AM4 Build...Any Suggestions before I buy today or tomorrow?

Grings · Apr 22, 2017

notb said:
The Z270 Taichi variant is basically the same (better chipset-dependent features), so people will raise eyebrows if it doesn't get a 10 as well.

Bear in mind it has a hell of a lot more competition than the AMD variant

Plus past a certain level of quality pretty much all boards overclock a k cpu to around the same level, its how far they oc ram that can vary, and the z270 taichi only lists 3733mhz ram support, a lot of other z270 (and z170) boards go over 4000mhz

notb · Apr 22, 2017

Grings said:
Bear in mind it has a hell of a lot more competition than the AMD variant

I find it irrelevant. Even if most people choose CPU first and then the mobo, we should still look at the market as a whole.
E.g. if none of Ryzen boards would support M.2 disks or USB 3.1, should we still give them excellent marks?

IMO a board should be compared to everything available and chipset's features should also be considered. We're evaluating a complete product after all, not the vendors' good will.
If a Z270 board gets better scores than H270, why shouldn't we also compare Intel vs AMD?

cadaveca · Apr 22, 2017

notb said:
Still, the perfect score stimulates imagination and can lead to situations like the one here with @MxPhenom 216.

Phenom is also in our Discord server so has literally heard the excitement in my voice about this board.

notb said:
And I see you have the Z270 SuperCarrier in the queue as well. Isn't this the best-featured motherboard we've seen lately? I'm looking forward to that review.

"more" isn't always better. The super carrier is the new Extreme11 board, boards that were showcases of engineering more often than practical. They are very hard to review because the target audience for such boards is very small.

notb said:
I find it irrelevant. Even if most people choose CPU first and then the mobo, we should still look at the market as a whole.
E.g. if none of Ryzen boards would support M.2 disks or USB 3.1, should we still give them excellent marks?

IMO a board should be compared to everything available and chipset's features should also be considered. We're evaluating a complete product after all, not the vendors' good will.
If a Z270 board gets better scores than H270, why shouldn't we also compare Intel vs AMD?

You're then looking at the platform as a whole, and not the individual product. That's why our opinions differ bit here; I strive to remove all variables, you seem to want to consider all of them. But budget constraints

For example, this thread is about AM4 boards, and suggested parts, but here we are talking about Intel... totally off-topic.

Totally · Apr 22, 2017

This guy goes pretty in depth about the taichi and points out some of its shortcomings, it has it strong points but it isn't without it's flaws. So, personally I'm inclined to say that a 10/10 is a bit overrated.

Mighty-Lu-Bu · Apr 22, 2017

Totally said:
This guy goes pretty in depth about the taichi and points out some of it's flaws, it has it strong points but it isn't without it's flaws. So, personally I'm inclined to say that a 10/10 is a bit overrated.

Even if it isn't a perfect 10, it is still the best AM4 board you can buy right now. Also, it is important to note that it is one of the few AM4 boards out there where DDR4 RAM at 3200Mhz works right out of the box with no tweaking needed. I have heard horror stories with AM4 MIS boards and Gigabyte boards.

notb · Apr 23, 2017

cadaveca said:
You're then looking at the platform as a whole, and not the individual product. That's why our opinions differ bit here; I strive to remove all variables, you seem to want to consider all of them. But budget constraints

Of course I'm not saying high marks should be reserved for high-end, expensive products. And of course we must consider other limitations: like size of board (obviously M-ITX boards will never offer as much as ATX).
But the "environment" factor, i.e. that the competition in AM4 is - at this point - weaker than in Intel platform, is IMO not enough.
Here you are correct: I choose a platform as a whole. This opposites to a more hierarchical way: e.g. starting with one's dream CPU and then just choosing from what is available.

And speaking about mini ITX boards, where are they? Is Biostar exclusive on that or what? :/

Spaceye · Apr 23, 2017

Newegg is still out of stock of the ASRock board and I couldn't wait to start ordering parts...as you might be able to tell I ended up going with the Asus ROG Crosshair for the motherboard and Thermaltake Water 3.0...some of you are saying whhyyy I know it! :laugh:

I'm still waiting on the TridentZ ram shipping from N.Y!!! Why!!! and some paint to do some changes to the color of the case, which I cant wait to start on so I can start putting things together finally!

I started using some I had for the inside panel of my XPS case...I think im liking the results!

Jorge Nascimento · Apr 23, 2017

Hello there.

Might i give you some advice on memories.
Few days ago i builted a Ryzen 5 1600X with a gigabyte AB350M gaming 3.
I bought the gskill rgb memories (3200) and I didnt managed to go over 2933 mhz.
My advice to you dont buy corsair you will have problems and will only be able to achiev 3200 with CAS at 16 or 17.
I went to the shop and bought the gskill flareX 3200 (specific for am4). I am now running all cores @4.1 with memories @ Cas 15 (3200mhz).
I have ran tests and benchmarks and everything is stable, not all memories at ryzen friendly.
Have a friend with a Ryzen 7 1700 with the same problem e assembled the pc 1 month ago, and he has the Gskill trident RGB CL14 3200 and he can only run them at 2933MHZ and had to increase CAS to 16 so that is machine doesnt freeze and he has the same motherboard you want to buy.
My advice switch to gigabyte Motherboard more stable and as reported by many much better and cheaper.

MxPhenom 216 · Apr 23, 2017

Spaceye said:
Newegg is still out of stock of the ASRock board and I couldn't wait to start ordering parts...as you might be able to tell I ended up going with the Asus ROG Crosshair for the motherboard and Thermaltake Water 3.0...some of you are saying whhyyy I know it!

I'm still waiting on the TridentZ ram shipping from N.Y!!! Why!!! and some paint to do some changes to the color of the case, which I cant wait to start on so I can start putting things together finally!

I started using some I had for the inside panel of my XPS case...I think im liking the results!

Have fun with it dude. I've been dying to build a new computer lately.

Spaceye · Apr 23, 2017

MxPhenom 216 said:
Have fun with it dude. I've been dying to build a new computer lately.

Thanks! I'll post updates as I go

Swear I can literally feel the seconds go by while I wait for the RAM... that can't be a good thing can it??..According to Jorge its not

Speaking of which, I found a big new package in my front porch today...can one of you guess what it could be?!?!? :peace:

Cvrk · Apr 24, 2017

Spaceye said:
can one of you guess what it could be?!?!?

Yes. It's a pullover http://www.ebay.de/itm/ROCKGEWITTER-2in1-Pullover-schwarz-Gr-L-P8-B72-/371864011012

But how come people leave packages in front of porch and they don't get stolen ? What country/town do you live in ?

MxPhenom 216 · Apr 24, 2017

Cvrk said:
Yes. It's a pullover http://www.ebay.de/itm/ROCKGEWITTER-2in1-Pullover-schwarz-Gr-L-P8-B72-/371864011012

But how come people leave packages in front of porch and they don't get stolen ? What country/town do you live in ?

In the US, packages are always left on the front porch, and unless you live in chicago or Compton, CA you probably wont have a problem with them being stolen. I have never had mine stolen.

dir_d · Apr 24, 2017

MxPhenom 216 said:
In the US, packages are always left on the front porch, and unless you live in chicago or Compton, CA you probably wont have a problem with them being stolen. I have never had mine stolen.

They get stolen all the time in the bay, not by shady looking individuals either. Usually women that look like soccer moms walking down the street.

jormungand · Apr 24, 2017

MxPhenom 216 said:
In the US, packages are always left on the front porch, and unless you live in chicago or Compton, CA you probably wont have a problem with them being stolen. I have never had mine stolen.

You forgot about miami lol

springs113 · Apr 24, 2017

lol packages get taken from everywhere, just depends on where you live. my neighbors would probably shoot someone if they saw that happening.

Kanan · Apr 25, 2017

I wouldn't accept lazy postmen doing that and risk it to be stolen, whether here or in the US - not acceptable.

Jorge Nascimento · Apr 25, 2017

Here in Portugal if your not home the national postal service will leave a slit in your mail box and you will need to pick up your package at the local distribution centre with a valid ID.

Kanan · Apr 25, 2017

Jorge Nascimento said:
Here in Portugal if your not home the national postal service will leave a slit in your mail box and you will need to pick up your package at the local distribution centre with a valid ID.

Same as in Germany. That's the way to handle things.

notb · Apr 25, 2017

Kanan said:
Same as in Germany. That's the way to handle things.

I'm really puzzled by how this is done in US.
A few years back there was a video going around the net with some delivery guy throwing a TV over a fence.
I really didn't understand it at that point. Wouldn't the client be mad when signing the delivery form? I learned afterwards how this works (or rather: doesn't work).

Sure, if a TV is broken, you might get your money from the insurance (or suing the company). But if it's something unique or sentimental?

Kanan · Apr 25, 2017

Americans are simply too cool, they don't care if their stuff gets lost or is broken or wet or something (imagining all the scenarios) :cool:

Spaceye · Apr 25, 2017

Cvrk said:
Yes. It's a pullover http://www.ebay.de/itm/ROCKGEWITTER-2in1-Pullover-schwarz-Gr-L-P8-B72-/371864011012

But how come people leave packages in front of porch and they don't get stolen ? What country/town do you live in ?

Im in USA, California.

Hmmmmmm I could use one of those but no I actually I bought this to make a custom heatsink on top of the pc instead of using the thermaltake watercooler for making lunch on the fly

Spaceye · Apr 25, 2017

Motherboard, CPU and WaterCooler in...

Huston we have a Problem...

Can someone tell me whats wrong with these pictures?

The mobo has a metal backplate and the screw holes don't align with the cooler bracket, shown in the last pic. Does the plate I'm holding in the pic replace the metal plate the Motherboard came with?

Jorge Nascimento · Apr 25, 2017

that cooler base support doesn't belong there.....
BTW what memories did you bought?

Spaceye · Apr 26, 2017

Jorge Nascimento said:
that cooler base support doesn't belong there.....
BTW what memories did you bought?

I know...I only put it there to show the holes on the Motherboard don't align with the bracket...do you take off the metal backplate on the mobo to fit the one I'm holding in my hand in the first pic do you? Or do I need to contact thermaltake to get the appropriate fitting for the mobo?

GSkill TridentZ Series 16GB DDR4 3200 CAS 14

Jorge Nascimento · Apr 26, 2017

No you place it on top. Check the instructions for the correct bracket.
What cooler do you have?
Did you check for am4 compatibility?

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AM4 Build...Any Suggestions before I buy today or tomorrow?

Grings

notb

cadaveca

My name is Dave

Totally

Mighty-Lu-Bu

notb

Spaceye

Jorge Nascimento

New Member

MxPhenom 216

ASIC Engineer

Spaceye

Cvrk

MxPhenom 216

ASIC Engineer

dir_d

jormungand

springs113

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

Jorge Nascimento

New Member

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

notb

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

Spaceye

Spaceye

Jorge Nascimento

New Member

Spaceye

Jorge Nascimento

New Member

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