Should I buy a gtx 1060 or r9 fury?

[Yukikaze]

Having been in the same boat deciding, and having went with the Sapphire Nitro, I'm gonna vote for the R9 Fury again.

EDIT: If you have not purchased from Jet.com before, they have a promo code for new customers for 15% off their first three orders until April 1st. That makes their 265.91$ Fury into a 226$ card.

 

[stoggs1]

Having been in the same boat deciding, and having went with the Sapphire Nitro, I'm gonna vote for the R9 Fury again.

EDIT: If you have not purchased from Jet.com before, they have a promo code for new customers for 15% off their first three orders until April 1st. That makes their 265.91$ Fury into a 226$ card.

O nice that would make it cheaper than the 1060.

 

[eidairaman1]

as I said before You will likely go 3-5 Generations after this current Gen before needing a upgrade again with the Fury series

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Change to 4K monitor or something that runs at 144 Hz and the Fury already isn't fast enough in more recent AAA titles. The generation of Fury to the generation of RX 480 by itself is a massive jump (28nm to 14/16nm).

The $250~ price for Fury is about what it is worth in terms of performance.

 

[stoggs1]

as I said before You will likely go 3-5 Generations after this current Gen before needing a upgrade again with the Fury series

Ok do u think a dual xeon 3690 would bottleneck that card? From my research one of those cpus can almost drive a 1080 with only a small bottleneck so I would imagine 2 of them shouldnt bottleneck at all and the fury isnt as fast as the 1080.

Now if amd releases an awesome budget ryzen set up I would go with that instead.

It wont for about 2 weeks till i start buying parts.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I don't think the processors would be a problem. If you install ECC memory in it, that will incur an access penalty that will drop framerate a bit.

 

[eidairaman1]

Ok do u think a dual xeon 3690 would bottleneck that card? From my research one of those cpus can almost drive a 1080 with only a small bottleneck so I would imagine 2 of them shouldnt bottleneck at all and the fury isnt as fast as the 1080.

Now if amd releases an awesome budget ryzen set up I would go with that instead.

It wont for about 2 weeks till i start buying parts.

the xeon shouldn't, my Rig can drive those cards fine even.

I'd say before making the jump see how ryzen unfolds for you.

 

[Vario]

Ok do u think a dual xeon 3690 would bottleneck that card? From my research one of those cpus can almost drive a 1080 with only a small bottleneck so I would imagine 2 of them shouldnt bottleneck at all and the fury isnt as fast as the 1080.

Now if amd releases an awesome budget ryzen set up I would go with that instead.

It wont for about 2 weeks till i start buying parts.

Why do you need 12 (6x2) cores? If you want 6 cores on the cheap get a 3930k for $129 on ebay.

edit or Xeon E5 models.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1591590/xeon-hacking-and-overclocking-x79-x99-beyond-x58

 

[stoggs1]

The xeons would offer excellent price per performance, and I want to see what ryzen has to offer, have they announced prices for there mid range chips and motherboards yet? I havent found any pricing online yet.

And would this board support support the fury or 1060? https://www.theitmart.com/category/...-motherboard?gclid=CjwKEAiAxKrFBRDm25f60Oegtw

It says it has a pcie 16x slot but only runs x8 from the spec sheet i found for that board.

Nvm i just googled ryzens prices, there entry level quad cores start at 130 bucks. I guess i will have to wait for benchmarks to see how they perform.

 

[stoggs1]

Why do you need 12 (6x2) cores? If you want 6 cores on the cheap get a 3930k for $129 on ebay.

edit or Xeon E5 models.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1591590/xeon-hacking-and-overclocking-x79-x99-beyond-x58

Holy crap dude thanks, i might go with that chip instead since lga 1150 motherboards are cheaper than 1366's and to my understanding thats still a beastly cpu and a damn good overclocker.

 

[wurschti]

Holy crap dude thanks, i might go with that chip instead since lga 1150 motherboards are cheaper than 1366's and to my understanding thats still a beastly cpu and a damn good overclocker.

That is unfortunately X series chipset, X79 or X99. Xeons on 1150 cannot be OCed. Also as far as I'm concerned X79 mobos are selling for high prices bcs the CPUs are dirt cheap. If you wanna game tho, you want more GHz and 4cores. You could go with 1366 and lots of core, you could also achieve good clocks, but their IPC is a little behind. If you want used stuff, consider getting your hands on i7-2600k or i7-3770k and a P67, Z68 or Z77 mobo. You can OC these chips at 4,5GHz no problem with cheap 30-40$ coolers. That would make it ideal for gaming and much more. 16GB RAM is the max you want. 32 or more only if you are doing video editing and heavy stuff. An SSD is crucial and of course the case is not a fixed option. You can go with the design you like.

On the other hand waiting for Ryzen would be a very good option. With CPU and mobo combos starting from 200$ you could get your hands on newer, better hardware, more future proof and less power consumption. So that would be a very great option indeed. In the end, it's all up to you and your wallet

 

[Vario]

That is unfortunately X series chipset, X79 or X99. Xeons on 1150 cannot be OCed. Also as far as I'm concerned X79 mobos are selling for high prices bcs the CPUs are dirt cheap. If you wanna game tho, you want more GHz and 4cores. You could go with 1366 and lots of core, you could also achieve good clocks, but their IPC is a little behind. If you want used stuff, consider getting your hands on i7-2600k or i7-3770k and a P67, Z68 or Z77 mobo. You can OC these chips at 4,5GHz no problem with cheap 30-40$ coolers. That would make it ideal for gaming and much more. 16GB RAM is the max you want. 32 or more only if you are doing video editing and heavy stuff. An SSD is crucial and of course the case is not a fixed option. You can go with the design you like.

On the other hand waiting for Ryzen would be a very good option. With CPU and mobo combos starting from 200$ you could get your hands on newer, better hardware, more future proof and less power consumption. So that would be a very great option indeed. In the end, it's all up to you and your wallet

X58 motherboards are really expensive too. But yes, don't buy 1150! for E5 v1 and v2 xeon, these are socket 2011, chipset x79.
Price effective option might be buying a i5 2500K, $80, i5-3550 $85, 3570k for $105, or i7 2600k for $120; and for mobo: z77 $80-100, z68 $50-100, p67 $30-70, socket 1155 for these.

Downsides: 4 cores, no PCI-E 3.0 with sandy (2xxx models). Probably doesn't matter for the next 2-3 years then it might hold you back. Old motherboards may have issues too. You might also be able to take someone's whole setup, ram, cpu, mobo, heatsink, if you hunt around, maybe aim for $250 or less. Example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-P8Z68-...163664?hash=item3f75cac910:g:XlcAAOSwtfhYpfP9

 

[stoggs1]

I found a few Xeon e5 1620s on eBay around 50 to 60 bucks. There quad cores with hyper threading with 3.6 Ghz base and 3.8 ghz boost there lga 1150 and I found this msi board
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?...9GOPbs-_Bk8LRBVEGTbvgaAgSq8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

But it doesn't say if it supports Xeons. And that bundle deal looks pretty good. Thanks for the help guys.

And how long would that 2nd gen i5 last me before I would need to get a new set up?

 

[Kanan]

And how long would that 2nd gen i5 last me before I would need to get a new set up?

If you use the same GPU (Fury), 2 years maybe. I would rather go for an i7 now, 4-6 cores. LGA2011 / X79 + i7 3930K, for example, is great if you're able to find a good mainboard for not too many bucks.

 

[wurschti]

I found a few Xeon e5 1620s on eBay around 50 to 60 bucks. There quad cores with hyper threading with 3.6 Ghz base and 3.8 ghz boost there lga 1150 and I found this msi board
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?...9GOPbs-_Bk8LRBVEGTbvgaAgSq8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

But it doesn't say if it supports Xeons. And that bundle deal looks pretty good. Thanks for the help guys.

And how long would that 2nd gen i5 last me before I would need to get a new set up?

Xeon E5-1620 is a LGA 2011 CPU, can function only with LGA 2011 with X79 consumer chipsets. You cannot put that CPU on the 1150 mobo you found.

 

[stoggs1]

I really dontwan

If you use the same GPU (Fury), 2 years maybe. I would rather go for an i7 now, 4-6 cores. LGA2011 / X79 + i7 3930K, for example, is great if you're able to find a good mainboard for not too many bucks.

My budget is 700 dollars and its pretty firm, if i can fit that cpu in my budget il go for thay and the fury and i believe i should be good for a while, either that or a xeon set up.

I really dont want amd unless ryzen comes out a really good budget build

 

[EarthDog]

Ryzen seems like it will easily cost less than intel...assuming mobos aND ram the same, that leaves the cpu which we knlw, from rumors, are pretty cheap comparitively.

 

[Vario]

https://ark.intel.com/products/6462...-E5-1620-10M-Cache-3_60-GHz-0_0-GTs-Intel-QPI
socket 2011, see compatibility under package specifications on this page.

 

[stoggs1]

Ok guys, I have decided to go with a dual xeon build with two xeon x5687s, since there quad core chips with hyperthreading that have a base clock of 3.6 ghz and can turbo up to 3.9 ghz and I can buy two of them for 140 dollars plus I can stay in my budget and get everything I want.

This is the cheapest dual socket lga 1366 board I found http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/172489492675?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-117182-37290-0%2F2%3Fmtid%3D1588%26kwid%3D1%26crlp%3D164966280387_324272%26itemid%3D172489492675%26targetid%3D272013066120%26rpc%3D0.25%26rpc_upld_id%3D107625%26device%3Dm%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252Flike%252F172489492675%253Flpid%253D82%2526chn%253Dps%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9022858%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D714348682%26adgroupid%3D36536579279%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-272013066120%26gclid%3DCjwKEAiAirXFBRCQyvL279Tnx1ESJAB-G-QvzHH4CiJo8nrweCaMYmu9Myfvf4_chlTj333EWHvzNRoCC6Lw_wcB%26srcrot%3D711-117182-37290-0%26rvr_id%3D1172411822910&ul_noapp=true

Would that work a mid tower atx case and the fury or any other graphics card?

According to the specs sheet it has one pci e x16 slot but runs at 8x, and the form factor is atx, but i just want to make sure before i buy it.

 

[Kanan]

Ok guys, I have decided to go with a dual xeon build with two xeon x5687s, since there quad core chips with hyperthreading that have a base clock of 3.6 ghz and can turbo up to 3.9 ghz and I can buy two of them for 140 dollars plus I can stay in my budget and get everything I want.

This is the cheapest dual socket lga 1366 board I found http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/172489492675?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-117182-37290-0%2F2%3Fmtid%3D1588%26kwid%3D1%26crlp%3D164966280387_324272%26itemid%3D172489492675%26targetid%3D272013066120%26rpc%3D0.25%26rpc_upld_id%3D107625%26device%3Dm%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252Flike%252F172489492675%253Flpid%253D82%2526chn%253Dps%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9022858%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D714348682%26adgroupid%3D36536579279%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-272013066120%26gclid%3DCjwKEAiAirXFBRCQyvL279Tnx1ESJAB-G-QvzHH4CiJo8nrweCaMYmu9Myfvf4_chlTj333EWHvzNRoCC6Lw_wcB%26srcrot%3D711-117182-37290-0%26rvr_id%3D1172411822910&ul_noapp=true

Would that work a mid tower atx case and the fury or any other graphics card?

According to the specs sheet it has one pci e x16 slot but runs at 8x, and the form factor is atx, but i just want to make sure before i buy it.

If you plan to seriously game, it's not very smart to go with a old platform that will slow you down now and in the future. As I said, if you want used and many cores go for the LGA2011 stuff. Games use 4 cores mostly, some of them use 6-8 cores. But since those CPUs are pretty old and weak, you want proper utilization on 8 cores all the time, which simply isn't gonna happen in 98% of the games out there. What you want for gaming is 4-6 strong cores, LGA 2011 is able to deliver that.

 

[eidairaman1]

Do what you want dude...

 

[stoggs1]

If you plan to seriously game, it's not very smart to go with a old platform that will slow you down now and in the future. As I said, if you want used and many cores go for the LGA2011 stuff. Games use 4 cores mostly, some of them use 6-8 cores. But since those CPUs are pretty old and weak, you want proper utilization on 8 cores all the time, which simply isn't gonna happen in 98% of the games out there. What you want for gaming is 4-6 strong cores, LGA 2011 is able to deliver that.

Those cpus may be old but there not weak, there basically i7 980xs which still hold up well with modern gpu's and games and one of them will run circles around any pre ryzen amd cpu.

https://www.google.com/search?q=i7+...g0aXSAhUs64MKHdqtCk4Q_AUICCgC&biw=360&bih=560

View the first video in that search the i7 980 is very close to the 5820k in gaming, yes i know there both overclocked but still there pretty close. And ive found other videos where the xeon x 5000 series was able to drive modern high end gpus.

I have been researching different cpus for the past 6 weeks so I wouldn't buy something that sucks plus i have a budget i need to stay in and most lga 1150 builds will put me out of my budget unless i dont put a graphics card in.

 

[Kanan]

Do what you want dude...

That. You're not listening.

And Core architecture gen 1 is very old in my books, I consider my own stuff old, but pretty much at the edge right now. Sandy Bridge still rocks. That said, I wouldn't buy it now, I would go for something better.

Comparing the first gen Core CPUs to FX doesn't make them any better - they are still outdated compared to newer gens and using new games.

I didn't say you should go for the LGA1150, I was speaking about LGA2011 used. That's something else and way cheaper. Anyway, this is probably my last post, do what you want.

 

[stoggs1]

That. You're not listening.

And Core architecture gen 1 is very old in my books, I consider my own stuff old, but pretty much at the edge right now. Sandy Bridge still rocks. That said, I wouldn't buy it now, I would go for something better.


Comparing the first gen Core CPUs to FX doesn't make them any better - they are still outdated compared to newer gens and using new games.

I didn't say you should go for the LGA1150, I was speaking about LGA2011 used. That's something else and way cheaper. Anyway, this is probably my last post, do what you want.

Oh ok my bad, so would the i5 2500k handle a fury or 1060 better? I guess I wasnt fully understanding what you where saying, and if I kept that platform for a year or two whats the highest end cpu that would fit that board?

 

[Kanan]

Oh ok my bad, so would the i5 2500k handle a fury or 1060 better? I guess I wasnt fully understanding what you where saying, and if I kept that platform for a year or two whats the highest end cpu that would fit that board?

Yes it would. I would take a i7 2600/2700K overclock it to the max and rock any game with it. I think it would be good for another 2-3 years. That's LGA1155. If you go for LGA2011 and a 3930K (thats a 6 core), it would be nice for a even longer period than that. Kinda hard to estimate, but I'd say 3-4 years at least.