AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Leaked Benchmarks Analyzed, Faster Than Intel’s Fastest 6 Core

[FYFI13]

Why wouldn't they? To assess stock performance perhaps?..

With all those "leaks" they're trying to show how good Ryzen is and I'm almost confident that XFR was on. I'd better be wrong though.

 

[valyamd]

At 3.7GHz i get 159 points and what makes you think that Ryzen 1600X had disabled XFR? Why would anyone do that?

What if i put it this way: Ryzen single core performance is lower than i5 6500 (3.6GHz)? If those leaks are correct, overclocked i5 7600k will be running circles around all Ryzens in most ging benchmarks. You seem to completely ignore importance of single thread performance in gaming.

Edit: just now i noticed who's calling me a fanboy: a guy with a nickname "valyamd" and with 150 AMD logos across his TPU profile

r5 performance is about the same as i7 6800 6 core and you want to say i7 6800 is not good for gaming

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

8 days and we'll have the benchmarks , I am done trying to make estimations. Not taking any leaks seriously anymore, I am a gamer and I am really interested in the ipc if it's good i will buy the thing

 

[NdMk2o1o]

With all those "leaks" they're trying to show how good Ryzen is and I'm almost confident that XFR was on. I'd better be wrong though.

I'll just leave this here again...

Follow-up for this image:

Alva Jonatan: "LOL, to be perfectly clear, we're all surprised to see the Cinebench scores, and that's at default. Never-before-seen performance at that price range indeed "

 

[FYFI13]

r5 performance is about the same as i7 6800 6 core and you want to say i7 6800 is not good for gaming

I don't give a thing how it compares to i7 6800 or any other CPU that was designed for other things than gaming. People don't normally buy i7 6800 jusr for gaming as sone cheaper CPU's perform better and cost far less.
I want better single thread performance than my 3 year old processor so i can have better framerates in Arma 3.

 

[EarthDog]

I'll just leave this here again...

What does that show?? They question if he used LN2 there. Did I miss ANY mention of XFR? If so, apologies.

 

[valyamd]

r5 performance is about the same as i7 6800 6 core and you want to say i7 6800 is not good for gaming

 

[valyamd]

answer to this about single core performance is so inportanf for games i don"t see the diference in favor of 6700k

 

[NdMk2o1o]

What does that show?? They question if he used LN2 there. Did I miss ANY mention of XFR? If so, apologies.

He states that's at default, I'm assuming he's talking about the r5 .... But I don't mind spelling it out for you

 

[EarthDog]

So, you are willing to spend more for the same gaming performance and more cores most don't use. I can see the logic in that...

 

[FYFI13]

What does that show?? They question if he used LN2 there. Did I miss ANY mention of XFR? If so, apologies.

On top of that, on Ryzen 1600X XFR will be on by default so...

 

[EarthDog]

He states that's at default, I'm assuming he's talking about the r5 .... But I don't mind spelling it out for you

Sorry, I missed it... I didn't see a word there in the picture describing it as default, just what someone quoted with text... but I missed it in the cellphone screenshot...

Im going to get some caffeine in me.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

So, you are willing to spend more for the same gaming performance and more cores most don't use. I can see the logic in that...

You only game on your rig do you? Cool story

 

[valyamd]

[QUOTE ="EarthDog, post: 3604394, member: 79836"]So, you are willing to spend more for the same gaming performance and more cores most don't use. I can see the logic in that... [/QUOTE] not al peoaple just play games and what is whrong on buy a 6 core 12 thread cpu for 260 dolars and have a reserve of power in conparation with 4 cores

 

[EarthDog]

Im sorry... what???????????? I think autocorrect wasn't on or won that battle with your post there valy.... Oy.

But why would you buy a hex/octo core when playing games? The subject here is gaming.. OF COURSE IT MAKES SENSE TO GET MORE CORES IF YOU CAN USE THEM...... that was never in question here.

You only game on your rig do you? Cool story

See above (in all caps).

Point is, very few people can use more than 4c-8t which is what most would buy these days for a gaming machine (unless budget didn't allow and you were forced to go 4c/4t). Why would I buy any more cores than were needed for the next few years I would be using my machine? We on the same page now? See where I am coming from? It depends on your usage model!!!

But people are all boners up about the multi-core performance, but the reality is, very few can use more than 4c-8t in the first place.

 

[okidna]

What does that show?? They question if he used LN2 there. Did I miss ANY mention of XFR? If so, apologies.

About the Indonesian overclockers :
- They didn't use LN2, they use old Phenom II stock cooler (the clip mounting model still works with AM4 mounting system).
- One of them mentioned that Ryzen doesn't generate much heat at stock clock.
- XFR was enabled.
- They tested the Ryzen 7 model (don't know which SKU), so not the one with Cinebench screenshot leak and as far as I know no leaked benchmark screenshots coming from them.

Source? I know the testers personally.

 

[valyamd]

So, you are willing to spend more for the same gaming performance and more cores most don't use. I can see the logic in that...

its about ryzen 6 core vs i76800k ryzen iti about the same performance with i76800k and this is a comparation of i7 6700k and 6800k to show you that a 6 core ii able to play games exact like a 4 core with higer single core performance you get the point now and ryzen is about 260 dolars and perform like a i76800 k

 

[EarthDog]

I don't think a soul here said anything about a 6 core not being able to play games like a 4 core... WTH are you talking about????

I mean, this is what FY13 said........

I don't give a thing how it compares to i7 6800 or any other CPU that was designed for other things than gaming. People don't normally buy i7 6800 jusr for gaming as sone cheaper CPU's perform better and cost far less.

I don't see where he said it was slower or wouldn't work. Just that why would anyone spend more than they need to for gaming? True, most use their PC for other than gaming, but VERY few can use all cores and threads available.

About the Indonesian overclockers :
- They didn't use LN2, they use old Phenom II stock cooler (the clip mounting model still works with AM4 mounting system).
- One of them mentioned that Ryzen doesn't generate much heat at stock clock.
- XFR was enabled.
- They tested the Ryzen 7 model (don't know which SKU), so not the one with Cinebench screenshot leak and as far as I know no leaked benchmark screenshots coming from them.

Source? I know the testers personally.

Grain of salt taken...

Thanks!

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Im sorry... what???????????? I think autocorrect wasn't on or won that battle with your post there valy.... Oy.

But why would you buy a hex/octo core when playing games? The subject here is gaming.. OF COURSE IT MAKES SENSE TO GET MORE CORES IF YOU CAN USE THEM...... that was never in question here.
See above (in all caps).

Point is, very few people can use more than 4c-8t which is what most would buy these days for a gaming machine (unless budget didn't allow and you were forced to go 4c/4t). Why would I buy any more cores than were needed for the next few years I would be using my machine? We on the same page now? See where I am coming from? It depends on your usage model!!!

But people are all boners up about the multi-core performance, but the reality is, very few can use more than 4c-8t in the first place.

Who cares if they can or can't use them, the will buy them as was evident with bulldozer's supposed 8 cores...

 

[EarthDog]

Who cares if they can or can't use them, the will buy them as was evident with bulldozer's supposed 8 cores...

...that is the crux of the situation here bud. FY13 and I seem to agree making a purchase like that is a waste of coin if you cant use it.

The REAL comparison to me is IPC and quad w/HT vs quad with HT. That will be where the real winners are. Not those that overbuy because its cheaper.

EDIT: I mean, I am looking at it like, AMD's 4c/8t CPU is going to cost WAY less than Intel's 4c/8t and perform slightly slower clock for clock... I think its great they can throw up a 6/8c CPU against it, but, that really doesn't give many people much over ANY 4c-8t CPU UNLESS THEY ARE ACTUALLY USING MORE THAN 8t... which not many people can.

So, again, WOW!! 8c/16t for the same cost as 4c/8t!!! Or go 4c/8t and save the money.

 

[valyamd]

...that is the crux of the situation here bud. FY13 and I seem to agree making a purchase like that is a waste of coin if you cant use it.

The REAL comparison to me is IPC and quad w/HT vs quad with HT. That will be where the real winners are. Not those that overbuy because its cheaper.

EDIT: I mean, I am looking at it like, AMD's 4c/8t CPU is going to cost WAY less than Intel's 4c/8t and perform slightly slower clock for clock... I think its great they can throw up a 6/8c CPU against it, but, that really doesn't give many people much over ANY 4c-8t CPU UNLESS THEY ARE ACTUALLY USING MORE THAN 8t... which not many people can.

So, again, WOW!! 8c/16t for the same cost as 4c/8t!!! Or go 4c/8t and save the money.

A 8 core 16 thread for 390 dollar is bad and perform like i7 6900 for 1000 dolar ?

 

[EarthDog]

You aren't getting it...

...but to answer your question, HELL NO THAT ISN'T BAD!!!

Why, if I DID NOT NEED more than 4c/8t would I get a $390 CPU? Why not get the $199 4c/8t CPU?!!!!! Why are we comparing 16t to 8t simply because of price when the reality is 95% of people won't use more than the 8t on AMD/Intel anyway?!!!!

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I think you're reading too much into it tbh, besides not everyone has a 4790 or better, lots of people myself included are running older platforms and the upgrade will be worth it, but I'll be going 6 core not 8 as they're a bit rich for my blood.

 

[valyamd]

A 8 core 16 thread for 390 dollar is bad and perform like i7 6900 for 1000 dolar ?

what can you do with a i7 7700k and can"t do with a r7 8core 16 thread for the same price

 

[EarthDog]

I think you're reading too much into it tbh, besides not everyone has a 4790 or better, lots of people myself included are running older platforms and the upgrade will be worth it, but I'll be going 6 core not 8 as they're a bit rich for my blood.

Maybe.

Just a bit tired of the "zOMG 16t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deal of a lifetime!!!" when the reality is its not helping most people (more cores). I see allure to more cores from an e-peen standpoint or if there is an actual need, just not from my wallet standpoint...without the need.

what can you do with a i7 7700k and can"t do with a r7 8core 16 thread for the same price

You can do the same thing. Again, for the I don;t know how many times.. my point is if you don't need it why are you buying $390 worth of processor? Buy the $200 processor with the same performance. Or again, if you just want to add a prosthetic to the e-peen.

Maybe I am just that cheap and don't purchase more than I need during the lifetime of my CPU??? ANd for those that are looking at my system specs and laughing, remember I am am a reviewer so the 6950x was free. Being an ES, I can't sell it for something less. In fact, I run it without HT so I can get more clocks out of it and lower temps.