Which EVGA GTX 1070 / 1080 model to buy?

[sammy_dude]

Hi

I'm planning on upgrading my GPU "EVGA GTX 660" to "EVGA GTX 1070" or "EVGA GTX 1080".
I am really confused whether should I go with 1080? My pocket does allow this card but is it really worth investing if I only play in single monitor setup? Currently, I have Dell U 2412M (I will upgrade it to 29" widescreen after getting new GPU). 34" monitor in India is very overpriced but do not know if in near future it get reasonable price I might get one.

> I do not overclock, I will go with stock.
> Quite as possible
> No look required as I have non-transparent case


Going with EVGA as it has international warranty and my brother is coming from USA and he can get the card for me.

Thank you in advance
Sam

 

[dorsetknob]

Boilerplate Reply

"Suggest you wait a while Till the incoming Batch of Cards are Released from Both AMD and Nvida"

either may bring something significant to the Table which may interest you and therefore may Drive a market place Reassessment of Current Card Prices ( Downwards and therefor to your Advantage ).

 

[P4-630]

For 2560 x 1080 resolution a GTX1070 will be fine for high fps.

I recommend a MSI GTX1070 Gaming X/Z, excellent card, fast, cool and quiet!

 

[peche]

Hi

I'm planning on upgrading my GPU "EVGA GTX 660" to "EVGA GTX 1070" or "EVGA GTX 1080".
I am really confused whether should I go with 1080? My pocket does allow this card but is it really worth investing if I only play in single monitor setup? Currently, I have Dell U 2412M (I will upgrade it to 29" widescreen after getting new GPU). 34" monitor in India is very overpriced but do not know if in near future it get reasonable price I might get one.

> I do not overclock, I will go with stock.
> Quite as possible
> No look required as I have non-transparent case


Going with EVGA as it has international warranty and my brother is coming from USA and he can get the card for me.

Thank you in advance
Sam

GTX 1070 will be the perfect match for you, if have the complete money get GTX 1080, for having a quite interesting and little moar future proof card,

Given your screen specs:

Dell UltraSharp U2412M 61 cm (24") Monitor
DISPLAY
Diagonal Viewable Size:
24" (60.96 cm) viewable area
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:10)
Panel Type, Surface:
IPS (In-Plane Switching), anti glare with hard coat 3H
Optimal Resolution:
1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz
Contrast Ratio:
1000 : 1 (typical)
2,000,000:1 (dynamic)
Dynamic Contrast Ratio:
2 million:1 (Max)
Brightness:
300 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
8ms (gray to gray) Typical
Max Viewing Angle (vertical/horizontal)
178º / 178º
Color Support:
16.78 million colors
Color Gamut
82% (CIE 1976)
Pixel Pitch:
0.27 mm
Device Type
Widescreen Flat Panel Display

GTX 1070 again will fit all your needs, also you could use the extra money for replacing Cooler, for example GTX 1070 + Water AIO Cooler...

Regards,

 

[sammy_dude]

@dorsetknob
Thanks for the suggestion, yes I will wait for the TI before making final decision.
@P4-630
I need to get the EVGA as it has international warranty.
@peche
I always go with stock cooler for GPU. Personally I do not overclock and till now I never faced overheating of GPU. Does it really need water cooler for these version of cards?

 

[peche]

@peche
I always go with stock cooler for GPU. Personally I do not overclock and till now I never faced overheating of GPU. Does it really need water cooler for these version of cards?

Guess stock = Reference or Founders Edition,
I like reference founders cuz: 1st block its gonna be relase for this model, easier to install, no way to screw a fan or cooler parts when installing, they tend to push heat out of your case, contrary to some aftermarket coolers that might blow hot air against your other hardware (board, psu and everything closer to the card cooler) also if you replace paste and thermalpads card could achieve great temps for having just 1 blower, the unique 2 bad facts about reference / Founders cards are the noise and some high temps, but i like a lot this cooler, my previous and current card are reference models, love them !

 

[sammy_dude]

Guess stock = Reference or Founders Edition,
I like reference founders cuz: 1st block its gonna be relase for this model, easier to install, no way to screw a fan or cooler parts when installing, they tend to push heat out of your case, contrary to some aftermarket coolers that might blow hot air against your other hardware (board, psu and everything closer to the card cooler) also if you replace paste and thermalpads card could achieve great temps for having just 1 blower, the unique 2 bad facts about reference / Founders cards are the noise and some high temps, but i like a lot this cooler, my previous and current card are reference models, love them !

Yes exactly, 'Reference or Founders Edition'
I guess the FTW version is also good.

 

[peche]

Yes exactly, 'Reference or Founders Edition'
I guess the FTW version is also good.

i like a lot reference for the given specs, i use to overclock the video card not so often, besides reference / Founders Cooler i like a lot GigaByte's Wind force cooler or msi red / Black twin frzer or whatever its name is, i have had like 4 different Windforce cooler versions, like them a lot, this time have no oportunite to get a aftermarket cooled card, but when replace always look for gigabyte, another Solid coolers are the inno3D ones! herculez cooler!

EVGA's new FTW3 cooler on GTX 1080Ti seems solid, looks nice, waiting for some reviews to see how the 3 fan new cooler will perform, personally i dont like that boring scheme EVGA uses for their video cards lineup!

Regards,

 

[eidairaman1]

Look at Inno3D, Zotac, MSI, PNy for their warranties.

 

[GreiverBlade]

For 2560 x 1080 resolution a GTX1070 will be fine for high fps.

I recommend a MSI GTX1070 Gaming X/Z, excellent card, fast, cool and quiet!

seconded ... or even the Armor version ... cheaper, better (same PCB a little less component, not a bad OC'er either )

eh? @P4-630 (joking, but still recommending it ... paying less to have near the same performances and services is not bad all the time )

and no matter what brand : NEVER a founder edition ... even the lowest custom is better than a Founder edition and sometime cheaper ... i.e.: MSI Aero lineup

Guess stock = Reference or Founders Edition,
I like reference founders cuz: 1st block its gonna be relase for this model, easier to install, no way to screw a fan or cooler parts when installing, they tend to push heat out of your case, contrary to some aftermarket coolers that might blow hot air against your other hardware (board, psu and everything closer to the card cooler) also if you replace paste and thermalpads card could achieve great temps for having just 1 blower, the unique 2 bad facts about reference / Founders cards are the noise and some high temps, but i like a lot this cooler, my previous and current card are reference models, love them !

sooo you actually like to pay more for a FE and even more because you will have a block on it ... (and paying more for having less ... is totally a 100% safe maneuver )

Founder are just as bad as a old school reference card ... they have all in less than any custom, inclusive the lower type and all that "less" for an increased price ... what does make them better? waterblock compatibility? naaahhh invalid argumentation, custom block for custom model rarely take long and sometime even a older block can be compatible.

plus most of the time custom model doesn't even need a waterblock (unlike a FE for which it is mandatory to de cripple it ) and remain cool and silent on AIR (i.e.: my 1070 Armor rarely goes above 65° in gaming and fan remain idle up to 60° and kick in at 25-30% when they do )

actually they have more and 2 bad fact ... but they have only 1 good fact ... which is ... errr ... nope sorry i can't find one ... (originally i considered the HSF to be nice ... but on a second thought ... nope not even that redeem them)

@peche a little help for comparison ... FE = AS5 (joke)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Prices for 1080s are tumbling on eBay. Just yesterday, scored 2 nvidia 1080 founders editions with ek water blocks, ek backplates as well as the original boxes and original coolers for 500usd each.

If you can grab one on eBay that your brother can bring with him, I would do that. Evgas warranty is transferable since they apply their warranty to the card serial number itself and not the purchaser.

 

[P4-630]

Just:

and no matter what brand : NEVER a founder edition

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Just:

Unless adding a water block.

Edit: But I agree, if not going water or getting a block included I would go with a 3rd party like evga or MSI. But, taking a look at reviews, power draw increases with the 3rd parties 8+6 pin rather than the founders edition single 8 pin ,and performance increase I dont feel is justified.

 

[P4-630]

Unless adding a water block.

In this case:

> I do not overclock, I will go with stock.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Fair enough

 

[peche]

naaahhh invalid argumentation, custom block for custom model rarely take long and sometime even a older block can be compatible.

bring me a block for GTX 1080 classi and we will see... its valid for me cuz older 680 was on water for some months, found a second handed block for $45 used, also for the current GTX 980 i have found some blocks for $60 used... so pretty cheap, i dont purchase cards when just launched, i use to skip a generation or if possible got some hot deals or opportunity... thats why i have no problem with reference models,

sooo you actually like to pay more for a FE and even more because you will have a block on it ... (and paying more for having less ... is totally a 100% safe maneuver )

GTX 1000 series are the first with founders edition cooler, all the previous generations didnt got the stupid $100 moar for a founders edition, also have found some great deals on second handed FE GTX 1060...

plus most of the time custom model doesn't even need a waterblock (unlike a FE for which it is mandatory to de cripple it ) and remain cool and silent on AIR (i.e.: my 1070 Armor rarely goes above 65° in gaming and fan remain idle up to 60° and kick in at 25-30% when they do )

i have had Aftermarket cooled ones, like GTX 760 Oc Windoforce 3X from GB, and several other models...

Just:

have never gotten a problem with the reference models i have had, sorry for you if you had ...

Regards,

 

[P4-630]

have never gotten a problem with the reference models i have had, sorry for you if you had ...

Never had one but Founders Edition is running hotter than a cheaper and faster non-founder edition.

 

[peche]

Never had one but Founders Edition is running hotter than a cheaper and faster non-founder edition.

Agreed, havent used a FE card, but have seen some of them working flawless, also i always repaste my cards, no matter if they are new or second handed, i prefer to be sure the card will be in safe or better temps, also if possible i'll replace thermal pads too!


Regards,

 

[GreiverBlade]

GTX 1000 series are the first with founders edition cooler, all the previous generations didnt got the stupid $100 moar for a founders edition, also have found some great deals on second handed FE GTX 1060...

actually ... the founder edition cooler is just a dumb reference cooler like the previous reference from the 7XX and 9XX series, nothing more nothing less ... and the PCB and layout are also pure reference like the previous gen. (ps: the 1060 FE is nothing to fret about ... the cooler is not even he same as the 1070/1080 and does not deserve to be called founder.... not that the other 2 deserve it )

i did write that once ... "i do remember the time when reference were regarded as sh!t, and were nearly everybody would wait for custom model"

even a AERO from MSI (reference layout with a non idiotic reference blower that cost a extra 100$ for nothing)

bring me a block for GTX 1080 classi and we will see... its valid for me cuz older 680 was on water for some months, found a second handed block for $45 used, also for the current GTX 980 i have found some blocks for $60 used... so pretty cheap, i dont purchase cards when just launched, i use to skip a generation or if possible got some hot deals or opportunity... thats why i have no problem with reference models,

mmhhh the EKWB block for the 780 classic fit iirc ... tho i don't remember where i did read that ...

for the 1080Ti since 25.05.2016 just in case.
https://www.ekwb.com/news/existing-ek-fc-titan-x-pascal-compatible-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/
block will directly be here ... as they are the one for the titan XP ... too bad it's for founder edition

GTX 1080 Classi
https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/step1_complist?gpu_gpus=2005
too bad it's for EVGA ... nonetheless and yep the full cover is the GTX 780 Classi

holy crap they even have compatibility with my 1070 Armor


and the famous Aero i am talking about ... that one is 500% above a FE in term of interest .... (granted it still have a reference design ... but the cooler is ... better for those who want to put under water as it does not sport a gimmicky name that's just intended to make people think the card is special and above other )

Agreed, havent used a FE card, but have seen some of them working flawless, also i always repaste my cards, no matter if they are new or second handed, i prefer to be sure the card will be in safe or better temps, also if possible i'll replace thermal pads too!


Regards,

FE are nothing to be desired ... weaker PCB powerphase inferior in all aspect to any custom, working flawless ... maybe ... for a gimped card they do work as they intend to ...

indeed they :

Never had one but Founders Edition is running hotter than a cheaper and faster non-founder edition.

my current example the MSI Aero line is a blower type that cost less than a FE and has also a reference PCB layout : 500% more desirable for someone who want to put the card under water as it's not a overpriced reference,
for having a weaker lesser layout ... better pay less than more ... eh?

Unless adding a water block.

Edit: But I agree, if not going water or getting a block included I would go with a 3rd party like evga or MSI. But, taking a look at reviews, power draw increases with the 3rd parties 8+6 pin rather than the founders edition single 8 pin ,and performance increase I dont feel is justified.

still nope ... EKWB/XSPC/Alphacool are all doing block for custom and references alike ... if a custom is less than a FE ... WHY bother with a FE ...
i.e.: my 1070 Armor was a little bit cheaper than a FE ... thought the cooling solution is good enough to not warrant a water cooling ... if i did take a FE water cooling or aftermarket cooler would have been mandatory ... again WHY paying more to pay even more later to add a decent cooling solution to the card ... plus the PCB and power stage layout is beefier ... for less money ... FE are not good option (nor were references before that ... i remember my R9 290 ... fantastic card ... once under water otherwise ... not bad with ref cooler with fixed fan speed at 65% )

and when i see "nvidia reserve the best binned chip for their FE and use top grad material" ... i laugh hard ... that's the worst fake argument ever to justify a overprice ... FE are the worst idea that nvidia had in years ... and that's why we can have nice prices on custom model ... 699$ a FE and then nvidia say 599$ is the MSRP and custom model should base on the MSRP, which they do not ... i.e.: a single 1080 custom where i live is between 750 and 950$, the 1080Ti will be 1200-1300$ and not 699$ for me because of what? because of the FE


actually the Armor X2 cooler work quite good ... (compared to my previous 2 watercooled cards ... ok ... 2 gen and 1 brand between them )

 

[peche]

mmhhh the EKWB block for the 780 classic fit iirc ... tho i don't remember where i did read that ...

but the thing is no official one, EKWB didnt botter at least to make it public, we know cuz someone here found it, but all the users arround the world might no have tha info...
but you are in the point of "Greedvidia" trying to milk users money with a regular cooler, bad marketing in that point...

FE are nothing to be desired ... weaker PCB powerphase inferior in all aspect to any custom, working flawless ... maybe ... for a gimped card they do work as they intend to ...

indeed they :

just dont take it as every reference cooler is crap, 900 series have a quite solid cooler, same for some GTX 700 series...we all know that 1000 series came with that stupid cooler...

Regards,

 

[GreiverBlade]

but the thing is no official one, EKWB didnt botter at least to make it public, we know cuz someone here found it, but all the users arround the world might no have tha info...
but you are in the point of "Greedvidia" trying to milk users money with a regular cooler, bad marketing in that point...

nope ... it's advertised on their main website as it is select the GPU select the brand select the model : compatible full/semi block listed, all it need is a little bit of search on the block manufacturer website (seriously people need announcement? don't they know how to search for what they need anymore? )

but yep ... ngreedia .... what else. (tm)

just dont take it as every reference cooler is crap, 900 series have a quite solid cooler, same for some GTX 700 series...we all know that 1000 series came with that stupid cooler...

Regards,

nah .... references have no advantages whatsoever over custom. (plus most review of reference card always wrote in cons: throttled down by temp, my 290 was like that unless you push the hamsterwheel to 65% permanent and have a nice little hairblower feeling in your PC)

my Armor fans idle most of the time ... and when they go off it's at 60°+ and never saw more than 30-35% fan RPM ... quiet cool and efficient (tho i know that if i wanted to go watercooling on it ... EKWB has the solution )

take the Aero (again it's the best reference PCB you can find) and you have a reference without the overpriced ref cooler and still a weaker pcb/powerphase/power connector layout ... but does not matter ... you would pay less for it and for water cooling it's even better ...

 

[sammy_dude]

Few of the discussion is confusing me :| More of them are going for other brands.

I would like to go only with EVGA as if anything happen to card I have option to RMA it from India itself. I need to pay one side shipping to Taiwan and they will do the RMA.
I asked ASUS, MSI, ZOTAC support and their warranties are regional and I do not want to take the risk.
I have got the current Evga gtx 660 from USA in 2013 and even at that time only evga has international warranty.

After the TI is released I need to finalize a card from 1070/1080 depending on price drop. Evga site has listed 13 cards each under 1070 / 1080, which is a tough decision to select a card.

I do not overclock so there is no need for water cooling.

Everyone says no to Founder Edition and the basic blower type. So leaving these out there is still 6-7 model and I need to select one.

The SuperClocked version will obviously need the water cooling?
I guess I need to select one from FTW, FTW2, Classified version?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Few of the discussion is confusing me :| More of them are going for other brands.

I would like to go only with EVGA as if anything happen to card I have option to RMA it from India itself. I need to pay one side shipping to Taiwan and they will do the RMA.
I asked ASUS, MSI, ZOTAC support and their warranties are regional and I do not want to take the risk.
I have got the current Evga gtx 660 from USA in 2013 and even at that time only evga has international warranty.

After the TI is released I need to finalize a card from 1070/1080 depending on price drop. Evga site has listed 13 cards each under 1070 / 1080, which is a tough decision to select a card.

I do not overclock so there is no need for water cooling.

Everyone says no to Founder Edition and the basic blower type. So leaving these out there is still 6-7 model and I need to select one.

The SuperClocked version will obviously need the water cooling?
I guess I need to select one from FTW, FTW2, Classified version?

well then take EVGA whatever the model ... if you can buy cheaper FTW and OC it you can reach classi ... since you wont OC it's not an issue either, nevertheless factory OC is, most of the time, sufficient in the case of the FTW even in case of SC and SSC ...
for 1080p (1200p is same ...) and up to 1440p (is 4k a thing now? ... ) a 1070 would suffice widely

and no, none of the 10XX card would need watercooling in case of a custom (it's only reserved to the inferior, but pricier, FE ) most cooling solution from each brand are waaaayyy enough for a long time, furthermore if you don't OC
i.e.: my 1070 Armor from MSI is one of the cheapest 1070 with a decent cooling solution that feature idle stop fan the factory OC from MSI is 1556mhz core and 2002mhz memory clocks (technically 8008mhz in DDR ) i did OC it without any issues (albeit being voltage limited due to the fact that my card, even if using the same PCB as the Gaming X, has 1 6pin and 2 mosfet less ... but she still have plenty more room than a FE)


i can't recommend EVGA because i had issues with some of their cards ... while MSI and other nope ... soooo what good is a warranty if you will not need it (in case of RMA) EVGA offer a global warranty and they know why they do offer it (semi joking)

the 1070 SC would be fine, it's even higher stock clocked than my Armor and i have yet to see any game in 1080p that push it heavily, aka: seeing stutter, hardware lag, fan spinning ... (well they idle at 60° and under ...)

edit: and no (second), OC does not equal to watercooling is mandatory, most custom can OC quite fine

i forgot @peche

they tend to push heat out of your case, contrary to some aftermarket coolers that might blow hot air against your other hardware (board, psu and everything closer to the card cooler)

that argument is valid only in case of a airflow restricted case or a mITX case (mostly mITX cases ... since usually other cases have a good airflow and it's always the user that mess up the airflow ) actually .... my Armor does blow hot air on my mobo ... 60° but due to the fin orientation ... most of it is evacuated on the back and front of the card (no temperatures difference noticed between a radial and a hamsterwheel when i had my 290 stock)

 

[sammy_dude]

well then take EVGA whatever the model ... if you can buy cheaper FTW and OC it you can reach classi ... since you wont OC it's not an issue either, nevertheless factory OC is, most of the time, sufficient in the case of the FTW even in case of SC and SSC ...
for 1080p (1200p is same ...) and up to 1440p (is 4k a thing now? ... ) a 1070 would suffice widely

and no, none of the 10XX card would need watercooling in case of a custom (it's only reserved to the inferior, but pricier, FE ) most cooling solution from each brand are waaaayyy enough for a long time, furthermore if you don't OC
i.e.: my 1070 Armor from MSI is one of the cheapest 1070 with a decent cooling solution that feature idle stop fan the factory OC from MSI is 1556mhz core and 2002mhz memory clocks (technically 8008mhz in DDR ) i did OC it without any issues (albeit being voltage limited due to the fact that my card, even if using the same PCB as the Gaming X, has 1 6pin and 2 mosfet less ... but she still have plenty more room than a FE)


i can't recommend EVGA because i had issues with some of their cards ... while MSI and other nope ... soooo what good is a warranty if you will not need it (in case of RMA) EVGA offer a global warranty and they know why they do offer it (semi joking)

the 1070 SC would be fine, it's even higher stock clocked than my Armor and i have yet to see any game in 1080p that push it heavily, aka: seeing stutter, hardware lag, fan spinning ... (well they idle at 60° and under ...)

edit: and no (second), OC does not equal to watercooling is mandatory, most custom can OC quite fine

i forgot @peche

that argument is valid only in case of a airflow restricted case or a mITX case (mostly mITX cases ... since usually other cases have a good airflow and it's always the user that mess up the airflow ) actually .... my Armor does blow hot air on my mobo ... 60° but due to the fin orientation ... most of it is evacuated on the back and front of the card (no temperatures difference noticed between a radial and a hamsterwheel when i had my 290 stock)

Thanks, I need to change my monitor maybe in this year end but I might select a 4k monitor or a wide screen monitor. I am thinking to take 1080 to be more future and monitor upgrade proof.

I have read Evga has lowest dead on arrival rate? what about MSI?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Thanks, I need to change my monitor maybe in this year end but I might select a 4k monitor or a wide screen monitor. I am thinking to take 1080 to be more future and monitor upgrade proof.

just take a 1440p 144hz monitor (i intend to do the same) ... 4K is no good for now ... unless you take 2 1080 or eventually a 1080Ti, well a 1070 is also future proof ... if you take a single 1080 ... even buying a second later for 4k would not be a good idea ... as SLI is all but something interesting or useful

I have read Evga has lowest dead on arrival rate? what about MSI?

DOA has nothing to do with my issues with EVGA or the lack of issues with other brands

and due to my misadventures with them ... i came to hate EVGA so it's in my "do not buy" list ... i will never recommend them but if someone want to buy from them, i will not say : "don't do it they're bad" since my issues could also have come from bad luck ... (tho 3 time is bad luck ... 4 time is suspicious )

for me my 1070 will serve me long enough and 1440p will be the next step (4K ... well, we'll talk in 4 or 5 years ... when it will be mainstream and actually an option )

nonetheless ... if you can afford one single powerful GPU go for it ... th e1080 SC or FTW are good to go also