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Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.
Yes I agree, I'll definitely try updating the firmware and reinstalling first because I'm not really within budget for a new SSD right now.

What did you mean when you said ''write zeros on the SSD''?
low level format.
 
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That explains your SSD, but what about the GPU?
Is it in a PCIe-16*2 or 16*3 slot, is it thermal throttling?
 
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That explains your SSD, but what about the GPU?
Is it in a PCIe-16*2 or 16*3 slot, is it thermal throttling?

You mean I should worry about the GPU as well? I was thinking that perhaps it was normal since the GPU is relatively old-ish compared with today's cards (released in 2012) :confused:

My motherboard has 2 PCIE x 16 running at x16 and 2 PCIE x 16 running at x8. It's definitely in the correct (former) slot.
 
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It's a weird story really. So I was having these random crashes, but only while browsing the net and never while playing Fallout 4 which ran as smooth as butter.
To cut it short, I ran memtest and found a bad stick.

Then all of a sudden, Fallout 4 started stuttering a lot. The reason isn't because I have 8GB RAM now instead of 12GB because the game used to run fine even when I only had 6GB a couple of months ago.

I was thinking there was still some problem with the new RAM so I searched for RAM benchmarking programs... and found the one I posted about in my first post.
Okay, when I start seeing multiple, unexpected, and apparently unrelated hardware issues, I immediately suspect power. Because EVERYTHING inside the case depends on good clean stable power, I recommend swapping in a known good power supply before committing to buying anything else so you can at least, rule out power as the cause.

What did you mean when you said ''write zeros on the SSD''?
You don't do that with SSDs. That's what a "wipe" program does with a hard drive to obliterate any potential "residual magnetism" representing data left on the platters. SSDs don't use magnetic particles. And because of the way TRIM and wear leveling work, you don't "wipe" SSDs because wear leveling will prevent each and every storage location from being over written. So you use the secure erase if you need to ensure no data is left behind.
Not really, only Windows Memory Diagnostic, memtest and the one I started this thread with, which made me check the S.M.A.R.T. of my SSD...
Windows Memory Diagnostic and Memtest are not benchmark programs. They don't measure, they just test each memory location to ensure data can be saved at that location without losing integrity. SMART does not benchmark either. And of course, SMART is only for hard drives, not SSDs.

Do note that no software based memory tester is 100% conclusive. If they find bad RAM, the RAM is bad. But they don't always identify bad sticks. To conclusively test your RAM, you need to use sophisticated and very expensive test equipment, like this $4,400 RAMCheck LX Memory Tester. So the R & R (remove and replace) method different sticks is what most of us are stuck with.

BTW, as for 3rd party memory testers, do make sure you are using MemTest86 by PassMark and not one of the other similarly named testers. MemTest86 is the one that still has a development team keeping it current with the latest RAM technologies.

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You didn't look did you.
Yes, I looked and as I said, your System Specs mean nothing - other than the fact you lack an understanding of the value of benchmark programs. Once again, they establish a "benchmark" or a "baseline" - a "reference point" used to determine a starting point with which to compare with another reading at a later date to determine if or how much something has changed, and in which direction. They are very valuable tools, in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. So IMO, your last entry is unfounded, misguided and certainly out of line.
 
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Is it normal to get such a low score for my graphics card and SSD?

You mean I should worry about the GPU as well? I was thinking that perhaps it was normal since the GPU is relatively old-ish compared with today's cards (released in 2012) :confused:
That Benchmark rates like for like, it will only rate your GPU based against others the same, not different or newer models.
Compared to over 11,000 other cards of the same model yours is performing very poorly.
 
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Compared to over 11,000 other cards of the same model yours is performing very poorly.
Wait! Are you sure that means compared to 11,000 other "GTX 670 4GB" cards? This would suggest that 11,000 is for all cards, not jut the GTX 670.
 

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I'll give you a hint. Any benchmark that claims to test all of those things and does it in under 2 minutes, is not an accurate benchmark.

If you want to benchmark your CPU, get a CPU benchmark. If you want to benchmark your GPU, get a GPU benchmark. If you want to benchmark your HDD/SSD, get a storage benchmark.
Rubbish, I just want one that does my "computer". :p
 
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Wait! Are you sure that means compared to 11,000 other "GTX 670 4GB" cards? This would suggest that 11,000 is for all cards, not jut the GTX 670.
Yep, after having a look and comparing figures it looks like over 11,000 gtx670's were benched.
 
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Well, again, that's not what is suggested via this link from my last post which looks to be the same benchmarking program. Via that link, it would seem her card is performing right in line, that is normally compared to other GTX 670 cards but that all GTX 670 cards perform in the ~39 percentile compared to all cards tested.

If her card is only performing 39% as well as all other GTX 670 cards, there is clearly something wrong with the card.
 

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crappy benchmark software is crappy
use 3d mark /atto benchmark
not much point in benching such a old system tho time for a upgrade bp
 
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Well, again, that's not what is suggested via this link from my last post which looks to be the same benchmarking program. Via that link, it would seem her card is performing right in line, that is normally compared to other GTX 670 cards but that all GTX 670 cards perform in the ~39 percentile compared to all cards tested.

If her card is only performing 39% as well as all other GTX 670 cards, there is clearly something wrong with the card.
Read that correctly and the low figure you are looking it is user votes, not number of cards benched.
 
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....not much point in benching such a old system tho time for a upgrade bp
Perfectly good board for crunching on, just needs a XEON slapped in away she goes.
 
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Read that correctly and the low figure you are looking it is user votes, not number of cards benched.
Right. I agree. But I don't believe you are interpreting that correctly. It is user votes for all cards, not just GTX 670 cards as you are suggesting. Otherwise, how do explain the Average Bench of 38.7% (47th of 540) shown on that link?
 

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Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.
Okay, when I start seeing multiple, unexpected, and apparently unrelated hardware issues, I immediately suspect power. Because EVERYTHING inside the case depends on good clean stable power, I recommend swapping in a known good power supply before committing to buying anything else so you can at least, rule out power as the cause.

You don't do that with SSDs. That's what a "wipe" program does with a hard drive to obliterate any potential "residual magnetism" representing data left on the platters. SSDs don't use magnetic particles. And because of the way TRIM and wear leveling work, you don't "wipe" SSDs because wear leveling will prevent each and every storage location from being over written. So you use the secure erase if you need to ensure no data is left behind.
Windows Memory Diagnostic and Memtest are not benchmark programs. They don't measure, they just test each memory location to ensure data can be saved at that location without losing integrity. SMART does not benchmark either. And of course, SMART is only for hard drives, not SSDs.

Do note that no software based memory tester is 100% conclusive. If they find bad RAM, the RAM is bad. But they don't always identify bad sticks. To conclusively test your RAM, you need to use sophisticated and very expensive test equipment, like this $4,400 RAMCheck LX Memory Tester. So the R & R (remove and replace) method different sticks is what most of us are stuck with.

BTW, as for 3rd party memory testers, do make sure you are using MemTest86 by PassMark and not one of the other similarly named testers. MemTest86 is the one that still has a development team keeping it current with the latest RAM technologies.

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Yes, I looked and as I said, your System Specs mean nothing - other than the fact you lack an understanding of the value of benchmark programs. Once again, they establish a "benchmark" or a "baseline" - a "reference point" used to determine a starting point with which to compare with another reading at a later date to determine if or how much something has changed, and in which direction. They are very valuable tools, in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. So IMO, your last entry is unfounded, misguided and certainly out of line.
Makes sense. Run as many benchmarks as you can. Run all the benchmarks. Don't run individual benchmarks or tests of specific hardware that's been proven to work. Definitely don't use the manufacturers software. No go to your nearest coupon site and hit whatever "download now" button is flashing. It will benchmark your whole computer. Make sure you enter your phone number so the nice Indian tech support can call you and let you know how many errors are in your event viewer. Chances are you have a virus and some illegal porn on your HD that's causing the stuttering. The Indian tech support will have to log in of course and once they clean it up for a 400 dollars. After that you should be good to go.

Right. I agree. But I don't believe you are interpreting that correctly. It is user votes for all cards, not just GTX 670 cards as you are suggesting. Otherwise, how do explain the Average Bench of 38.7% (47th of 540) shown on that link?

Because its a pointless bench?
 
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Makes sense. Run as many benchmarks as you can. Run all the benchmarks.

Because its a pointless bench?
:kookoo:

Of course, I never said anything of the sort.

Enjoy your fantasy. The only pointless thing here is further discussion with you. Have a good day.
 
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Makes sense. Run as many benchmarks as you can. Run all the benchmarks. Don't run individual benchmarks or tests of specific hardware that's been proven to work. Definitely don't use the manufacturers software. No go to your nearest coupon site and hit whatever "download now" button is flashing. It will benchmark your whole computer. Make sure you enter your phone number so the nice Indian tech support can call you and let you know how many errors are in your event viewer. Chances are you have a virus and some illegal porn on your HD that's causing the stuttering. The Indian tech support will have to log in of course and once they clean it up for a 400 dollars. After that you should be good to go.

Ha ha that was awesome. OK I wasn't really worrying about my GPU but now that you and others are mentioning it I'll run Furmark and see how my card compares with other 670 GTX 4GB... And if it goes badly I'm gonna freak out and throw this 5 year old build in the rubbish bin :banghead:

Which makes sense in a way... RAM.... SSD... GPU... everything seems going KO one component after another! So what's next now? o_O
 

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Ha ha that was awesome. OK I wasn't really worrying about my GPU but now that you and others are mentioning it I'll run Furmark and see how my card compares with other 670 GTX 4GB... And if it goes badly I'm gonna freak out and throw this 5 year old build in the rubbish bin :banghead:

Which makes sense in a way... RAM.... SSD... GPU... everything seems going KO one component after another! So what's next now? o_O
the system is fine crap benchmark is crap old card is old >_>
you should know by now to take anything said by a user with less then 1000 posts with a grain of salt >)
 

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I hear tpu is giving away anouther kreij memorial pc you should go throw your hat in
 
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HARDWARE DOES NOT GET SLOWER WITH AGE
At least with digital electronics which require tight tolerances, this is true. As devices age, they slip out of tolerance. With analog devices, they just get weaker. But with digital devices, once allowed tolerances are exceeded, the various regulation/compensation circuits can no long keep "clocks" at the correct setting and the device simply stops working.

However, that 1989 486 computer will slow down over time if kept updated because operating systems, applications, and especially security programs have become such huge resource hogs, older hardware cannot keep pace. Remember when 32MB of RAM was "more than you will ever need"?
 
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sudden reductions in performance ARE 99.99% of the time never hardware failure
HARDWARE DOES NOT GET SLOWER WITH AGE
A 486 Will still perform the way a 486 did in 1989

I was not meaning that when discussing my GPU. I meant that being 5 years old it would be very slow when compared with this year's releases.

A couple of years ago I had restored an old 486 running Win 95.. and probably 256Mb ram or so. The pc was so snappy, weren't it a PITA to connect to the net and to get USB to work it would have functioned fine as an office pc.

Anyway, let me get furmark and run a test... will post results later unless my pc catches fire or something ;)
 
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Furmark test:





Anyway I had it running at more than 10 minutes at these settings.

The screenshot is 8MB and imgur doesn't seem to want to cooperate...

http://imgur.com/a/jlZMa
 
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so we're talking ssd errors, memory stick errors, and possible gpu? That's a lot for 1 rig. Luckily memory has lifetime warranties so just RMA that. The ssd Mailman already detailed, and the gpu survived a stress test so maybe that's just residual from the ssd?

All in all it might be time to start saving for a platform update (mobo, memory, cpu, gpu, HD)

I think my gpu is dying as well. 3 years old and the game specific artifacts are beginning. Figure I'll replace it in June/July. I think I can nurse it until then. Will likely double my memory while I'm at it.
 
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Ok don't panic. (snip)

Just did it.

Pc is definitely snappier, no mouse lag while browsing and fonts are now appearing immediately when I type in the search bar.

Now for the crucial moment - FO4 is 85.6GB of download and I'll be ready to test that out within 22 hours from now after it downloads from Steam).

(Because obviously a clean install of Win 10 didn't make my internet connection any faster :laugh: )

I still have the old 6GB kit in my pc, now if all goes fine and my games don't stutter I'll put back the 8GB (which will go up to 12GB after I get the bad RAM stick back from rma)
 
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