Is This Internet Plan Good Enough ?

[Durvelle27]

Ok guys i have a question, Know I'm good for them

Ok looking for a internet plan for a small condo and was wondering if any if these plans are decent for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and every now and then online gaming. Or possible 3 devices streaming at once.

Comcast Cable upto 10Mbps
AT&T Fiber upto 12Mbps

Both run around the same price in this area. Sadly they are the only 2 providers here.

 

[P4-630]

So that 10MBs would be 80Mbps, three devices all streaming at the same time is not enough I think...

If there is no faster option yeah well the AT&T then with 12MBs...

 

[Durvelle27]

So that 10MBs would be 80Mbps, three devices all streaming at the same time is not enough I think...

If there is no faster option yeah well the AT&T then with 12MBs...

Corrected OP

Fastest plan avaiable is 25Mbps

 

[P4-630]

Corrected OP

Fastest plan avaiable is 25Mbps

Ouch... That could be a problem...

I would at least go for 150Mbps for 3 devices streaming at the same time.

 

[ChristTheGreat]

For netflix:

Below are the Internet download speed recommendations per stream for playing TV shows and movies through Netflix.

• 0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
• 1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
• 3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
• 5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
• 25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality

At HD, you would need about 15Mbps for 3 devices at the same time

 

[Durvelle27]

Ouch... That could be a problem...

I would at least go for 150Mbps for 3 devices streaming at the same time.

150 would be overkill

For netflix:

Below are the Internet download speed recommendations per stream for playing TV shows and movies through Netflix.

• 0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
• 1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
• 3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
• 5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
• 25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality

At HD, you would need about 15Mbps for 3 devices at the same time

Is that always exact or just esitamate

 

[Aquinus]

I would at least go for 150Mbps for 3 devices streaming at the same time.

What are you streaming? 4k @ 60fps? I've found Netflix and Amazon tend to use about 25-35Mbit down to stream 4k content. You don't need 150MBit down for 3 people stream, even more so if they're not all streaming 4k. Also, Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu will adjust quality to the available bandwidth so it's not really a matter of if you can stream but, how good it will look when everyone is doing it at once.

 

[ChristTheGreat]

These are recommandation by Netflix:

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Can be a little bit lower, but they recommand this.

 

[Durvelle27]

What are you streaming? 4k @ 60fps? I've found Netflix and Amazon tend to use about 25-35Mbit down to stream 4k content. You don't need 150MBit down for 3 people stream, even more so if they're not all streaming 4k. Also, Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu will adjust quality to the available bandwidth so it's not really a matter of if you can stream but, how good it will look when everyone is doing it at once.

There's 2 4K TVs and 1 1080P TV but everything is always streamed at 1080 as non of the devices support 4K.

 

[Solaris17]

I think streaming of any kind regardless of quality bottoms out at 15mbps.

That might buffer if multiple devices are trying at the same time, but after they buffer it should be fin since you would in theory just be bursting the data after the inital load to keep the buffer.

Thats my expetrience from when I lived in teh sticks.

 

[qubit]

Comcast Cable upto 10Mbps
AT&T Fiber upto 12Mbps

That's a terrible deal, I get 18.8Mbps with truely unlimited usage on outdated technology ADSL here in Blighty. Fibre should get you 80Mbps and more. Shame you don't have any other options.

 

[brandonwh64]

150 would be overkill


Is that always exact or just esitamate

trust me... 150Mbps is never overkill.

 

[Durvelle27]

That's a terrible deal, I get 18.8Mbps with truely unlimited usage on outdated technology ADSL here in Blighty. Fibre should get you 80Mbps and more. Shame you don't have any other options.

Yea it sucks but 25 is an option

trust me... 150Mbps is never overkill.

For this situation it is

I think streaming of any kind regardless of quality bottoms out at 15mbps.

That might buffer if multiple devices are trying at the same time, but after they buffer it should be fin since you would in theory just be bursting the data after the inital load to keep the buffer.

Thats my expetrience from when I lived in teh sticks.

Hmmmmm ok

 

[newtekie1]

I'm surprised Comcast doesn't offer anything faster. In my area the slowest package the offer is 10Mbps, and that is like $20 a month. The next package higher is 25Mbps and the next package after that is 75Mbps. The 75Mbps package is only $60 a month. Unless you are just looking at the cheapest internet packages from each company. For what you are wanting to do, the 25Mbps package from Comcast should do the job, but right now the 75Mbps is actually the same price with no annual contract. Of course, the pricing might vary in your area. But, I'd recommend at least 25Mbps.

Also, I find that Comcast is more accurate with their speed ratings. So if you do go with one, I'd pick them. That 10Mbps will likely actually be 10Mbps. While AT&T's 12Mbps usually tends to be in the 6-8Mbps range unless you get really lucky.

That's a terrible deal, I get 18.8Mbps with truely unlimited usage on outdated technology ADSL here in Blighty. Fibre should get you 80Mbps and more. Shame you don't have any other options.

That is the problem with consumer level fiber in the US. In most cases it is FTTN. Which just means AT&T ran a fiber connection to the neighborhood, and then the whole neighborhood branch off that fiber connection. Most of the time, when people and ISPs say fiber, they mean FTTB or FTTP. Which is a fiber connection running all the way to the building or all the way to the actual customer's equipment. So the fiber connections can be so much faster. But AT&T is just running an entire neighborhood off a single fiber connection, so the speeds they offer on their "fiber" aren't any better than what they had on their DSL, because so many people are sharing the fiber connection. They basically only ran the consumer fiber so they could market the buss word "fiber" to get people excited about it.

 

[Aquinus]

I'm surprised Comcast doesn't offer anything faster. In my area the slowest package the offer is 10Mbps, and that is like $20 a month. The next package higher is 25Mbps and the next package after that is 75Mbps. The 75Mbps package is only $60 a month. Unless you are just looking at the cheapest internet packages from each company. For what you are wanting to do, the 25Mbps package from Comcast should do the job, but right now the 75Mbps is actually the same price with no annual contract. Of course, the pricing might vary in your area. But, I'd recommend at least 25Mbps.

Also, I find that Comcast is more accurate with their speed ratings. So if you do go with one, I'd pick them. That 10Mbps will likely actually be 10Mbps. While AT&T's 12Mbps usually tends to be in the 6-8Mbps range unless you get really lucky.

I agree but, that is likely not the case if it's out in the boons. I know that if I went outside of Concord (even more so if I go north, west, or anywhere in between,) I might not be able to keep the kind of service I get where I am now. Comcast definitely offers different speeds based on location.

 

[newtekie1]

I agree but, that is likely not the case if it's out in the boons. I know that if I went outside of Concord (even more so if I go north, west, or anywhere in between,) I might not be able to keep the kind of service I get where I am now. Comcast definitely offers different speeds based on location.

Yeah, but the good thing about cable vs. DSL is that as long as a connection is possible, you can usually always get a decent speed. As long as he can get a channel lock he should be able to get at least 25Mbps. Unless Comcast has just way oversold the area, and is only offering 10Mbps due to congestion. But even then, I'm surprised they aren't offering at least 25Mbps. Like I said, I'm just surprised, not saying it isn't possible.

 

[Aquinus]

But even then, I'm surprised they aren't offering at least 25Mbps.

Didn't the OP say:

Corrected OP

Fastest plan avaiable is 25Mbps

I wouldn't be surprised if it were the boons and the 75 (100 or 50 this "tier" seems to be inconsistent in my area) and 150 plans were not options.

 

[newtekie1]

Didn't the OP say:

I wouldn't be surprised if it were the boons and the 75 (100 or 50 this "tier" seems to be inconsistent in my area) and 150 plans were not options.

I read it as AT&T was offering 25Mbps, since the post he quoted ended in saying go with AT&T. But going back and re-reading, yeah that could be Comcast.

Anyway, I think we are all in agreement that 25Mbps is pretty much the minimum the OP is going to want for 3 HD streams going at once.

 

[P4-630]

What are you streaming? 4k @ 60fps? I've found Netflix and Amazon tend to use about 25-35Mbit down to stream 4k content. You don't need 150MBit down for 3 people stream, even more so if they're not all streaming 4k. Also, Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu will adjust quality to the available bandwidth so it's not really a matter of if you can stream but, how good it will look when everyone is doing it at once.

Well my uncle used to have 45Mbps download, they are with 3 people and that wasn't a good experience they said, they went with 150MBps download and all seems good now.

 

[qubit]

Yea it sucks but 25 is an option

If the price is right, I recommend you get it without hesitation. Speed and reliability really are everything.

 

[Durvelle27]

Ok so just to clarify and not cause futher confusion

Comcast offers

10Mbps
25Mbps
75Mbps
150Mbps
2000Mbs

AT&T offers

12Mbps
45Mbps
75Mbps
100Mbs

At my house we have 75Mbps

I'm looking for service for a condo I'm getting which is limited to AT&T 12Mbps and Comcast 25Mbps. They say 75 is avaiable but may not be consistent due to area.

 

[stefanels]

Wow... Here in Romania (Eastern Europe) the slowest speed is 300Mbps for 7-8 usd and we have 1Gbps for 14-15 usd...

 

[eidairaman1]

ATT FIBER if FTTN= fiber from central office up to a street cabinet, then from cabinet copper pair to the home, 25Mbps is 2000 feet or less from node to home. There is bonded pair service too. FTTH is fiber up to the side of a home using a GPON or BPON then from there to the modem is ethernet.

Was AT&T Uverse Tech from 2013-2014.
Where I live I have Windstream with 6Mbps, I can get way higher speeds and kinetic tv service with my home only being 500 feet from a Node. 6Mbps handles gaming and netflix fine.

 

[Durvelle27]

Any other suggestions

Location is Bartlett, TN

 

[erocker]

The fastest available to you is quite slow. Get the 25Mbps line. It will just cut it streaming 3 x1080p streams.