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Intel Announces Atom C3000 Line with up to 16-cores and Enterprise Level Features

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i dont care that much about TPU's writing, though it should make sure to keep words like 'some people' or 'certain cases' rather than using absolute terms

the users are going downhill though... & this thread is nothing compared to some others

even if 'everyone' is agreeing, they start mobbing on things like call of duty like complete elitist dicks
 
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I mean, Atom CPU's aren't all that bad if you know why they exist and what to use them for (obviously not for huge data crunching and playing Crysis). Had Atom N270, single core, 2 threads little fart back in the day. And it worked quite well for what it was meant in ACER Aspire One netbook. Had Atom Z3750 in tablet and now Atom X5 Z8300 in a netbook hybrid. It's reasonably fast little bugger with 4 cores even at that low clock.
 
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i dont care that much about TPU's writing

As a news writer, I couldn't disagree more about that, though my bias is evident here.

though it should make sure to keep words like 'some people' or 'certain cases' rather than using absolute terms

Excellent point for future articles. Obviously, not all Atom chips are awful (especially considering their use case) and not all people considered them bad, I was going with the mainstream stereotype but that needs to be indicated. Believe it or not, I'm a big opponent of letting writer bias seep into journalism, and when someone criticizes me for that exact thing, I take that criticism very seriously and listen to them, so thank you all for the feedback here and I will see to it that it is not falling on deaf ears.

We all make mistakes, what's important is that we learn from them, even little ones. :)

the users are going downhill though... & this thread is nothing compared to some others

even if 'everyone' is agreeing, they start mobbing on things like call of duty like complete elitist dicks

Slightly OT, but I will comment that I see this in the internet in general as of late, and actually less here than many places I frequent. But yes, it is an issue.
 
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i dont care that much about TPU's writing, though it should make sure to keep words like 'some people' or 'certain cases' rather than using absolute terms

the users are going downhill though... & this thread is nothing compared to some others

even if 'everyone' is agreeing, they start mobbing on things like call of duty like complete elitist dicks

pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttt. call of dooty... pfffft.

Seriously though... Atoms were responsible for the commercial failure of many devices. I mean does anyone remember the original Dell phablet answer to the ipad? no? what about HP? what about that sale when they were giving them away for $80?
 
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Seriously try to keep up ~ An Intel Atom C2000 bug is killing products from multiple manufacturers
Intel Atom chips have been dying for at least 18 months – only now is truth coming to light

If anything the Atom C2K bug should've had much more press coverage, but then again there are obvious benefits of being Intel :shadedshu:

What does that have to do with what lexluthermeister was saying? He wasn't saying that Atoms were God's gift to man, but that they're not as bad as people make them out to be (so long as you understand their purpose).
 
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What does that have to do with what lexluthermeister was saying? He wasn't saying that Atoms were God's gift to man, but that they're not as bad as people make them out to be (so long as you understand their purpose).
Except they've been even worst, surely such a mishap in enterprise arena is unheard of, though not the first time for Intel but such levels of hush hush implies something gone horribly wrong.
Kramer and Robbins were both tight-lipped about the details of the product failures allegedly caused by Intel's Atom chip-clock slip, saying only that the company's working “proactively” with customers, and doesn't expect it to cause a significant financial fallout.
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...Obviously, not all Atom chips are awful (especially considering their use case) and not all people considered them bad, I was going with the mainstream stereotype but that needs to be indicated
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Slightly OT, but I will comment that I see this in the internet in general as of late, and actually less here than many places I frequent. But yes, it is an issue.
so even with mainstream stereotypes, the focus should be on real numbers, such as how modern sites are js heavy & end up demanding a certain amount of single threaded performance... but at the same time, is a raspberry pi worse than the old atoms? do chromebooks & compute sticks use 'celerons' & other 'better than atom' cpus while still having passive or nearly passive cooling? maybe atom was ahead of its time, although i have used a via nano single core server without much trouble, not sure how it compares to atom

slightly OT, but there is a very personal (not idea-based) looking argument happening earlier in this thread out of something as futile as low end cpus

Atoms were responsible for the commercial failure of many devices. I mean does anyone remember the original Dell phablet answer to the ipad? no? what about HP? what about that sale when they were giving them away for $80?
a single chip is rarely responsible for the commercial failure of an entire device especially when it's about android, to put it another way, there are plenty of failures using the right snapdragons & successes using mediatek or rockchip

also i have access to a couple dell x86 tablets, including one that's known for being unusable & running out of ram, but if they just put 2gb instead of 1gb, it would be 'great' for its $200? price (64bit, 1920x1200)
 

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i dont care that much about TPU's writing, though it should make sure to keep words like 'some people' or 'certain cases' rather than using absolute terms

the users are going downhill though... & this thread is nothing compared to some others

even if 'everyone' is agreeing, they start mobbing on things like call of duty like complete elitist dicks

Most of what has been referred to has nothing to do with "TPU's Writing", people seem to get very confused between news articles posted in the news section BUT clearly sourced and linked to other sites (so not our words.... just simply news), and editorials where we write or comment based on facts/opinion/fud/speculation, most complaints funnily seem to be about sourced news which as I said are not our words, news is news, good, bad or ugly by it's nature it is designed to draw conclusion.

Once you start cherry picking news from other sources based on perceived odds of accuracy you in part are adding some bias so it's a no win. Could we be more selective..... quite possibly but in my experience you never keep everyone happy all of the time.
 
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If anything the Atom C2K bug should've had much more press coverage, but then again there are obvious benefits of being Intel :shadedshu:

I totally agree as this is the first time ive ever heard of this, I had no idea there was such a big problem with there C2000 Pocs. If this was a AMD issue it be all over the net.
 

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i've got a few atom products around the house, and its true the old ones are incredibly bad - but the modern ones are getting better. The 10" tablet i use as my server has a quad core atom, and its got a lot of power for what it is.
 
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