AMD Announces Radeon Vega Frontier Edition - Not for Gamers

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

I don't know about you guys but for me the Blue VEGA Frontier Edition pretty much is the ugliest looking graphics card I have ever seen.
RX VEGA probably has half the HBM memory, but something is obviously problem at the red team unable to deliver VEGA volume in time resorting in *limited edition pro card launch. Niche product is all good and well, but AMD needs the next thing for the gaming masses or NVIDIA can cash cow yet another holiday season.

 

[RejZoR]

Couple of things 520w was dramatized that was actual power draw and it was enough that I had to go from my 750w platinum seasonic to a 1200w for stability.

Raja himself said that two 480's was more efficient than a 1080.

How do you get 520W from 2x 150W cards. Either you're shit at math or you're bending laws of physics. Because of that PCIe power draw scandal, it has been measured over and over and it's in fact 150W consumption. So, where you get those 520W is beyond me...

 

[Deleted member 50521]

AMD can totally wait until Q4 to release the Vega to compete with mid-range Volta 1160. It all make sense now. They probably never intended to let Vega be a top end card. Vega may end up just like Polaris, battling the xx60 of volta.

 

[Nokiron]

How do you get 520W from 2x 150W cards. Either you're shit at math or you're bending laws of physics. Because of that PCIe power draw scandal, it has been measured over and over and it's in fact 150W consumption. So, where you get those 520W is beyond me...

Or you know, it could be option number three. He was not using reference RX480s. When I used my Nitro+ I was pulling 80W+ more than a stock RX480 without overclocking.

 

[efikkan]

AMD can totally wait until Q4 to release the Vega to compete with mid-range Volta 1160. It all make sense now. They probably never intended to let Vega be a top end card. Vega may end up just like Polaris, battling the xx60 of volta.

There will be no consumer versions of Volta anytime soon.
Currently, AMD is only competitive in the low-end, they really need to have some decent mid-range chips with high volume sales.

 

[cdawall]

How do you get 520W from 2x 150W cards. Either you're shit at math or you're bending laws of physics. Because of that PCIe power draw scandal, it has been measured over and over and it's in fact 150W consumption. So, where you get those 520W is beyond me...

efficiency curve, overclocking, additional voltage, etc.

Or you know, it could be option number three. He was not using reference RX480s. When I used my Nitro+ I was pulling 80W+ more than a stock RX480 without overclocking.

Thank you for answering this for me...I don't know how many times I have to state "overclocked", alas I guess one more.

 

[RejZoR]

Graphic cards have never been more efficient per performance delivered and everyone is freaking out like there is no tomorrow. That's why. Overclocked or not. We've had cards that delivered half the performance for twice the power consumption and it was like "raised brow a bit". But here it's "OH MAH GOD IT'S LA TERRIBLÉ" That's why I don't understand any of you whining here.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

ReJzor you should totally get a Vega FE when it id available and bench it youself to shut up all the "haters"

Im counting on ya!

There will be no consumer versions of Volta anytime soon.
Currently, AMD is only competitive in the low-end, they really need to have some decent mid-range chips with high volume sales.

Sounds about right, AMD is more for low end ~ ultra low end.

 

[cdawall]

Graphic cards have never been more efficient per performance delivered and everyone is freaking out like there is no tomorrow. That's why. Overclocked or not. We've had cards that delivered half the performance for twice the power consumption and it was like "raised brow a bit". But here it's "OH MAH GOD IT'S LA TERRIBLÉ" That's why I don't understand any of you whining here.

I knew the 480's pulled some juice when I purchased them, however I did not exactly plan for them to pull 260 watts a pop. I have had some power hungry cards in the past (290, furys, fermi etc) power consumption doesn't bother me so much as the performance lack in comparison. I was also immensely disappointed in the GTX 1070 after testing.

This is also colored by fighting those cards for almost a year. Issue after issue with drawing too much juice through the board, running too hot (even stock) for crossfire use) etc. When they worked they easily equaled a 1080 even with some overclock on it, but that didn't translate to every game.

 

[RejZoR]

Hot were only reference models. The aftermarket ones were fine in terms of thermals and noise.

 

[cdawall]

Hot were only reference models. The aftermarket ones were fine in terms of thermals and noise.

Put two of them in a MATX case and tell me how that goes. Again you haven't got one, let alone two of these cards. I actually owned them, tested with the super low wattage RX480 RS models from XFX that actually pulled less power than reference as well as my Nitro+ cards that are on the other end of that. I also tested with clockspeeds in the 1480mhz realm which is to 5-10% of RX480's on air. They were hot, load and power hungry. I quite honestly don't know what you are arguing you don't even have the cards?

 

[RejZoR]

Put two Saturn V rockets in a shed and tell me how that goes. Yes, you're over dramatizing. Over and over and over. When only thing you keep bringing up is CrossfireX and some ridiculous tiny case scenarios, you're really grasping at straws here. People who buy these things generally have at least midi tower and they pretty much never crossfire them. C'mon, one would expect out of all people you'd be the one to know these things.

I do have GTX 980 which is essentially the same thing. And when it's overclocked it's scorching hot and also becomes noisy. Performance projections are about the same.

 

[cdawall]

Put two Saturn V rockets in a shed and tell me how that goes. Yes, you're over dramatizing. Over and over and over. When only thing you keep bringing up is CrossfireX and some ridiculous tiny case scenarios, you're really grasping at straws here. People who buy these things generally have at least midi tower and they pretty much never crossfire them. C'mon, one would expect out of all people you'd be the one to know these things.

I do have GTX 980 which is essentially the same thing. And when it's overclocked it's scorching hot and also becomes noisy. Performance projections are about the same.

520w is 520w's. That isn't a question that actually happens.

They were fine in my larger matxish. They draw more power than the 980 both oc'd and there are plenty of people who run crossfire. That isn't rare, that isn't new.

The cards weren't quiet when new, or if set to the silent bios they throttled the whole time. The same issue all of them have faced. Owners of them know this.

 

[eidairaman1]

Link from rtg if not the same.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1704484156511581&id=1622923754667622

 

[medi01]

Depending on the card they are loud under load,

No, they aren't, in fact, most AIB 580's are quieter than 1060s
It only consumes much on stock voltage and comes with unique driver features ("chill") that can cut power consumption by two thirds.

Not that 40-80W of total power consumptions mattered in this context.

AMD can totally wait until Q4 to release the Vega to compete with mid-range Volta 1160. It all make sense now. They probably never intended to let Vega be a top end card. Vega may end up just like Polaris, battling the xx60 of volta.

Because 1060 can take on 980Ti, right?
Let me remind you citation of one of the TPU users: "OC 1080 vs my OC 980Ti is only 11% faster".
/sigh

Wild expectations from Volta, when we got barely better perf/$ from Pascal, which was a MONSTROUS process jump previous gen, eh?

I recall nintendo Switch expectations were even crazier, it was supposed to beat PS4/Xbone (yey), cause, you know, reality distortion field many team green users live in.
Oh, it ended up a tad faster than WiiU.

 

[cdawall]

No, they aren't, in fact, most AIB 580's are quieter than 1060s
It only consumes much on stock voltage and comes with unique driver features ("chill") that can cut power consumption by two thirds.

Not that 40-80W of total power consumptions mattered in this context.

The 480 has that same feature. Let me tell you how well it worked

Also which AIB card specifically are we talking here... Quite a few models with overclocks were a lot more than 40-80w but then again even 40-80 watts is over half the consumption of a 1060

Edit:

Looks like over 100w in games, louder than the reference 1060 as well. All while just barely edgying it out in gaming performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/28.html

 

[medi01]

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04...-bios-test/2/#abschnitt_lautstaerke__kuehlung

The 480 has that same feature. Let me tell you how well it worked

Tell me.