WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

[Silvertigo]

Assistance Required Please!

So I bought an unused X58-UD4P and an used X5670 from ebay for some crunching fun

Before I bought the mobo I quickly researched if the X56xx xeons were OK with the board, which it is after updating the bios to the latest known - all very simple and obvious stuff.

So I paid the seller and proceeded to do some more research on my newly acquired toy to discover that these particular boards will only overclock X56xx chips to 3.3ghz

Although I have searched long and hard for a work-around, Ive had no luck.

If anyone has any suggestions, even if I have to do some soldering, I`m all ears.

I was really hoping to be able to crunch at the highest OC possible with this board.

 

[Norton]

these particular boards will only overclock X56xx chips to 3.3ghz

Multiplier overclock? X58 boards overclock mostly with bus speed iirc

 

[Caring1]

3.3GHz is the standard Turbo Boost of those chips. (on one core)
From this review:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/Gigabyte-GA-EX58-UD4P-review#tr-review-summary
You need to "disable Intel Turbo Boost when you overclock"
And according to our own site here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/

 

[Silvertigo]

Others have reported that they cannot go past 150 base clock with the X56xx xeons and also cannot perform restarts.

I cannot find out for myself until my new PSU and cooler arrive sometime this week.

I have sunk a little bit of money into this little project, hence my uneasiness from what I`m reading...maybe I should have a beer and relax- and stop believing everything I read on the internets

Decided to PM the guy in the below old FS thread, maybe he knows more.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1205876&highlight=EX58-UD4P

Quick reply!

Hey,

Been a while so I can't remember it all 100%

I was not using the exact same CPU as you've mentioned but basically.

1. Can't do any reboots - any attempt to restart the system would fail, it'd just get stuck after turning off, so you'd have to completely turn the PC off and back on again. Very annoying when installing Windows etc.

2. CPU would just lock after certain frequency/multi - To get the max overclock I ended up figuring out as high as I could possibly push the CPU via the BIOS, and then inside Windows I could push the CPU higher than where it'd normally lock in the BIOS - by applying an OC profile using gigabyte easytune.

Hopefully you won't face these issues! In any case let me know how you go as I'm curious.

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3.3GHz is the standard Turbo Boost of those chips. (on one core)
From this review:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/Gigabyte-GA-EX58-UD4P-review#tr-review-summary
You need to "disable Intel Turbo Boost when you overclock"
And according to our own site here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/

Thanks for the info, its the compatability between the UD4P mobo and the Westmere Xeons whilst overclocking that I`m concerned about not how to OC.

The above TPU X58 guide is excellent, I have read it front to back many times

Since the weekend I now have an Saber X58 crunching as we speak @ 3.98ghz / 1.28v / X5670 temps around 45-50

But hey, its a sabertooth, I`m sure a 10 year old kid could OC one these, amazing boards.

 

[Caring1]

@CAPSLOCKSTUCK care to weigh in with your experiences?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

@CAPSLOCKSTUCK care to weigh in with your experiences?

@Silvertigo

i havent owned your particular board but i reckon you should be able to replicate these settings. i prefer using 22x multi and lowering bus for lower temps for every day. At the moment im using
22 x 193 for 4.254ghz

 

[Silvertigo]

At the moment im using
22 x 193 for 4.254ghz

Thanks for chiming in Caps, thats a nice speed to be crunching at.

I`ve never made it past 4.0 without errors appearing amongst my WU`s -

I`ll be happy if can crunch at 3.8 on minimal voltage with the UD4P.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Six core with a pair of 980Ti cards.

View attachment 88561

So you're running 12 threads of WCG on a 12 threaded system AND running 2 x GTX 980 Ti's F@H?
If that is the case, that will hurt PPD for both WCG and F@H. You need to give F@H some threads, at least one each for those GPU's, but most likely 3-4 threads in total. I recently found that I needed 3 threads for 2 GTX 980's on a 2600K system.

 

[Silvertigo]

Worst fears confirmed! I cant even install Win7 with my X5670 and GA-X58-UD4P mobo, system cannot restart during install.

CPUID from bios is trying to tell me I have an i7 970x in the socket, and is also reporting a clock speed of 2.00ghz at default bios.

Without touching any settings in the bios , after manual restarts I get warnings that my overclocked failed...wtf?...lol

Tried to set the default speeds for the chip, no luck. Tested with an i7 950, installed Win7 no problems, bios recognizes the cpu, correct speed etc,

so I am atleast happy the board is functioning fine.

Found a cheap asus p6t vanilla mobo for the chip, so time to move on from this one. Live and learn.

Thanks to those who helped

 

[Caring1]

Worst fears confirmed! I cant even install Win7 with my X5670 and GA-X58-UD4P mobo, system cannot restart during install.
Without touching any settings in the bios , after manual restarts I get warnings that my overclocked failed...wtf?...lol
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I have the X58 UD3R with a X5670 installed and running under W7.
I shut mine down to boot in to the BIOS to compare, and I had to force shut down, then I got the same error message in the BIOS re boot failure due to a failed overclock etc.
At least mine sees the X5670 and once in Windows runs fine.
Perhaps the BIOS needs to be updated.

 

[Silvertigo]

Perhaps the BIOS needs to be updated.

There are 2 beta bios updates after the last stable vers. F13, and as far as I can discover through
the myriad of x58 forums out there, these beta`s never included an micropdate / added compatability for X56xx`s.

I really don`t want to flash a perfectly good board with beta bios`s - unless I have at least
a scrap of evidence it may help my cause.

I haven`t even found one post where a user has claimed they have the same board (rev 1.0) and were running X56xx chips overclocked
Though theres atleast half a dozen posts of people giving up.

No point in flogging a dead horse I reckon.

Although there are some vague posts about cross flashing the board, they lead to a dead end each time.

Heres the replacement board for the X5670 ->
Just finished re-applying paste to the southbridge chip (coz things are going to get real toasty soon)



Asus P6T

 

[Boatvan]

Uh oh boys, I may have been pushing my Gaming PC too hard with crunching. I walked by my home office this evening and noticed it was off. Looking at the logs, she rebooted several times (unexpectedly) throughout the day before shutting down completely. It has been untouched for the duration of the challenge up until now. My issue is that no thermal events are listed in the logs, but unexpected shutdowns are. I am taking her off crunching duty for a while and will monitor for more shutdowns.

 

[Norton]

Uh oh boys, I may have been pushing my Gaming PC too hard with crunching. I walked by my home office this evening and noticed it was off. Looking at the logs, she rebooted several times (unexpectedly) throughout the day before shutting down completely. It has been untouched for the duration of the challenge up until now. My issue is that no thermal events are listed in the logs, but unexpected shutdowns are. I am taking her off crunching duty for a while and will monitor for more shutdowns.

What kind of psu are you running in it?

 

[Boatvan]

What kind of psu are you running in it?

Corsair TX 650. I was running 100% utilization on all but one thread for about a week and a half. Last challenge wasn't an issue, but that is pushing it pretty hard no?

 

[Boatvan]

I have to laugh about this. I noticed one of my other rigs was down. I went into the kitchen and noticed the stove clock was reset and blinking. The power must have blipped just enough to shut them down. I would have noticed earlier if my server was down but it is set to automatically power back on. As for the reboots, there were updates installed on on my gaming rig earlier that day. So false alarm. I am still going to revert to pre-challenge output on my gaming PC because I want to play some games.

 

[Norton]

I have to laugh about this. I noticed one of my other rigs was down. I went into the kitchen and noticed the stove clock was reset and blinking. The power must have blipped just enough to shut them down. I would have noticed earlier if my server was down but it is set to automatically power back on. As for the reboots, there were updates installed on on my gaming rig earlier that day. So false alarm. I am still going to revert to pre-challenge output on my gaming PC because I want to play some games.

Thanks for the update!

This reminded me to check my rigs- a thunderstorm came through last night and it looks like one of my remote rigs had a power blip. Lucky thing is that I'm 5 minutes away from it atm so it won't be down for long

 

[Arjai]

Trying to update The P4 cruncher to Mint 18. I now have a "raw CD image" downloaded on the HD and want to install it...

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...s-and-useful-hints.215606/page-2#post-3676442
That's the original post, from a few minutes ago.

 

[Arjai]

Up and running!

 

[Sempron Guy]

any Ryzen owner here with a custom loop? May I ask what temps you are getting? This is what I'm getting with mine, R7 1700 @ 3.8ghz, 29c ambient. Single 360mm Nemesis GTS XFlow cpu only.

 

[stevorob]

Not on a custom loop, but running a 280mm rad AIO and my 1700 @3.7 1.2v sits around 48-50c package temp on full load

Vrm temps hover around 75-80c

48.2c seems very reasonable at 1.3v

 

[Sempron Guy]

Not on a custom loop, but running a 280mm rad AIO and my 1700 @3.7 1.2v sits around 48-50c package temp on full load

Vrm temps hover around 75-80c

48.2c seems very reasonable at 1.3v

it's 68c actually

 

[stevorob]

it's 68c actually

My fault, I was looking at the avg.
68 seems a bit high for custom water. Checked the cpu block to make sure it's mounted good? replaced thermal paste?

 

[Sempron Guy]

My fault, I was looking at the avg.
68 seems a bit high for custom water. Checked the cpu block to make sure it's mounted good? replaced thermal paste?

yeah already did twice

 

[Norton]

it's 68c actually

My 1600X runs around 70C at full load (Noctua U14S)- no overclock but the chip runs at 3.7Ghz while crunching

 

[Sempron Guy]

My 1600X runs around 70C at full load (Noctua U14S)- no overclock but the chip runs at 3.7Ghz while crunching

what's you usual ambient temp for those temps?