Riding the Crypto wave

[FireFox]

https://whattomine.com/

It isn't abnormal for your cards to pick lyra.

Thanks for the link, too many numbers confused me, yeap, it's not abnormal but it's not what i should be mining right now.

Quick explanation how that table works?

 

[cdawall]

Input hashrate (or use the bottom rights gpu selection) and it will show what is most profitable at the bottom.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

I got a 1060 6GB from MSI and I started mining with it from today on my second PC

 

[FireFox]

Input hashrate (or use the bottom rights gpu selection) and it will show what is most profitable at the bottom.

Still don't know where to look, too many numbers. or maybe i am too ignorant.

 

[Delta6326]

Ugh my WISP is down! No internet... so far the 1080 Ti has got around $16

 

[notb]

At least in the city where i live i haven't seen any increment in prices, i got the 1080 Superclocked for 525€ and the 1060 SC for 270€ each, if you check in Amazon the 1080 SC cost 658,25€.

In Poland the PC parts' market is dominated by a few large online retailers (some of them have stores as well, but they're mostly for picking up orders).
I'll give you examples of popular (MSI Gaming X) cards from AFAIK the largest one. Prices in other stores are very similar. They include VAT: 23%.

model ----- price [USD] --- ROI [days] -- relative performance@TPU [%]
1050 ------- 161 ----------- 110 --------- 100
1050Ti ----- 233 ----------- 130 --------- 122
1060 6GB -- 543 ----------- 175 --------- 196
1070 ------- 782 ----------- 170 --------- 267
1080 ------- 834 ----------- 160 --------- 318

ROI is based on nicehash calculator "past 30 days", relative performance is from MSI 1050 review (https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Gaming_X/27.html).

Clearly, prices are adjusted towards a ~1/2 year ROI. 1050 and Ti are relatively cheap, but it's likely they'll also stop being profitable fairly soon.
Question is: are these the prices I should get used to now? :-/

It's much better in US (as usual ). Amazon US not only gives significant discounts on GPUs, but there's also a mail-in rebate from MSI (and other manufacturers as well).
For the MSI 1080 Gaming X it looks like this:
730 - 160 [discount] - 40 [rebates] = 530 USD
Even if you include the polish VAT it would be relatively cheap:
(730-160)*1.23 - 40 = 661 USD

This just shows how much GPU prices were inflated in less wealthy countries. The average monthly salary in Poland (after tax) is around 800 USD.
So while in US or Grmany you'd have to make a mining farm (cdawall-style) to make this worth the fuss, in Poland even a single GPU can make a difference.
According to nicehash a 1070 would earn 140 USD / month. Even with that long ROI this potentially means a significant income.

 

[LightningJR]

ZCash is now more profitable for me. After power costs it's 20-25c more a day than ETH. 75% power limit works best it seems for a 1070 with ZCash.

Edit: ZCash must have just got a price hike, im getting ~50c more now. ZCash's price must fluctuate a lot..

 

[FireFox]

Question is: are these the prices I should get used to now? :-/

Well, till this mining thing keep going on i am afraid these are the prices you have to get used to.

ZCash is now more profitable for me. After power costs it's 20-25c more a day than ETH. 75% power limit works best it seems for a 1070 with ZCash.

Edit: ZCash must have just got a price hike, im getting ~50c more now. ZCash's price must fluctuate a lot..

I don't know how could it be more profitable if according to this link provided by @cdawall https://whattomine.com/ it looks like ZCash it is not doing that well.

 

[notb]

Well, till this mining thing keep going on i am afraid these are the prices you have to get used to.

Well... there's always the possibility that manufacturers will differentiate GPUs.
We know that mining versions are coming and that they don't differ much from the gaming ones (at least in hardware). People expect their drivers to be more optimized for mining, but also the opposite is possible: NVIDIA might be able to artificially limit mining performance of future gaming GPUs - hence shifting them back to proper prices. What I am worried about is that this could also affect GPGPU performance, which I'm actually looking for (most of the games I play run on HD 630 pretty well...).
NVIDIA is rumored to release a Pascal Refresh for the 1050-series with 1060-like clocks near the end of the year, but why wait? We know this chip is ready. Even the cards available today could overclock to 1060's levels (they're all artificially limited).

Unlike many think, this situation is not that great for GPU card vendors and GPU chip manufacturers. Suddenly, PC gaming became a lot more expensive. This will only lead to shrinking of PC market share and further boost for consoles and smartphones.

I'm sure they're working on a solution. I'm sure most ideas are idiotic or unrealistic, but they'll find a way.
Honestly, if someone made a GPU that only works for 12h/day but costs half of what I'd have to pay today, I'd be delighted.

 

[hat]

I doubt nvidia would artificially cripple mining performance. To do so would be handing customers over to AMD.

 

[LightningJR]

Well, till this mining thing keep going on i am afraid these are the prices you have to get used to.



I don't know how could it be more profitable if according to this link provided by @cdawall https://whattomine.com/ it looks like ZCash it is not doing that well.

idk what to tell you but it's been consistent as of right now. ~.50c+ as of right now over ETH. Don't minei t, works for me. More ppl that don't the better the price. I'm pretty stoked that it's mining well.

 

[cdawall]

@Knoxx29 since you asked earlier I have been playing with a 1080 today (strix edition) and it pulls right at 200w from the wall (182w according to software) that is with the TDP pushed to +20% and +100 core +500 memory which is good for 490sol/s in equihash

 

[LightningJR]

@Knoxx29 since you asked earlier I have been playing with a 1080 today (strix edition) and it pulls right at 200w from the wall (182w according to software) that is with the TDP pushed to +20% and +100 core +500 memory which is good for 490sol/s in equihash

I am at 75% power/+550Mem and getting ~430sol/s on my 1070. Software says 120W.

 

[notb]

I doubt nvidia would artificially cripple mining performance. To do so would be handing customers over to AMD.

But:
- they have actually announced mining cards and AMD haven't (yet),
- the 2 companies could actually be planning this together,
- AMD has limited manufacturing capabilities: there is a shortage of their GPUs already,
- as I said earlier: mining boom is an issue for both NVIDIA and AMD (and even more so for card manufacturers) - I'm sure they'd be willing to sacrifice some mining sales to get this covered. And if they work together, they don't have to sacrifice anything - just make a new product for the mining community.

 

[FireFox]

the 2 companies could actually be planning this together,

And if they work together,

Ummmm, i guess you forgot to take your pills last night or you ate too much Chocolate

Joke.

 

[notb]

Ummmm, i guess you forgot to take your pills last night or you ate too much Chocolate

Joke.

Why?

Are you one those people that believe competing companies hate each other and are unable to cooperate?

 

[FireFox]

Why?

Are you one those people that believe competing companies hate each other and are unable to cooperate?

Unfortunately yes, Nvidia doesn't need AMD.

 

[FireFox]

Hi lads.

Quick question.

I have always bought Enermax platimax power supply, i need a power supply for the mining Machine i am building so i decided to buy a Cooler master one, can someone give me some advice about this one: COOLER MASTER RS700-ACABB1-EU B2 SERIES

http://eu.coolermaster.com/uk/powersupply/office-home/b700ver2/

Edit: it doesn't say 80+ Bronze/Gold or Platinum

Just:

WTF

Thanks in advance.

 

[Norton]

it doesn't say 80+ Bronze/Gold or Platinum

That's 80+ EU (see chart here):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

 

[FireFox]

That's 80+ EU (see chart here):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

Would be OK for 24/7 full load?

 

[Norton]

Would be OK for 24/7 full load?

That would depend on the quality of its internal components/build quality....

 

[FireFox]

That would depend on the quality of its internal components/build quality....

Now you scared me what you wrote it's enough for not to buy it

 

[toilet pepper]

Hi lads.

Quick question.

I have always bought Enermax platimax power supply, i need a power supply for the mining Machine i am building so i decided to buy a Cooler master one, can someone give me some advice about this one: COOLER MASTER RS700-ACABB1-EU B2 SERIES

http://eu.coolermaster.com/uk/powersupply/office-home/b700ver2/

Edit: it doesn't say 80+ Bronze/Gold or Platinum

Just:
View attachment 89471

WTF

Thanks in advance.

I got a 7 yr old 500w Cooler Master PSU on a rig and I can confirm they are reliable. I'm using an FSP 750w Aurum for around 4 yrs now and it is still kicking.

My advice is check reviews. Most of the time the rated efficiency of a PSU only happens under a certain wattage the PSU is rated for. Better to calculate your system's total draw and base it off from there. TPU does a great job on these reviews as well.

 

[FireFox]

My advice is check reviews.

Read enough, decided not to buy it.

 

[cdawall]

Yea most coolermaster powersupplies are tier 4 and tier 5 or not the most looked for items out there.