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Why wouldn't this work?



If I'm right you could just use a wheel ;)
 

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Perpetual Motion does not work ( not on our level of science)
Even light beams run out of motion eventualy
 
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The USPTO (US Patent and Trade Office) requires a working prototype of a device when one of the patent claims for the device is "perpetual motion"

That AFAIK, is the ONLY instance where the USPTO requires a working prototype. To date, they have never received a working prototype of any such device.

If you can build it and it works, then by all means, patent it ;)
 
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Just simply the conservation of energy. The output cannot exceed the input. Even if you were to put that device in a vacuum. There would still be energy lost eventually stopping it.
 

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Perpetual Motion does not work ( not on our level of science)
Even light beams run out of motion eventualy
It works in my Rolex watch :D
 
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Rather than simply pointing out that this is impossible I'll describe why. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but as a kid I worked on a magnetic perpetual motion machine. It never worked of course.

Despite this design using magnets, that wouldn't actually matter as this is more of a gravity based machine very similar to the "Overbalanced Wheel" design. It relies on there being more weight on one side than the other thanks to one belt running faster than the other via a gear ratio. However the gear ratio meant to speed up the left belt also reduces the torque, so there is less lifting force. As it happens the ratio between the right belt and the left belt will be the same as the number of balls on the right side vs the left side.

Thus on assembly this design would quickly bring itself into balance (if it wasn't there already) and stop.
 
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It works in my Rolex watch :D

LOL, I inherited a Submariner, they are miraculous.

My Dad had a really nice self winding Omega. He was wearing it when using an orbital sander, that spelled the end of that watch.
 

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Just simply the conservation of energy. The output cannot exceed the input. Even if you were to put that device in a vacuum. There would still be energy lost eventually stopping it.
This, which manifests as this...
Friction.
...also drag (wind resistance) and Newton's Third Law of Motion ("When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.")

Specifically, your point of failure will be that pulley in the center. It's going to take a *lot* of torque to spin that. Since you presumably have to overcome Newton's Third Law yourself with an initial push, drag and friction will cause conservation of energy to rear its ugly head. That pulley will eventually grind to a halt because of the gearing ratio putting it back in Newton's Third Law territory.
 
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To reduce friction....simple just put the KFC gravy as lubricant.
 

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Perpetual motion is easy to achieve ... if you only use theoritical, perfect systems, unrelated to reality.
 
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Reminds me of magnet projects on youtube.
 

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This thread has run its course- OP can PM me if he wants to discuss.
 
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