Intel i7 7700K stagnate, but getting 5Ghz............

[Athlon2K15]

Have the Maximus IX Hero on the way from Asus, will be interesting to see if i get same results.

 

[trt740]

You will definitely like the board it's very cool. I just had a lot of trouble with the voltage and the software. Heck now that I've been away from it for a few days, I'm half tempted to buy another one and give it a try. Who knows maybe I just had a bad board. Make sure you use CPU installation tool that Asus gives you it's pretty cool and it protects the pins on the motherboard, Plus it makes your cooler fit tighter on the CPU.

 

[sneekypeet]

I have cleaned the thread. Stay on topic and stop with the personal bs, thanks.

 

[FireFox]

It's pointless to upgrade from 6700K to a 7700K but i have ordered it today

 

[Kursah]

Well here's to hoping you get that golden sample that reaches 5.2!

 

[AndrewWyb]

I personally love the 7700K I recently bought. I upgraded from the still-capable 3770K and it's a good 50%+ increase in performance. I also paired it with the IX Hero, and I'm 100% stable @ 5.0 GHZ running 1.3V, and staying around 28C while idle and 65C @ 100% load. I haven't tried upping the voltage to see if I can hit 5.1 or 5.2, but I'm a little nervous to do so because my rig is running so perfectly right now and I don't wanna mess with the performance I've already got, or heavily degrade the CPU for only a 1 or 2% performance increase. I also upgraded my SLI GTX 670's to a Zotac ArcticStorm GTX 1080 and I'm dominating (#1 in both baby!) in the most recent Unigine Valley and Heaven benchmark rank threads in the TPU graphics forum, easily beating out users with the same GPU and similar overclocks, but paired with high-end x99 CPU like the uber expensive i7 6950x. For $330, it's an amazing deal and a quality processor. Plus it has the best integrated graphics out of any CPU on the market, which can't be anything BUT a positive!

 

[Mussels]

I personally love the 7700K I have. I upgraded from a 3770K and it's a good 50%+ increase in performance. I also paired it with the IX Hero, and I'm 100% stable @ 5.0 GHZ running 1.3V, and staying around 28C while idle and 65C @ 100% load. I haven't tried upping the voltage to see if I can hit 5.1 or 5.2, but I'm a little nervous to do so because my rig is running so perfectly right now and I don't wanna mess with it . I also upgraded my SLI 670's to a Zotac ArcticStorm GTX 1080 and I'm dominating (#1 ranks baby!) in both the most recent Unigine Valley and Heaven benchmark threads in the TPU graphics forum, easily beating out users with the same GPU and overclocks, but paired the uber expensive i7 6950x. For $330, it's an amazing deal and a quality processor. Plus it has decent integrated graphics which is always a plus!

serious question, what ram did you have on your 3770k? i noticed a huge boost with 2400mhz DDR3, and i'm beating my skylake secondary/friends skylake 6600k in every bench i can throw at it

 

[AndrewWyb]

I was running G.Skill Ripjawz Z 1866 Mhz DDR3 RAM w/ my 3770K, and with my 7700K I'm running G.Skill Ripjawz V 3000 Mhz (OC'd to just under 3200 Mhz) DDR4 RAM. I've also noticed a huge improvement, but since I moved to Z270 and upgraded the CPU, GPU, Mobo, & RAM all in one go, I can't tell exactly how much the upgraded RAM is contributing to the whole equation

 

[EarthDog]

Not much.

 

[Mussels]

I was running G.Skill Ripjawz Z 1866 Mhz DDR3 RAM w/ my 3770K, and with my 7700K I'm running G.Skill Ripjawz V 3000 Mhz (OC'd to just under 3200 Mhz) DDR4 RAM. I've also noticed a huge improvement, but since I moved to Z270 and upgraded the CPU, GPU, Mobo, & RAM all in one go, I can't tell exactly how much the upgraded RAM is contributing to the whole equation

that exlains it, once OC'd past 4GHz i saw a large difference in game FPS going from 1600 to 2400 - 1866 wouldnt have been much different.

I feel like intel CPU's have been very stagnant, with ram speeds being the real difference between generations.

 

[AndrewWyb]

I definitely agree they've been stagnant. Intel hasn't needed to do much beyond incremental upgrades to keep consumers buying, ever since AMD stopped realistically competing with Intel's higher-end CPU's (I truly miss the Athlon days of my childhood..), all in the name of profits. There will always be a segment of consumers that will buy the latest and greatest regardless of the actual performance vs. value, just so they can swing a mightier E-dong (me being one of those people occasionally ). Honestly, if I owned a CPU even slightly better than the 3770K (like the 4770K), I would have waited another year or even two before upgrading. But I felt at the price point and performance gain I would receive, not to mention I can still sell my 3770K for ~$230 and can upgrade to the newer Z270 platform w/ Kaby Lake, really made it a no-brainer for me.

I do feel the additional RAM speeds don't have as much impact as upgrading CPU speeds though, but that's just from me reading a lot other peoples thoughts and opinions, not from any real experience or benchmarking of my own to back it up.

 

[EarthDog]

Ram speeds matter on such few titles, that really isn't it... look up some testing on it..

http://techbuyersguru.com/gaming-ddr4-memory-2133-vs-26663200mhz-8gb-vs-16gb?page=1

 

[FYFI13]

Lol, ram speeds matter on such few titles, that really isn't it... look up some testing on it..

Based on what i play, Arma 3 is the only game that actually benefits from overclocking RAM. Every other game bench results are within margin of error.

 

[FireFox]

The thing is, 7700K is a boring CPU

Uhmmm.

That's the same thing everybody that doesn't own a 7700K says

 

[Mussels]

Ram speeds matter on such few titles, that really isn't it... look up some testing on it..

Based on what i play, Arma 3 is the only game that actually benefits from overclocking RAM. Every other game bench results are within margin of error.

you need to go deeper (this is about OC'd systems such as K chips with higher ram speed - not generic testing at stock clocks)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k

 

[EarthDog]

You will also note, my link was 4.4ghz 5820k and 6700k.

Perhaps it matters more on ddr3?

Here is ddr3 testing...http://techbuyersguru.com/does-ram-speed-matter-ddr3-1600-vs-1866-2133-and-2400-games?page=1

Shows about nothing in those titles, no?? That's a 4.5 ghz 4770k and 970, btw.

Maybe it's on a 6 year old cpu (2500k) with emerging ddr3 (1600-2133) speeds using a Titan X from 2015 @ 1080p skews Rich's results in the video... who has that setup? Lol...

 

[TheHunter]

it only shows so gpu is not the bottleneck like by your example with 970gtx..

 

[RejZoR]

Uhmmm.

That's the same thing everybody that doesn't own a 7700K says

My 12 threads at 4.5 GHz say otherwise... XD

 

[FireFox]

My 12 threads at 4.5 GHz say otherwise... XD

The 4.5GHz thing it's kinda boring for meI guess it's time to change my profile pic.

 

[EarthDog]

it only shows so gpu is not the bottleneck like by your example with 970gtx..

I suppose ok to prove a point with an unrealistic situation to make said point true. It's like testing cpu differences in games at 800x600 res... I mean I understand this puts more on the cpu, but at the end of the day, nobody plays that way. So perhaps with a 2500k (2011) and titan x(2015), memory shows some improvements in that situation. But if you have a well apportioned pc, you are going to find negligible at best gains.

 

[Jetster]

Its still the fastest 4 core processor even if its an incremental advantage over last gen. Less power required, Jesus what do you want? Okay it could be a little more exciting

 

[thesmokingman]

I personally love the 7700K I recently bought. I upgraded from the still-capable 3770K and it's a good 50%+ increase in performance.

That's magical for a cpu that brings hardly any IPC increase.

 

[AndrewWyb]

That's magical for a cpu that brings hardly any IPC increase.

Ok, maybe I embellished a bit on the "50%+" but I do see quite an improvement over the 3770k in all areas, especially my PCMark 7 benchmarks. But as I said earlier, It's hard to really judge exactly my improvements with regards to each component since I upgraded everything in one go, but I do think it's telling that owners of the i7 7700K are getting high benchmark scores in all charts I'm seeing (I took the top spot from an i7 6950x with same GPU https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores-part-2.222125/). Overall I'm just very happy with the performance, regardless of how similar it is on paper to past gen CPU's.

 

[thesmokingman]

Ok, maybe I embellished a bit on the "50%+" but I do see quite an improvement over the 3770k in all areas, especially my PCMark 7 benchmarks. But as I said earlier, It's hard to really judge exactly my improvements with regards to each component since I upgraded everything in one go, but I do think it's telling that owners of the i7 7700K are getting high benchmark scores in all charts I'm seeing (I took the top spot from an i7 6950x with same GPU https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores-part-2.222125/). Overall I'm just very happy with the performance, regardless of how similar it is on paper to past gen CPU's.

That has more to do with your gpu overclock than your cpu.

For ex. Overclocked 7700K at 5.3ghz vs 6700K at 4.7ghz... does not do much to gpu scores.

www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11138351/fs/11579546

 

[AndrewWyb]

Of course the GPU is the main factor being tested here and makes the most difference in benchmark scores, it is a graphics benchmark after all. I wasn't just talking about that benchmark, it's showing up in PCMark 7 as well. Either way, it's a great CPU at a great price. I don't understand all the hate the 7700K gets honestly. If they sold it a higher price, I'd understand. But it's literally the exact same price as the 6700K, so what's the problem?