New Ryzen build, how to increase RAM from 2133 bios default

[NdMk2o1o]

I tried XMP but it didnt seem to like that, how do people go about increasing their RAM speeds, just literally change the speed and timings manually? are there any other voltages/settings I need to be looking at?

Also I have installed the AMD chipset drivers that include the AMD power plan but I don't have the option to use the AMD Ryzen balanced power plan, I only have the standard balanced, power saver and high performance..

 

[infrared]

how do people go about increasing their RAM speeds, just literally change the speed and timings manually? are there any other voltages/settings I need to be looking at?

Yes and Yes. It won't have liked XMP because that ram doesn't use the samsung B chips, so it likely won't want to run at it's rated speed. It might do when the new bioses are out with the agesa update.

You need to manually set the frequency, timings and dram voltage to what the sticker says, if it doesn't want to work try the next speed down.

You could also try upping these to see if it helps.
SoC voltage to 1.1-1.15v to see if that helps (put it back to auto if it doesn't help),
1.8V PLL can also be bumped to, 2.0v is fine but you should only need ~1.9v.

I'm not sure about the power plan part, there's not a thing that says additional power plans is there?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Yes and Yes. It won't have liked XMP because that ram doesn't use the samsung B chips, so it likely won't want to run at it's rated speed. It might do when the new bioses are out with the agesa update.

You need to manually set the frequency, timings and dram voltage to what the sticker says, if it doesn't want to work try the next speed down.

You could also try upping these to see if it helps.
SoC voltage to 1.1-1.15v to see if that helps (put it back to auto if it doesn't help),
1.8V PLL can also be bumped to, 2.0v is fine but you should only need ~1.9v.

I'm not sure about the power plan part, there's not a thing that says additional power plans is there?

it's running 2666 now, I need to try and get the timings down a bit I think as they are currently 16.18.18, doesn't like 3000 using auto voltage and timings, I may bump the 1.8v PLL to 1.9+ and see if that helps, what's a safe max voltage for ddr4? my 3000 XMP profile is 1.35 with the lower 2800 XMP and standard jedec timings are 1.2v, guess if 1.35v is fine for 3000 I have a bit of room there also.

Nothing in additional power plans apart from high performance but from screenshots I have seen there should be an AMD Ryzen Balanced plan or something along those lines, afaik there was a good 5-10% improvement vs the standard Windows plans.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Did you restart windows after you installed the power plan drivers? I think windows only shows 2 plans and you have to hit the "Show additional plans" to see more of them, if you still dont see it make a custom plan. I think the only setting that matters is the 90% minimum processor state.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Did you restart windows after you installed the power plan drivers? I think windows only shows 2 plans and you have to hit the "Show additional plans" to see more of them, if you still dont see it make a custom plan. I think the only setting that matters is the 90% minimum processor state.

Of course I have restarted it since, there is an additional plan called high performance but I was under the impression it was called AMD Ryzen Balanced Power Plan such as:

Mine just says balanced, power saver and high performance.

P.S RAM is running at 2933 17.18.18 now, also increased pll voltage to 1.9

 

[Final_Fighter]

Did you restart windows after you installed the power plan drivers? I think windows only shows 2 plans and you have to hit the "Show additional plans" to see more of them, if you still dont see it make a custom plan. I think the only setting that matters is the 90% minimum processor state.

ya, i believe all they changed in original balanced plan was minimum processor state to 90%. id try reinstalling them to see if it shows up. make sure you have them selected.

 

[HTC]

I tried XMP but it didnt seem to like that, how do people go about increasing their RAM speeds, just literally change the speed and timings manually? are there any other voltages/settings I need to be looking at?

Also I have installed the AMD chipset drivers that include the AMD power plan but I don't have the option to use the AMD Ryzen balanced power plan, I only have the standard balanced, power saver and high performance..

Have you tried the baby steps approach?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Have you tried the baby steps approach?

I did as I mentioned I haven't OC anything just wanted to get my RAM running at it's rated speed which it now is albeit with slightly looser timings.

ya, i believe all they changed in original balanced plan was minimum processor state to 90%. id try reinstalling them to see if it shows up. make sure you have them selected.

Yea I'm doing a clean uninstall/reinstall now, like a knob I downloaded the "all in 1" driver from the Asrock website then went and downloaded the chipset drivers from AMD there was probably some conflicting going on somewhere, I'll see how I get on just installing the latest ones from AMD. And I'm sure they changed more than that as it addresses the issue of when cores are parked and then become active there was an added latency which affected performance that the Ryzen balanced power plan fixed hence the performance improvement across the board.

Edit: Still no AMD Ryzen balanced plan with clean uninstall and reinstall, think I'll just modify the existing one :/

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

For reference, power plans are located here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\User\PowerSchemes

If there any corruption its there.

Also, this thread on Win10 forums will kind help with adding your own power options to the right click menu. If you should need help, Brink there is a great mod and will customize a menu for you, which he did for me.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

For reference, power plans are located here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\User\PowerSchemes

Also, this thread on Win10 forums will kind help with adding your own power options to the right click menu. If you should need help, Brink there is a great mod and will customize a menu for you, which he did for me.

Thanks, however after the 3rd time of installing chipset drivers it has decided to appear... I do think it was some kind of a conflict with the all in 1 driver I downloaded from Asrock and the latest chipset drivers from AMD. So now I have 2933mhz RAM and the better performing power plan! I may try and shoot for 3200mhz and see how I get on then apply a conservative 3.8ghz OC and call it a day!

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I do like my right click(desktop) to change power plans on the fly.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I do like my right click(desktop) to change power plans on the fly.

Didn't know you could do this but a quick google search and I downloaded a regedit cmd and whaddya know? change power plans with a right click on the desktop edit: although the AMD Ryzen balanced plan isn't available this way so kind of defeats the purpose as it would mainly be this I would be switching to and from you can also stick it to the start menu which saves me pressing windows and start typing power every time.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Didn't know you could do this but a quick google search and I downloaded a regedit cmd and whaddya know? change power plans with a right click on the desktop edit: although the AMD Ryzen balanced plan isn't available this way so kind of defeats the purpose as it would mainly be this I would be switching to and from you can also stick it to the start menu which saves me pressing windows and start typing power every time.

That what i was talking about adding in a custom plan to that menu. if you read that thread it kind says in there how to do it, or you can post and maybe brink will customize the menu and add the Ryzen plan. Or, again, OR , I can send you my reg exported key for this, if you wanna figure it out yourself.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

That what i was talking about adding in a custom plan to that menu. if you read that thread it kind says in there how to do it, or you can post and maybe brink will customize the menu and add the Ryzen plan. Or, again, OR , I can send you my reg exported key for this, if you wanna figure it out yourself.

Thanks but I think now that I have lowered the minimum processor state in AMD's Ryzen balanced plan to 20% and it throttles down without parking the cores (unlike the standard windows balanced plan), I don't think I'll be changing the plans regularly anyway

 

[eidairaman1]

Bios updates are a must, iirc asrock has beta zone stuff, i just read in a max pc article certain 350 boards wont oc past 2133 at the moment.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Thanks but I think now that I have lowered the minimum processor state in AMD's Ryzen balanced plan to 20% and it throttles down without parking the cores (unlike the standard windows balanced plan), I don't think I'll be changing the plans regularly anyway

I do, when I'm gaming, that sets CPU low to 80% (stuttering was too obvious in one game to be allowed any lower) and a few other settings too, when not gaming simple click to go into the power saving profile.