m.2 nvme SSD worth it ??

[n-ster]

Looks like you knew what you were getting into before buying your parts, many people don't, so that's good! Careful with the keyboard though, it's such a subjective thing, I have a Corsair K60 that I never use because I don't like Cherry MX Reds that everyone used to call "gaming" switches. I much prefer my Cherry MX Black Keyboard now.

What are you doing for sound?

Storage will be 500-750$ if you go with the NVMe + SATA I suggested
Case looks like 300-350$ probably since you are going with wow-factor
Chair, if you go gaming AND comfortable, it may be quite expensive can easily climb up to 300-500$ here
Radiator fans could easily go up to 100$ if you start doing push-pull etc
Other accessories 50-150$ probably?

so that's 1300~1700$ just there...

I hear custom loops cost 600-800$ USD for CPU + GPU, about 350$ USD for CPU only. In CAD even on the cheap end that's 500-800$ basically.

Even when we cheap out a bit we are approaching 7k$ budget... if we go absolute cheapest we're still be talking 5.5-6K$.

Cheap out on the chair, get only one drive for now, get a temporary air cooler perhaps and let water cooling be a project for another time? I think otherwise we will be in the "my wife will literally kill me" territory. Even with 1 drive (330$) + case (320$) + chair (170$) + accessories (50$) + any kind of cooler (50?$) + taxes and shipping (50-80$), we will be at around 1k$, getting to your ~5k$ budget basically

 

[RejZoR]

For the love of god, don't even think of using SSD boot drive and garbage HDD for "storage" in a $4000 build. Go SSD only. You'll thank me later.

 

[n-ster]

I think that's what he's thinking of doing, when I say SATA, I mean SATA SSD

 

[Carsomyr]

My mistakes guys, typo*** I meant to type 3100$ and not 3800$ cad.

700$ monitor
715$ keyboard ram mouse and psu
1700$ motherboard gpu and i7 processor

That's 3115$ to be predates so yeah, I planned for just enough budget for the whole thing. If I go crazy with the drives and other things I'll go beyond otherwise it will fit.

800$ for custom water kit
300$ for chair
400$ for case
300$-600$ for storage
Accessories 120$ (four fans etc)
If I go reasonable I hit 5000$ taxes in otherwise I hit 5500$. I'll try and fit it in 5k$

This is best said in French:
Ça va être sur la coche!

 

[EarthDog]

$700 between a case and a chair???????????? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

 

[Carsomyr]

$700 between a case and a chair???????????? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

CAD$$$ mate not usd. In usd that's 480$

 

[revin]

Intel really tricked out the 750. It's a beast so if you want to get single drive speed look's to be one of the best option
Here ole JJ from Asus PCDIY gives it a run thru and talks about how Intel knocked it out of the park.

 

[EarthDog]

CAD$$$ mate not usd. In usd that's 480$

A decent case is going to run you like $150, so you have $330 for a chair. Wow.

 

[Carsomyr]

A decent case is going to run you like $150, so you have $330 for a chair. Wow.

In usd for a gaming chair. We're taking 250$usd and up for anything really ergonomic. I have back problems and have a CRAPPY chair. I've tried my friends 500$ chair and Lord in heaven is it good to sit in!

As for the case, my build is a showoff build. So yeah, tempered glass and everything. Will run ya more like 200$usd rather than the very decent 100$ usd ones

 

[Hood]

To answer your title question, YES, it's worth it. I used the fastest SATA SSD (Samsung 850 Pro) for 2 years as Windows boot drive, then a year ago I upgraded to Intel 750 400 GB NVMe drive - the difference was subtle, at first, but over time I found more and more things that made it worth the $300 I spent. Things like Windows Update, drive cleanup, defrag and optimize, and other Windows utilities are MUCH faster; also virus scans, file compression/decompression, and anything that requires lots of small file reads/writes. Games/levels load amazingly fast - I only play 4 or 5 different games, so they all fit easily on my 400 GB boot drive. I have a 256 GB Plextor M6e (PCIe 2.0 x 2, NON-NVMe) M.2 drive that I use for torrent downloads (faster to move them later).
I recommend a Samsung 960 Pro 512 for your boot/game drive, or maybe the 1 TB version if you want to install a lot of large games, and one large HDD (4 TB or larger) for music/movies/photos (files that won't benefit from storing on SSD).

 

[EarthDog]

Your aren't supposed to be defragging an ssd man. They take care of themselves.

 

[n-ster]

Intel really tricked out the 750. It's a beast so if you want to get single drive speed look's to be one of the best option

Slower and more expensive than the 960 EVO 500GB

I recommend a Samsung 960 Pro 512 for your boot/game drive, or maybe the 1 TB version if you want to install a lot of large games, and one large HDD (4 TB or larger) for music/movies/photos (files that won't benefit from storing on SSD).

The Pro is so much more expensive for unnoticeable gain in performance, and we are tight on the budget now

Your aren't supposed to be defragging an ssd man. They take care of themselves.

Defrag and Optimize doesn't defrag the SSD, it runs TRIM on the SSD

 

[Hood]

The Pro is so much more expensive for unnoticeable gain in performance, and we are tight on the budget now

Okay, then, the 960 Evo 500 GB, and any SATA SSD for Games, if needed.

 

[Uncanny1]

In usd for a gaming chair. We're taking 250$usd and up for anything really ergonomic. I have back problems and have a CRAPPY chair. I've tried my friends 500$ chair and Lord in heaven is it good to sit in!

As for the case, my build is a showoff build. So yeah, tempered glass and everything. Will run ya more like 200$usd rather than the very decent 100$ usd ones

There are obviously many better chairs... but I've used an IKEA Markus chair for years. Good value, sturdy, mesh back, comfy overall.

Do you have finished build pictures?

 

[Carsomyr]

There are obviously many better chairs... but I've used an IKEA Markus chair for years. Good value, sturdy, mesh back, comfy overall.

Do you have finished build pictures?

Oh yes I do!
I should have posted here for a link to the gallery.

Quite proud of the result
Here's the link:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/guys-im-so-proud.230740/page-2

 

[revin]

Here's the link:

Umm where ??????????

 

[EarthDog]

It's there...

 

[Carsomyr]

Umm where ??????????

Its there. Check again
Check out the second page of that thread. you'll find most of the interesting pictures there

 

[EarthDog]

Post 40... it's there.

 

[ERazer]

Nvme overall performance as boot drive its really good when it comes to loading game i dont noticed much difference compare to my regular SSD.

 

[EarthDog]

HDD I have no trouble using. I actually have a combo of HDD and SSD. As you know, HDD has more space. With a higher rated data cable, you could use drives setup to run faster than Sata III. I have tried different things. I have not been able to use hybrids in raid, and I moved 1 hybrid to a laptop that I was ok with keeping as HDD, but no longer has it completely. Something like Toshiba OCZ RD400 M2 MLC, if you are able to use it, could have more speed. If you do not have the slot for it you can get PCI Express version. It does not use wires.

The wire has nothing to do with it... sata3 6gpbs is 6gpbs, period. No can will allow it to run faster than that.

 

[Konceptz]

What SSDs do you have currently? As you mentioned, larger SSDs tend to perform slightly better then smaller once, not by much but there is a difference. I have a similar decision to make on my upcoming Ryzen R5 build. I currently have an 512 850 pro.

If I had your budget I'd go for the 512GB 960 Pro and get a set of 2TB Seagate Firecudas and raid those as raid 1 or maybe even get 4 and run RAID 10 if you want the capacity and speed.