Cryorig H7 - stock fan vs 2x Arctic Cooling F12?

[Flogger23m]

Recently I purchased a Cryoirg H7 cooler for my Ryzen 1600. I have two spare Arctic Cooling F12 PWN fans from a previous build. Specs are here:

http://www.cryorig.com/h7_us.php

https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/arctic-f12-pwm.html
I am wondering if it is worth using the two Arctic Cooling fans over the stock Cryorig fan, or should I sell them for $10 or so? My understanding is an extra fan only drops temps by about 1C, but I am wondering if the F12s are notably better when it comes to noise or temp reduction compared to Cryoirg's offering.

 

[Kursah]

Well if you already have them why not give them a shot and let us know?

I am sure they'll be the same or better. The stock fan is decent but not as good as the F12s IMHO.

 

[Flogger23m]

Well if you already have them why not give them a shot and let us know?

I am sure they'll be the same or better. The stock fan is decent but not as good as the F12s IMHO.

I'd give them a test myself, but I don't have the H7 yet and if I'm going to sell the F12s I'd have to do it pretty soon (throwing them in a box with other stuff that is being sold). But if I end up hanging onto the F12s, I'll give them a try on the H7 vs the stock fan. Should be here in 2-3 days, but no idea when the AM4 mounts will come. My understanding is they will ship early June, so it could be a while until I can actually mount it.

 

[Kursah]

Gotcha. Well the H7 I have on my kid's PC is amazing. The mounting was a pain only because the case is a cube and didn't have a hole in the MB tray to mount it. But the studs go through the top and you run the nuts on the back iirc. It was very solidly mounted and didn't take long...but in that cube case I had to put the cooler on outside of the case. In most cases with the hole in the tray that won't be an issue.

Cooling performance has been great on the i3...that thing never breaches 50C even upstairs in a non-ac'd room that is at the SW corner of the house and a window facing each direction. Warmest room in the house. The stock fan is relatively quiet...but I'm not pushing an OC'd i5/i7 with it. I will say compared to the smaller Cryorig M9i and Cooler Master TX3, TX4 and CM212 EVO's, the H7 dominates. I also appreciate the offset for memory clearance and the low mount height (why I ended up using it in the Aspire X-QPACK3...less than 165mm clearance iirc).

I kinda hope things pan out so that you can do an A|B comparison if only for the sake of knowing how that performs with that AF12 and then with two of them. But not if it is at a loss to you. Keep us posted.

 

[Flogger23m]

Gotcha. Well the H7 I have on my kid's PC is amazing. The mounting was a pain only because the case is a cube and didn't have a hole in the MB tray to mount it. But the studs go through the top and you run the nuts on the back iirc. It was very solidly mounted and didn't take long...but in that cube case I had to put the cooler on outside of the case. In most cases with the hole in the tray that won't be an issue.

Cooling performance has been great on the i3...that thing never breaches 50C even upstairs in a non-ac'd room that is at the SW corner of the house and a window facing each direction. Warmest room in the house. The stock fan is relatively quiet...but I'm not pushing an OC'd i5/i7 with it. I will say compared to the smaller Cryorig M9i and Cooler Master TX3, TX4 and CM212 EVO's, the H7 dominates. I also appreciate the offset for memory clearance and the low mount height (why I ended up using it in the Aspire X-QPACK3...less than 165mm clearance iirc).

I kinda hope things pan out so that you can do an A|B comparison if only for the sake of knowing how that performs with that AF12 and then with two of them. But not if it is at a loss to you. Keep us posted.

One quick question. Seems like the PWM splitter / Y cable has been removed on the newest versions of the F12s, and they released a "PST" version which has them.

https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/f12-pwm-pst.html
https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/arctic-f12-pwm.html

As far as I can tell the RPM, CFM and fan blade design looks the same. Any reason to not mix/match these models on a single CPU tower? I am thinking of selling my current F12s, and if I am unsatisfied with the Cryorig, I'll just buy one of those each for $16. My current F12s are 3.5 years old, so they have life, but selling the old ones ($10) and if push comes to shove, paying ~$6 or so to "upgrade" to new ones isn't that bad of a deal.

 

[Kursah]

What is your mainboard? Many boards made in the last 5+ years has 2 CPU fan headers.

Though the PST version doesn't appear to be different aside from the splitter from what I can see. They use the same chart, and it appears the PST pulls a tad more current but shouldn't be a big deal...so I'd say you're good to go that route should you want to.

 

[Flogger23m]

What is your mainboard? Many boards made in the last 5+ years has 2 CPU fan headers.

Though the PST version doesn't appear to be different aside from the splitter from what I can see. They use the same chart, and it appears the PST pulls a tad more current but shouldn't be a big deal...so I'd say you're good to go that route should you want to.

My board does have two CPU headers, but I plugged a regular case fan in there. It runs at full RPM I believe, but it is fairly quiet as is because it only goes up to 1200 or so.

My motherboard is the ASRock X370 Killer.

I only saw 4x case fan headers, 2x CPU fan headers.

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370 Killer SLIac/index.asp

Couple of things that looked like headers but were labeled as RGB. Not sure if that is for lights only, or fans with RGB. I'll have to double check some day.

 

[dirtyferret]

Recently I purchased a Cryoirg H7 cooler for my Ryzen 1600. I have two spare Arctic Cooling F12 PWN fans from a previous build. Specs are here:

http://www.cryorig.com/h7_us.php

https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/arctic-f12-pwm.html
I am wondering if it is worth using the two Arctic Cooling fans over the stock Cryorig fan, or should I sell them for $10 or so? My understanding is an extra fan only drops temps by about 1C, but I am wondering if the F12s are notably better when it comes to noise or temp reduction compared to Cryoirg's offering.

The Cyorig fan tops out at 1600RPM while the artic cooling hits 1350RPM so one vs one I would expect the Cyorig to offer slightly better performance (obviously not your question). The H7 weighs 577g so it may be big enough to see some benefit to a second fan but I would not expect an eye popping difference.

Back when I gave a rat's behind about CPU temps I read a review in maximum pc magazine about how adding a second fan to a CM 212 showed no benefit since it was too thin of a cooler. Seeing how I had that cooler on an OC phenom II x 955 (or maybe it was my Athlon X 2 6400) I performed the same test and found the same results.

I personally prefer as little noise as possible ( I run scythe pmw fans on my heatsinks and they top out around 1300rpm) so I would use the Artic Cooling fans purely from a less noise perspective.

 

[Flogger23m]

The Cyorig fan tops out at 1600RPM while the artic cooling hits 1350RPM so one vs one I would expect the Cyorig to offer slightly better performance (obviously not your question). The H7 weighs 577g so it may be big enough enough to see some benefit to a second fan but I would not expect an eye popping difference.

Back when I gave a rat's behind about CPU temps I read a review in maximum pc magazine about how adding a second fan to a CM 212 showed no benefit since it was too thin of a cooler. Seeing how I had that cooler on an OC phenom II x 955 (or maybe it was my Athlon X 2 6400) I performed the same test and found the same results.

I personally prefer as little noise as possible ( I run scythe pmw fans on my heatsinks and they top out around 1300rpm) so I would use the Artic Cooling fans purely from a less noise perspective.

Performance wise I don't expect much of a difference. My understanding, after seeing many push / pull reviews, is you save 1-2C at most. It would really only be a noise thing. And I figure, if I have to order one, may as well go push pull. With luck I find the H7's fan to be quiet enough, because I just sold my current F12s.

 

[dirtyferret]

Performance wise I don't expect much of a difference. My understanding, after seeing many push / pull reviews, is you save 1-2C at most. It would really only be a noise thing. And I figure, if I have to order one, may as well go push pull. With luck I find the H7's fan to be quiet enough, because I just sold my current F12s.

dilemma solved