Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[psyko12]

Looks good psyko, just FYI go by the core voltage SVi2 that's what is being fed to the CPU after any vDroop. As for BIOS updates, they're likely waiting to base it on the updated AGESA , it's "supposed" to make memry easier to work with. We'll see about that though.

Thanks for that tip. Will tweak further!

 

[the54thvoid]

As @the54thvoid said, once you start overclockin' you can't stop

Well after a week and a half of pullin' my hair out and tweaking things, borking and re-flashing the bios on this GA-AX370 Gaming K7, I finally landed into maybe an ok daily (real daily driver) until more bios features comes out (YEAH Gigabyte am talking about this "flaghsip" not getting any BIOS love atm *shakes fist*).

I've managed to make my xmp work with my g.skils trident zeds that are SK HYNIX single ranks (I thought it was samsung, well anyway).

Here's where am at right now:

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That's a nice voltage for that clock (in my book anyway). Your temps look high though? My core max is mid 70's at my set up and right now idles at 34 degrees @ 1.45v for 3.892Ghz.

Ambients are high teens, low 20's though.

 

[cdawall]

Anyone who uses Adobe Premier Pro should check out this video about an update that helps Ryzen's performance MUCH!

@sil3ntearth

 

[techtard]

Currently battling to get 3.9 stable. Was able to boot into Windows 7 and run Cinebench at a reasonable voltage, but Prime95 crashes after 1-2 hours.
Was able to boot into Windows and run cinebench at 4.0ghz as well, but after failing Prime @ 1.4 v on the stock cooler I decided to leave that for when I get this rig on water.

I'm really liking how this system runs, will be awesome when I finally get my clocks dialed in.

EDIT looks like I made a minor breakthrough @ 3.9ghz, finally surpassed 2hrs prime stable @ 1.325v.
Now at 3 hours. I added a 120mm fan to cool the VRMs and it also blows onto the spire cooler, looks like this has helped quite a bit. Up over 6 hours stable, things looking good.

 

[xorbe]

Motherboard arrives today, then I can tinker with this 1500X finally w/openSUSE tumbleweed. Accidentally bought a $99 Samsung 850 evo 250gb when I had a spare 128gb M4, oops. =/ Well looks like the Linux box is getting an ssd upgrade too.

edit: Well this was one of the easiest builds ever. Everything just worked without any glitches so far. Asus Prime B350M-A/CSM + latest bios, and G.Skill Fortis 2x8gb 2400.

 

[psyko12]

That's a nice voltage for that clock (in my book anyway). Your temps look high though? My core max is mid 70's at my set up and right now idles at 34 degrees @ 1.45v for 3.892Ghz.

Ambients are high teens, low 20's though.

It's summer time here aaaaaaaand a whopping high 32-40c ambient room temp.. Depends on the time of day, and I think that time when I took the screeny it was high noon. The hottest time of day here in the Philippines.
Well It doesn't go that high in games tho , highest I've seen it is when I was playing BF1 on a conquest map full server, it was high 50's -- or bordering 60 c.

Still thinking of getting a new case too atm still have Carbide 400r, planning to find a better one with better room to handel the noctua.. Or go AIO/CLC (but still debating)

 

[EntropyZ]

Update time: I tried out a Kingston 2x8 2133MHz set, it just would not clock past 2400MHz no matter what, not even in single-channel. The difference between this set and a single stick of DDR4 clocked at 2933MHz, was about 2-3FPS in Skyrim Special Edition (a game that likes higher clocks on CPU and RAM, A LOT).

The Hynix dies on that RAM are either not really compatible with Ryzen or they're just plain bad. The memory is on the QVL, but those dies on it were clearly not meant for overclocking.

From a simple single stick of 2400MHz RAM to Dual-Channel 3200MHz, I should get about 10-12FPS extra on SSE, which is a lot, considering running heavily modded bogs down the frametimes. (Only 4 thread scaling, I have never seen Skyrim or Fallout 4 max out a typical 4 core, everything is pretty much underutilized.)

 

[psyko12]

Update time: I tried out a Kingston 2x8 2133MHz set, it just would not clock past 2400MHz no matter what, not even in single-channel. The difference between this set and a single stick of DDR4 clocked at 2933MHz, was about 2-3FPS in Skyrim Special Edition (a game that likes higher clocks on CPU and RAM, A LOT).

The Hynix dies on that RAM are either not really compatible with Ryzen or they're just plain bad. The memory is on the QVL, but those dies on it were clearly not meant for overclocking.

From a simple single stick of 2400MHz RAM to Dual-Channel 3200MHz, I should get about 10-12FPS extra on SSE, which is a lot, considering running heavily modded bogs down the frametimes.

Yeah others too even with Flare X rams have had problems with hitting XMP settings, those are on QVL and is supposedly be AMD compatible (on our Gaming K7 boards). A few more days til May and we get another AGESA update which brings love to SK Hynix chips.

Source:

Forgot what time he mentioned it , but it was from an AMD spokesperson.

 

[qubit]

This should help with gaming performance, people.

http://wccftech.com/amds-new-ryzen-chipset-drivers-boost-performance-power-efficiency

 

[EntropyZ]

Going from Noctua to an CLC will push the thermal limit, but how much would someone be willing to pay to go past 3.8GHz while maintaining behind the 70c safe limit for Ryzen chips. For a few hundred MHz of OC it's not really worth it in my opinion, but if it would help keep the system temps lower, full load @ 3.8GHz, I think that might be good enough for some.

There are not a lot of CLC's available, most of the good ones with at least a 240mm rad will go for 120-150 euros in my country. Would rather spend that on a better GPU. (And! Most of those won't fit a socket AM4)

There was a sick deal on a Deepcool Maelstrom 240T for 50 euros. I wonder why they were trying to sell them out so fast.

The only thing I don't like about big air coolers is that they stick out the cpu socket. The only thing preventing me from using an AIO is their pump lifespan (remember, the only point of repair is the fan, once a water pump dies, you're dead in the water with that thing, some go as long 5 years for people, and some die within a year) and the price. An AIO with a decent pump is nowhere to be found here. The only way to get certain brand parts is to have them shipped here, which costs, a lot.

 

[psyko12]

Going from Noctua to an CLC will push the thermal limit, but how much would someone be willing to pay to go past 3.8GHz while maintaining behind the 70c safe limit for Ryzen chips. For a few hundred MHz of OC it's not really worth it in my opinion, but if it would help keep the system temps lower, full load @ 3.8GHz, I think that might be good enough for some.

There are not a lot of CLC's available, most of the good ones with at least a 240mm rad will go for 120-150 euros in my country. Would rather spend that on a better GPU. (And! Most of those won't fit a socket AM4)

There was a sick deal on a Deepcool Maelstrom 240T for 50 euros. I wonder why they were trying to sell them out so fast.

The only thing I don't like about big air coolers is that they stick out the cpu socket. The only thing preventing me from using an AIO is their pump lifespan and the price. An AIO with a decent pump is nowhere to be found here. The only way to get certain brand parts is to have them shipped here, which costs, a lot.

This noctua and I have a love hate relationship hahaha due to my tight case I had problems at times with placing in the fan when I forgot to put it in before mounting it to the board hahah scratched knuckles!
Most likely I will just stick with 3.8 and as time goes on noctua can hold the temps fine, it's just really summer time at the moment and the green features on this gigabyte board does not work when oc'd. We don't even have P-State options in here !!! Heh.

Most likely I will find a roomier case with better air cooling / air flow options, as of now my case is maxed with fans lolol.

Gawd I hate it when it's summer here.

 

[EntropyZ]

I'm all about good case airflow, especially for overclocking, ever since I made the switch from the Cooler Master HAF 912, which has a front 200mm fan, which is decent and better than 120mm fans that come with what I switched to, which was the NZXT Source 340, it was less noisy, but the airflow wasn't as good, the VRM radiator would be significantly hotter in that case. I used to OC the hell out of a Phenom II X6, and the VRMs really needed that fresh air.

So I had to make compromises when trying out the next case, and because I am budget oriented when building a computer, I went with something that has a smaller footprint in size but still has decent airflow, I opted for the ThermalTake Core V21, simply because of the price and what it offered. I can mount 2x240mm rads in this thing, I still get a case window, and I can use 2 orientations for the motherboard and it has a 200mm front fan as stock fan, I might replace it with a PWM capable one, but for now it does the job well.

I'm planning to give it a custom paintjob, since I wanted some white/black accents to make the case blend with the motherboard colors. The front full mesh looks weird to me, I preferred the S340's flat front and clean lines.

I wish there was a follow-up case to the V21, since it came out 4 years ago now. I wish I knew tempered glass cases were gonna be a thing in 2017. Really want to show off that motherboard when someone comes in and looks at the case.

 

[psyko12]

I'm all about good case airflow, especially for overclocking, ever since I made the switch from the Cooler Master HAF 912, which has a front 200mm fan, which is decent and better than 120mm fans that come with what I switched to, which was the NZXT Source 340, it was less noisy, but the airflow wasn't as good, the VRM radiator would be significantly hotter in that case. I used to OC the hell out of a Phenom II X6, and the VRMs really needed that fresh air.

So I had to make compromises when trying out the next case, and because I am budget oriented when building a computer, I went with something that has a smaller footprint in size but still has decent airflow, I opted for the ThermalTake Core V21, simply because of the price and what it offered. I can mount 2x240mm rads in this thing, I still get a case window, and I can use 2 orientations for the motherboard and it has a 200mm front fan as stock fan, I might replace it with a PWM capable one, but for now it does the job well.

I'm planning to give it a custom paintjob, since I wanted some white/black accents to make the case blend with the motherboard colors. The front full mesh looks weird to me, I preferred the S340's flat front and clean lines.

I wish there was a follow-up case to the V21, since it came out 4 years ago now. I wish I knew tempered glass cases were gonna be a thing in 2017. Really want to show off that motherboard when someone comes in and looks at the case.

Yeah, I'm budget oriented as well and I need a more air flowy case that's mid tower that can handle a huge/long gpu, and the big noctua cooler.. Looking at some corsairs or phanteks.. We'll see in a few months...

Sigh.

Just for share tho, any1 with RGB kits encounter the same issue as this guy?

^ Basically his RGB RAM's died and G.Skill told him that the SPD was altered.... Eventually after a few emails he got them to "repair" it and sent it back to him.

 

[xorbe]

No matter what voltage offset I add, my 1500X hits a wall between 3800 and 3850. So I set it to 3700 at stock voltage and called it a day.

 

[techtard]

I hit the wall at 4.0ghz with my 1600. But I'm still on the stock cooler, will make a real run at 4.0+ when I get this setup under water. Can't wait for the new Bios next month, hopefully I will get rated speeds out of my Hynix based Corsair LPX.

EDIT Looks like the new bios helps with performance, but I have been getting blackscreens. Was rock solid stable before I upgraded to 0604. Unsure if it's the ram or the cpu. This is gonna be a long night.

 

[techtard]

OK it won't let me edit my previous post to add more info so another update in this one.

Tested memory starting at stock for a few hours, no errors. Ended up testing all the way up to ~2999 on the ram again stable. But the new bios seems to require more cpu voltage to remain at 3.9ghz. I went from ~15 hrs stable @1.325V to needing 1.36250V.
Other than the extra voltage needed, the new bios is pretty good.

 

[Psychoholic]

I have to say that I'm genuinely impressed with how much more "zippy" and responsive my ryzen 1700 rig is over my 7700K rig. Gaming also feels smoother dispite lower overall FPS.

 

[toilet pepper]

It's summer time here aaaaaaaand a whopping high 32-40c ambient room temp.. Depends on the time of day, and I think that time when I took the screeny it was high noon. The hottest time of day here in the Philippines.
Well It doesn't go that high in games tho , highest I've seen it is when I was playing BF1 on a conquest map full server, it was high 50's -- or bordering 60 c.

Still thinking of getting a new case too atm still have Carbide 400r, planning to find a better one with better room to handel the noctua.. Or go AIO/CLC (but still debating)

Looks like you got the last Aorus X370 k7 from PCoptions. It was gone when I was there. I had to settle for the the Gaming 5.

 

[psyko12]

Looks like you got the last Aorus X370 k7 from PCoptions. It was gone when I was there. I had to settle for the the Gaming 5.

I didn't buy from there, I bought from Quest Logic

 

[psyko12]

FWIW. Found this shared from hwbot.

http://overclocking.guide/gigabyte-ryzen-7-overclocking-guide/

xD

EDIT: some of the voltages there way too high for my liking. But mmm not sure about some of the things they increased. Like. Cpu vdd. Need the experts to check this.

 

[f22a4bandit]

After some initial hassle, my Ryzen rig is up and running. I still need to get her dialed in, but I did get Windows installed last night before hitting the sack. I'll take a better picture later.

CPU: R5 1600 @ 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon
GPU: Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+ 8GB
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ 16GB

 

[EntropyZ]

From Ryzen discussion post that I shoddily wrote up:

Replaced my Single stick of Corsair Veng. LPX 2400MHz which clocked at 2933MHz easy to Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200MHz 2x8GB which only boots at 2666MHz measly on an R5 1600 as per Ryzen official RAM support. Slightly disappointed it didn't go at least to 2933MHz as well. All I could do is lower the voltage and tighten the timings.

These old non-Ryzen optimized DDR4 modules really suck, even though they were Samsung. No wonder they're on sale in my country right now. Corsair probably trying to get rid of old stock. These things were obviously meant for X99/Z170.

Anyone remember X99 being finicky on launch with DDR4 when it was first used?

I'm holding my breath on BIOS updates making 2933MHz possible at some point with Dual-Rank dotted PCBs. I don't know if the board is the limiting factor or most likely scenario that it is the CPU.

 

[psyko12]

For anybody who's using a Gigabyte Gaming K7 board like I do, we already have the new AGESA 1.0.0.5 up!! New Beta Bios as seen here:

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread?page=55

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I see quite a few of you who don't mind going over the supposed AMD recommended safe voltage of 1.35v, just asking as my 1600 will do 3.8@1.3v but I need around 1.36 for 3.9 stable and 1.425 for 4ghz so I think I'm leaning towards the 3.9 1.36v as a daily driver, 4.0 would be nice but not sure I would be happy with the high vcore

Also is there still no way to OC from the bios and have lower idle clocks? I know the vcore drops but it would be nice to lower the clocks as well without using software OC

 

[the54thvoid]

I see quite a few of you who don't mind going over the supposed AMD recommended safe voltage of 1.35v, just asking as my 1600 will do 3.8@1.3v but I need around 1.36 for 3.9 stable and 1.425 for 4ghz so I think I'm leaning towards the 3.9 1.36v as a daily driver, 4.0 would be nice but not sure I would be happy with the high vcore

Also is there still no way to OC from the bios and have lower idle clocks? I know the vcore drops but it would be nice to lower the clocks as well without using software OC

You need to mes around (at some length) with P-states. @Johan45 might be able to point you in the right direction.