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Kursah

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Processor R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling
Memory TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s) Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s) Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
Power Supply EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light)
Mouse Logitech G502 | Logitech M330
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Core RGB | Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 | Windows 11 Home x64
Looks good!

Turbo works like this, 4.4GHz for 1 core, 4.3GHz for 2 cores, 4.2GHz for 3 cores, and 4.1GHz for 4 cores under default turbo rules. In your EFI/BIOS, you should have a setting to unlock or sync turbo frequencies. Keep in mind that Intel does this to meet their power consumption specs for OEM ratings which is why it works this way. There's some articles out there if you need more info, but really I think all you want to do is get your i7 operating the same on all cores and I don't blame you.

I have a Asus Z87-Pro, I'll try to look up the value to change when I get home...it'll allow all 4 cores to run at max turbo (stock is 4.4GHz). Your temps and power consumption will increase a little further, but its worth it IMHO.

Edit... I did a quick Google and found that it is the Asus Multicore Enhancement setting you need to enable if your board has it. I have attached a screenshot I found from that Google search for reference.

Nice work! :toast:
 

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System Name Main system
Processor Intel Core-i7 4790K @4.5
Motherboard Asus Z97-Pro Gamer
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 32 Gig (16 GigADATA XPG V2 DDR3 2400 + 16 Gig Geil Evo Veloce DDR3 1600 CL11)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 Gaming
Storage Western Digital Blue Cavier 500 and 1 Terabyte + 1 Terabyte Green Cavier + Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500G
Display(s) ASUS ML238 LED Monitor
Case Green Viper X3
Audio Device(s) Onboard-Realtek
Power Supply Green 700watt (Its a rebranded psu from highpower/kolink I guess)
Software Windows 10 /Ubuntu 16.04
Looks good!

Turbo works like this, 4.4GHz for 1 core, 4.3GHz for 2 cores, 4.2GHz for 3 cores, and 4.1GHz for 4 cores under default turbo rules. In your EFI/BIOS, you should have a setting to unlock or sync turbo frequencies. Keep in mind that Intel does this to meet their power consumption specs for OEM ratings which is why it works this way. There's some articles out there if you need more info, but really I think all you want to do is get your i7 operating the same on all cores and I don't blame you.

I have a Asus Z87-Pro, I'll try to look up the value to change when I get home...it'll allow all 4 cores to run at max turbo (stock is 4.4GHz). Your temps and power consumption will increase a little further, but its worth it IMHO.

Edit... I did a quick Google and found that it is the Asus Multicore Enhancement setting you need to enable if your board has it. I have attached a screenshot I found from that Google search for reference.

Nice work! :toast:
Thank you very much :)
I'm on it then :)
 

Kursah

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Processor R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling
Memory TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s) Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s) Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
Power Supply EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light)
Mouse Logitech G502 | Logitech M330
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Core RGB | Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 | Windows 11 Home x64
Keep us posted and good luck! :toast:
 
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System Name Main system
Processor Intel Core-i7 4790K @4.5
Motherboard Asus Z97-Pro Gamer
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 32 Gig (16 GigADATA XPG V2 DDR3 2400 + 16 Gig Geil Evo Veloce DDR3 1600 CL11)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 Gaming
Storage Western Digital Blue Cavier 500 and 1 Terabyte + 1 Terabyte Green Cavier + Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500G
Display(s) ASUS ML238 LED Monitor
Case Green Viper X3
Audio Device(s) Onboard-Realtek
Power Supply Green 700watt (Its a rebranded psu from highpower/kolink I guess)
Software Windows 10 /Ubuntu 16.04
Looks good!

Turbo works like this, 4.4GHz for 1 core, 4.3GHz for 2 cores, 4.2GHz for 3 cores, and 4.1GHz for 4 cores under default turbo rules. In your EFI/BIOS, you should have a setting to unlock or sync turbo frequencies. Keep in mind that Intel does this to meet their power consumption specs for OEM ratings which is why it works this way. There's some articles out there if you need more info, but really I think all you want to do is get your i7 operating the same on all cores and I don't blame you.

I have a Asus Z87-Pro, I'll try to look up the value to change when I get home...it'll allow all 4 cores to run at max turbo (stock is 4.4GHz). Your temps and power consumption will increase a little further, but its worth it IMHO.

Edit... I did a quick Google and found that it is the Asus Multicore Enhancement setting you need to enable if your board has it. I have attached a screenshot I found from that Google search for reference.

Nice work! :toast:
OK, I went to the BIOS, but couldn't find anything! it seems that feature is exclusive to the Z series and my mother board ( H Series) doesn't support it.
 

Kursah

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Processor R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling
Memory TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s) Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s) Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
Power Supply EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light)
Mouse Logitech G502 | Logitech M330
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Core RGB | Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 | Windows 11 Home x64
Sorry to hear that, but not all that surprising.

That's okay, really you probably won't notice unless it is the difference between a 20FPS game and 30FPS game, which isn't likely. Not setting it will keep your power consumption within spec, and your heat output down, so that'll be good come summertime anyways.

You can always keep an eye out for another Z87 or Z97 board. I've had this Z87 Pro since June 2013 and it still gets the job done without any issues. It's a full size ATX board though not sure if your case can house an ATX board or not or if it's worth it to you to replace the board. If you ever decide to overclock, I'd definitely go Z87 or Z97. Whichever you can get for a better deal, but make sure if you buy Z87, that it has the most recent BIOS/EFI update so you don't run into a bug where it might not boot with the 4790K Devils Canyon chip.
 
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Motherboard Asus Z97-Pro Gamer
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 32 Gig (16 GigADATA XPG V2 DDR3 2400 + 16 Gig Geil Evo Veloce DDR3 1600 CL11)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 Gaming
Storage Western Digital Blue Cavier 500 and 1 Terabyte + 1 Terabyte Green Cavier + Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500G
Display(s) ASUS ML238 LED Monitor
Case Green Viper X3
Audio Device(s) Onboard-Realtek
Power Supply Green 700watt (Its a rebranded psu from highpower/kolink I guess)
Software Windows 10 /Ubuntu 16.04
Sorry to hear that, but not all that surprising.

That's okay, really you probably won't notice unless it is the difference between a 20FPS game and 30FPS game, which isn't likely. Not setting it will keep your power consumption within spec, and your heat output down, so that'll be good come summertime anyways.

You can always keep an eye out for another Z87 or Z97 board. I've had this Z87 Pro since June 2013 and it still gets the job done without any issues. It's a full size ATX board though not sure if your case can house an ATX board or not or if it's worth it to you to replace the board. If you ever decide to overclock, I'd definitely go Z87 or Z97. Whichever you can get for a better deal, but make sure if you buy Z87, that it has the most recent BIOS/EFI update so you don't run into a bug where it might not boot with the 4790K Devils Canyon chip.
Thanks alot for everything . I really appreciate it :) ;)
 

Kursah

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Processor R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling
Memory TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s) Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s) Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
Power Supply EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light)
Mouse Logitech G502 | Logitech M330
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Core RGB | Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 | Windows 11 Home x64
No problems. :toast:
 
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