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Intel's Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X HEDT CPUs to use TIM; Won't be Soldered

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If you had your eyes on those new Intel HEDT processors, which were posted just today with some... Interesting... price-points, you'll be a little miffed to know that Intel has gone on and done it again. The few cents per unit that soldering the CPU would add to the manufacturing costs of Intel's HEDT processors (starting at $999, tray-friendly prices) could definitely bring the blue giant to the red. As such, the company has decided to do away with solder even on its HEDT line of high-performance, eye-wateringly-expensive CPUs in favor of their dreaded TIM.

The news have been confirmed by der8auer, a renowned overclocker. And as you have probably seen in our own VSG's review (and if you haven't shame on you and click that link right away), delidding Intel's CPU's and ridding them of their TIM can improve temperatures by up to a staggering 21 ºC (case in point, an i7-7700K). And that's a quad-core CPU; imagine an Intel Core i9-7980XE 18-core processor sitting under that TIM, and overclocking it to boot. Those are more than four times the cores under an equally bad thermal interface; add to that the likely presence of a thermally-insulating air-gap, and you can imagine where this is going. If you are planning on going for Intel's HEDT platform, you better take those delidding tools off your shelf.

Update: Check this video here for some more information. Turns out both Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X will make use of the referred TIM, but Skylake-X dies, which make use of a stacked PCB, won't be deliddable with current tools. A new tool is going to be developed by der8auer alongside ASUS for these chips.



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The guys at Intel are so stingy they scream when they take a sh*t.

Selling expensive HEDT cpus with Donald Duck glue and Scrooge McDuck TIM.

Like making the world's most amazing cake and then taking a sh*t on it before you close the box.

How can you not be amazed by Intel's lack of respect towards their HEDT customers.

Hope AMD is doing a bang up job with their 16 core HEDT and give it to Intel sideways.
 
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overclocking an Intel Core i9-7980XE 18-core processor under that TIM

I imagine the person delidding something that expensive either having balls of steel or just crazy.
 
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@Knoxx29 your thoughts? :rolleyes:

What will you do next?
 
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I imagine the person delidding something that expensive either having balls of steel or just crazy.
Or the more likely answer; They have so much money they don't care. :)
 
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If you are planning on going for Intel's HEDT platform, you better take those delidding tools off your shelf.
this brings picture in my head
dual socet rack just arrives at IT's office and their first to do, is to pick up deliding tools :rolleyes:

@Knoxx29 your thoughts? :rolleyes:

What will you do next?
go infront of the intel office and scream "shut up and take my money" :laugh:
 

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There will be a delid tool to these.

 

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@Knoxx29 your thoughts? :rolleyes:

What will you do next?

As i have said before, i have already chosen the one that i want, i don't care how much Intel will charge for their charming CPU:p

I belong to you Intel.:love:

I imagine the person delidding something that expensive either having balls of steel or just crazy.

Because you think i wasn't thinking about Delidding :D that's a priority.
 

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I imagine the person delidding something that expensive either having balls of steel or just crazy.

You see this is the beauty with this: now it's easy to do it!
 
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You see this is the beauty with this: now it's easy to do it!

Most still will manage to screw something up... it's just natural.
 

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You see this is the beauty with this: now it's easy to do it!

Honestly, not even being sarcastic, good. Now I wont crack the core.
 
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It isn't a sarcasm: if Intel bothers to put a decent thermal paste this time, it might even be the best option all-around, offering normal temperatures to non-OC users, and allowing delidding to OCers. A test done by Overclock3D showed that the problem was in the thermal paste used inside the TIM rather than in the process itself.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp...s_lower_by_26_degrees_after_tim_replacement/1

So personally, I won't judge until I see the thermal benchmarks.
 
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As i have said before, i have already chosen the one that i want, i don't care how much Intel will charge for their charming CPU:p

I belong to you Intel.:love:



Because you think i wasn't thinking about Delidding :D that's a priority.


I mean more like, how do you feel like that intel used crappy TIM once again on these expensive CPU's?

What will you do?
Will you buy a delid tool such as der8auer used?
 

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I mean more like, how do you feel like that intel used crappy TIM once again on these expensive CPU's?

I found it something positive because that will forced me to Delidd:p and i am not against.

What will you do?
Will you buy a delid tool such as der8auer used?

Nah, a Razor is the way to go, more adrenaline.

balls of steel or just crazy.

Ball of steel, that's Superman

Crazy, that's me;)
 
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I found it something positive because that will forced me to Delidd:p and i am not against.



Nah, a Razor is the way to go, more adrenaline.



Ball of steel, that's Superman

Crazy, that's me;)

Just buy 2 of them....Just in case..:D:D
 

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For Skylake-X, absolutely not. Watch the video linked above from Der8aurer.

I didn't watch the Video, i will do it later.

Thanks.
 
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Seriously Intel? A freaking TIM instead of solder or other more durable solution? And we all know they'll be using the most garbage TIM they get from china in generic buckets... For a CPU that costs this much, one would expect at least Arctic Silver or some similar goodness that has the longevity as well as great heat transfer capability.
 

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Seriously Intel? A freaking TIM instead of solder or other more durable solution? And we all know they'll be using the most garbage TIM they get from china in generic buckets... For a CPU that costs this much, one would expect at least Arctic Silver or some similar goodness that has the longevity as well as great heat transfer capability.

AS-5 is one of the worst retail TIMs you can use in 2017.
 
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AS-5 is one of the worst retail TIMs you can use in 2017.

If they would start using Kryonaut, now that would be something!
 
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Ridiculous, lol... i never complained about the 7700Ks, for reasons some may guess, some may not, doesn't matter.

But like Rej said, in this category? It's so.. outrageous, it's actually ridiculously funny, lol
Only Intel ^^
I won't say it, as we have preciously sensitive people here finding racism in everything, but i'm thinking of a certain stereotype already. Really fitting; both with Intel and this.. practice, if i can even call it that. Well done folks :)
 
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Some things never change and that is INTEL's strategy to milk. There is a clear difference in temperatures between my 7700K & 1800X. 7700K get up to High 70s or low 80c with Corsair Hydro H110 280mm while 1800x maxes out in 50's with Passive cooled (Noctua D14 w/o Fans) and this clearly shows the advantage of solder vs glue.

I was under the assumption there are no cutting corners when it comes to HEDT, ofcourse this is coming from my experienced with previous builds 5930K and 6900K which all worked great with passive cooler (Noctua D14 w/o Fans). Even when overclocked to around +/- 4.4Ghz I never had to use FAN on D14 and now I can do the same with 1800X, all thanks to direct contact between die and HS.

I am being direct but INTEL has a good history of utilizing cheap TIM on their past mainstream CPU's haswell,skylake,kabylake etc.
 
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Seriously Intel? A freaking TIM instead of solder or other more durable solution? And we all know they'll be using the most garbage TIM they get from china in generic buckets... For a CPU that costs this much, one would expect at least Arctic Silver or some similar goodness that has the longevity as well as great heat transfer capability.

Yeah... you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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AS-5 is one of the worst retail TIMs you can use in 2017.
But it's durable. 3 years working well, and 5+ years still working properly. And all you need to do is powering down PC on night each day for 30 days.

I had my suspicions when they named it SKY-X instead of SKY-E.
 
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