Ubuntu giving me crap

[bug]

And where did I state that xf86 was updated? I didnt because it isnt. Intel packages that driver with a bunch of other stuff that actually makes a difference. The main reason people are dropping xf86 drivers is because they are switching to Wayland on which xf86 WONT WORK.

Stop. Please, just stop.

Distributions are moving away from the intel driver because it's old and unmaintained, Wayland has nothing to do with it. Please note that distros that drop xf86-video-intel are switching to xf86-video-modesetting, so clearly this move has nothing to do with the migration to Wayland.
See: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
and http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Xorg-Intel-DDX-Switch

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Stop. Please, just stop.

Distributions are moving away from the intel driver because it's old and unmaintained, Wayland has nothing to do with it. Please note that distros that drop xf86-video-intel are switching to xf86-video-modesetting, so clearly this move has nothing to do with the migration to Wayland.
See: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
and http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Xorg-Intel-DDX-Switch

"basically Intel hasn't been investing many resources at all into this X.Org driver." I wonder why......Wayland. Ubuntu is switching to Mir. Xserver uses xf86. the signs are all there.

https://01.org/linuxgraphics/community/wayland

 

[Aquinus]

Idk, I've tried to keep track of the development for the better part of 2016 and it's still not clear to me which driver you need for which functionality and for which card. Not to mention that after all the turmoil, their OpenGL performance is right where it was before (i.e. in the gutter).
Regardless, my comment was aimed at the guy who implied that by switching to AMD you get everything out-of-the-box.

Sure. I've heard that closed source nVidia drivers are actually pretty good with respect to performance and stability.

As for drivers, basically anything GCN 1.0 or earlier should be using radeon, AMDGPU (kernel driver alone ootb,) is good for GCN 1.2 cards. AMDGPU-Pro will install on GCN 1.1 cards but, it's not perfect. On the other hand, I do feel (anecdotal evidence warning,) that AMDGPU-Pro is smoother and possibly more performant than the radeon driver to be honest. I honestly think that AMD should put even more effort into AMDGPU because, if there are other people like me who are super unhappy with the issues Windows 10 is causing thanks to being a perpetual beta version whether you like it or not, better support in Linux might help people switch.

In reality, people don't want to fight with their computer or their OS. If I could start Ubuntu and have good support OOTB, I would be pretty happy and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

I am pretty satisfied with Fedora 25. I have not had any issues so far running under Wayland instead of XServer.

 

[bug]

Sure. I've heard that closed source nVidia drivers are actually pretty good with respect to performance and stability.

Performance is basically on par with Windows (since it's really the same driver). But what makes me come back is day 1 support for newer kernels and X servers. AMD has fixed these last two issues, now they have to fix performance and enable all features in AMDGPU (non-Pro) and I may start to look towards the red camp again. I actually considered a 480 when I upgraded last year, but when I looked at the driver situation, I got a headache instead.

As for drivers, basically anything GCN 1.0 or earlier should be using radeon, AMDGPU (kernel driver alone ootb,) is good for GCN 1.2 cards. AMDGPU-Pro will install on GCN 1.1 cards but, it's not perfect. On the other hand, I do feel (anecdotal evidence warning,) that AMDGPU-Pro is smoother and possibly more performant than the radeon driver to be honest. I honestly think that AMD should put even more effort into AMDGPU because, if there are other people like me who are super unhappy with the issues Windows 10 is causing thanks to being a perpetual beta version whether you like it or not, better support in Linux might help people switch.

AMDGPU is where all the efforts are concentrated, but it seems it still moves at a really slow pace.

In reality, people don't want to fight with their computer or their OS. If I could start Ubuntu and have good support OOTB, I would be pretty happy and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.

Hear, hear.

 

[RadFX]

Hi guys,
I was begining to fall in love ubuntu until I started gaming on it(which I had decided not to do).
Now, came in the driver problems, nouvelle(if i got the spellings right) or the nvidia one. Despite of choosing the nvidia one, the game gave me trouble(The forest).

Now, I decided to download and manually install the driver, then I can to discover that you need to blacklist the nouvelle driver and lots of other BS. I then proceeded to do so, during which ubuntu gave up on me and stopped booting.
Tried repairing Grub using terminal and Boot repair but no luck.

Tried to reinstall, got a input/output error, tried to do a fresh install, the same error.
From the past 2 weeks I've been using the live usb for using my computer.

I posted the entire thing detailed on the ubuntu forum, but guess nobody could help me... :/
So here I am back on my favorite forum
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2347729

This may not be the best solution but the last time I had that problem I had to re-install Windows and let it fix the filesystem. Then I was able to re-install Linux after.

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

This may not be the best solution but the last time I had that problem I had to re-install Windows and let it fix the filesystem. Then I was able to re-install Linux after.

How would Windows "fix" an EXT4 or BTRFS filesystem?

 

[bug]

How would Windows "fix" an EXT4 or BTRFS filesystem?

Windows has the tendency to mess any bootloader that you may have previously installed. That's why you install Windows first and Linux afterwards. But I don't think this solution fixes anything in this case.

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Windows has the tendency to mess any bootloader that you may have previously installed. That's why you install Windows first and Linux afterwards. But I don't think this solution fixes anything in this case.

you can also boot from a live disc and reinstall/configure GRUB or LILO. you could also just run Windows in a VM with PCI passthrough.

 

[Harry9001]

you can also boot from a live disc and reinstall/configure GRUB or LILO. you could also just run Windows in a VM with PCI passthrough.

Tried the live disc, but lol, today after like 2 weeks of using it as my primary OS...it died on me, my USB was no longer considered as bootable by the bios.

I just ordered a new SSD, gonna install windows on it and manually remove Ubuntu system files from the HDD.

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Tried the live disc, but lol, today after like 2 weeks of using it as my primary OS...it died on me, my USB was no longer considered as bootable by the bios.

I just ordered a new SSD, gonna install windows on it and manually remove Ubuntu system files from the HDD.

pity. the BIOS failed you not the OS.

 

[Harry9001]

pity. the BIOS failed you not the OS.

Whatever maybe the reason, I'm done with ubuntu... But I do thank it, I learnt terminal

Gonna go back to windows, with this decision of mine my family would surely be happy(they found ubuntu hard to use)

Anyways, thanks guys

 

[bug]

Whatever maybe the reason, I'm done with ubuntu... But I do thank it, I learnt terminal

I can guarantee you haven't. You've merely scratched the surface.
But you did the right thing in the end. If installing Ubuntu was so much trouble, Linux is definitely not your cup of tea. Kudos to you for trying and looking at alternative OSes though