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Harvard researchers are set to test aerosol sprays that could be used to combat climate change.

The controversial technique could one day be used to block incoming solar radiation and cool down Earth to combat the effects of global warming.

The first-of-its-kind experiment could begin as early as next year and will pump small amounts of material into the stratosphere to reflect the sun's rays.


It will test the feasibility of what scientists are calling 'solar geoengineering' - though the Harvard team say that they will only use water vapour at first.

During testing, the team will analyse a variety of aerosol materials that could be used at scale in future.



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Proof the inmates are running the asylum...
 
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I've been thinking the same since I saw that show.....I was like wow that's really about the USA Government and planet for that matter.
 
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Uh.. They've clearly have been doing this for years already. Look up.
 

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Love that movie! :D
 
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Reminds me of all the eviro feelz we got form switching from a renewable, environmentally friendly products like paper bags. Good job filling the landfills with plastic....a$$holes! Or the time that eggheads in California set fire to a forest thinking they could control mother nature and ended up wiping out entire forested areas. It's high time the pseudo scientists and tree huggers stop @#%^ing with our planet and stick to what we KNOW works.

Fun Fact: CO2 is not just a greenhouse gas it's also plant food. Massive deforestation and reduction of CO2 means less oxygen for us. and that polar bear.
 
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Reminds me of all the eviro feelz we got form switching from a renewable, environmentally friendly products like paper bags. Good job filling the landfills with plastic....a$$holes!

The move is to actaully ban plastic bags, not paper. I know because my city did this and it was very proud of it's "pioneering effort"
 

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The move is to actaully ban plastic bags, not paper. I know because my city did this and it was very proud of it's "pioneering effort"
Not at my town did we ban plastic bags. I mean I just used one to carry my large amount of deli Mac n cheese to the sitting area for lunch.

So close yet so far from my froggy love town.
 

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water vapor + stratosphere = cirrus clouds = much debate of their effect on forcing = silly proposal until the effects of high altitude clouds is known
 
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You post a facepalm meme without any argument? Enlighten us if you can.

To be fair, everyone posting about how it "won't work" or will "fuck up our climate" using references to hollywood wasn't our finest level of argumentation.
 
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water vapor + stratosphere = cirrus clouds = much debate of their effect on forcing = silly proposal until the effects of high altitude clouds is known
Heh, you really think it's just water vapor?

Again, how is this a new thing? There's thousands of videos on You Tube that show this "spraying" being done systematically. Some show some sort of resonance/vibration being applied to these "fake clouds" that help them spread out. So, if Harvard is about to start doing this, who's been doing it?
 

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The OP says they're starting with water vapor.


Previous spraying was for cloud seeding which has had mixed results and generally not done anymore in the USA (China is going to start doing it though apparently).

In order for clouds to reduce Earth's temperature, the clouds have to be thick and/or highly reflective. Cloud seeding generally isn't a solution because the amount of seeding required to make a cloud that lowers temperature is relatively unpredictable and quite unreliable.
 
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To be fair, everyone posting about how it "won't work" or will "fuck up our climate" using references to hollywood wasn't our finest level of argumentation.

Lmao yeah fair point
 
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Previous spraying was for cloud seeding which has had mixed results and generally not done anymore in the USA
They're still doing it here almost daily.
 
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You post a facepalm meme without any argument? Enlighten us if you can.

argue with who? the idiot who blames environmentalists for something done by a lobbying groups and bought out politicians? or the guys who keep bringing up poorly scripted movies that bombed in every way possible?

but fine, i'll bite. Both NY and California tried to ban plastic bags in the 50s and the 80s, but were blocked every time by (mostly conservative) morons in power who regurgitated scripts given to them by plastics industry trade groups in exchange for campaign contributions. plastics lobbying groups literally wrote laws for their puppet politicians to bring to a vote.

i'll just assume the movie mentions were attempts at humor.

no one here actually knows the merits or drawbacks of the proposed methods of dealing with climate change. i have a bachelors in math/quantitative biology from Hunter college and a masters in biotech from Columbia university. that's the very fancy Columbia university in NYC that pumped out 70+ winners of nobel prizes in science. but even i don't pretend like i know what will or won't fix climate change.

if anyone here thinks they know better, they give out cash with those nobel prizes.
 
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argue with who? the idiot who blames environmentalists for something done by a lobbying groups and bought out politicians? or the guys who keep bringing up poorly scripted movies that bombed in every way possible?

but fine, i'll bite. Both NY and California tried to ban plastic bags in the 50s and the 80s, but were blocked every time by (mostly conservative) morons in power who regurgitated scripts given to them by plastics industry trade groups in exchange for campaign contributions. plastics lobbying groups literally wrote laws for their puppet politicians to bring to a vote.

i'll just assume the movie mentions were attempts at humor.

no one here actually knows the merits or drawbacks of the proposed methods of dealing with climate change. i have a bachelors in math/quantitative biology from Hunter college and a masters in biotech from Columbia university. that's the very fancy Columbia university in NYC that pumped out 70+ winners of nobel prizes in science. but even i don't pretend like i know what will or won't fix climate change.

if anyone here thinks they know better, they give out cash with those nobel prizes.

I'm talking about in general jesus christ don't get your panties in a twist, at least you enlighten me/us with something.
 
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Solar cycles are relatively regular though. The hockey stick pattern of average greenhouse gases (especially carbon dioxide and methane) is not regular.

Wide view:
http://acrim.com/


Narrow view mostly up to date:
https://ceres.larc.nasa.gov/science_information.php?page=TSIdata
upload_2017-4-20_5-55-37.png



Carbon dioxide:


Methane:


Temperature:


Total solar irradiance no doubt contributed to the record breaking temperatures over the last five years or so but, in ~8 years, the sun is going to put out as much radiation as it did then too (11 year cycles).


Remember, the atmosphere is a very thin, delicate thing less than 1% the radius of the Earth itself...
 
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