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Remember, the BTC you mine stays the same (relative to your hash rate). The value of bitcoin is volatile, that's why the payout numbers are different. You could just keep on mining bitcoin and save it for a later date when it's (hopefully) even more valuable than it is now. I saw a story recently about some big investor guy that thinks bitcoin could be worth $100k each in 10 years. Of course that's speculation and wildly risky, but we all knew it was risky going in.

Meanwhile i have to pay electricity bill and for sure not from my own pocket :p
 

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That's what extension cords are for :laugh:
 
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so the way you and yotano are discussing this raises a question for me, do nvidia cards not use a dag file or do they use it different?.

both use the dag and store it in video memory.

apparently nvidia memory layout is different from amds. from what i understand (not much really) with amd once the dag no longer fits in one memory bank there is a huge penalty accessing it. nvidia seems immune to this.
 
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Sorry i forgot that.




Yeap, cheap cheap.



Maybe you should send it to your bank account?

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just €0.15 fee, not bad at all;)

I paid 1.99€ to transfer 50€ from Bitcoin wallet to Euro wallet, and 0.15€ to my bank account. To transfer 53€ had to pay 2.99€ to Euro wallet, this was for the last week. This week I only made 30€, still on my Bitcoin wallet waiting for better days. :(
 

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That's what extension cords are for :laugh:

Amazing idea, i should have thought before:rolleyes:, wait wait, you mean the cord to hang myself or the one to steal my neighbor's electricty:confused:
 

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I paid 1.99€ to transfer 50€ from Bitcoin wallet to Euro wallet, and 0.15€ to my bank account. To transfer 53€ had to pay 2.99€ to Euro wallet, this was for the last week. This week I only made 30€, still on my Bitcoin wallet waiting for better days. :(

Mine was like 2% $30 out of $1330. My bank has no fee for receiving money? What kind of nonsense is that.
 

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Mine was like 2% $30 out of $1330. My bank has no fee for receiving money? What kind of nonsense is that.

Was what they charge me.

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That depends when you got them. Prices in stores are out of control now, but should drop soon enough.
Also there's a huge mistake made by all massive miners, who assume they can always sell the card when mining profits stop. Who will you sell them to? :-D

As long as the cards you have are seen as good for mining, you might as well sell them to another mining farm owner.
But every time a set of GPU stops being usable for mining, there will be a flood of used cards for sell. This oversupply will not only push the used prices down but also lead to many of them not being sold at all.

Aren't these AMD cards the ones you've mentioned in this discussion (i.e. you've ordered them in June)? If so, they must have already been hugely expensive and many weeks from ROI.
I hope you analyze this activity well and there is a positive outcome in your magic spreadsheet. :-D

Maybe you have a cheap source for GPUs, but current prices on new GTX cards and latest mining profitability mean that the typical ROI is no longer ~2 months but almost half a year.

In the end it's actually irrelevant whether you end up with tens of AMD or NVIDIA cards. You'll struggle to sell them all.

I sell them on ebay, selling on ebay is my full time job, mining is just a hobby. The cards that I mentioned in June where the 1060 3gb that I ran over to Micocenter to pick some up. All AMD cards that I purchased where bought months ago at Best Buy and some from Jet.com when supply was still good. I dont mind if my ROI is half a year, the money I sent on this is "play" money. Its money that I had from selling bitcoin when it increased so much.
 
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so the way you and yotano are discussing this raises a question for me, do nvidia cards not use a dag file or do they use it different?

just trying to stay on point nothing else.
I dont know how the DAG file is affecting the performance of all AMD cards, I dont think anyone knows besides AMD themselves. My theory is how the DAG file writes to the memory chips of AMD cards vs Nvidia cards. I think with AMD, the file is written on some memory chips while with Nvidia its written over all of the memory chips. I think the DAG file is over saturating the memory chips of AMD making them clogged up. The problem is completely drivers issues with AMD.
 

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Nope, that's what you get paid:slap:

Yes, from 50€(Value transferred) - 1.99€ (Fee) = 48.01€ (Euro wallet)

EDIT Just a simulation if I transfer 30€ now...

Bitcoin simulation.jpg
 
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The market is volatile. Prices will go up and down. Hang in there, it'll be alright. :toast:
The prices go up and down, but what's the expected price? If you don't have a model, it'll be the current one.
Thing is though: people who bought cards in June (at peak prices) are having second thoughts now.

Just to give you an example: according to nicehash calculator, an ASUS Strix 1060 bought today on amazon.co.uk would break even in... 229 days in Poland (0.13 EUR/kWh) and in 272 days in Germany (0.29 EUR/kWh). Not the best investment I can think of, to be honest.
And nicehash ROI is not calculated on the current profitability, but using a time window. Using current profitability you get some pretty awful numbers (~150% of those above).

Sure, ASUS Strix is not the cheapest of 1060, but by sheer coincidence (obviously :-D) it is among those easiest to obtain at the moment. Similarly, there are quite a lot of MSI Gaming X and Gigabyte G1.

In Poland I could even buy an MSI RX580 Gaming X 8GB! I would get it by the end of the week, cost 550 EU and break even in "just" 191 days (256 for Germany). Well, still better than the 1060! :p

You could just keep on mining bitcoin and save it for a later date when it's (hopefully) even more valuable than it is now. I saw a story recently about some big investor guy that thinks bitcoin could be worth $100k each in 10 years. Of course that's speculation and wildly risky, but we all knew it was risky going in.

So now you're just moving from "production" (mining BTC) to speculative trading. But if that's the goal, mining is really pretty much pointless: you're getting too little, too slowly. It would be a better idea to just buy BTC and keep it, if you believe it'll go up.
 

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I don't have all this money to just throw down on an investment I won't touch for years, and which also may crash and burn to nothing. By buying mining hardware I'm in the game right now and getting paid right now. Those cards will start paying for themselves as soon as they're installed. After I meet ROI then one could say they'd be making something for nothing. I can earn more than my money's worth by mining, and start making money back (admittedly in small amounts) right away. I can't do that with a long term speculative investment.
 

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Talking about investment.

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So far i have earned enough to pay for a new power supply, CPU, Risers and the Open Air Mining case and still have some money left.
 
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both use the dag and store it in video memory.

apparently nvidia memory layout is different from amds. from what i understand (not much really) with amd once the dag no longer fits in one memory bank there is a huge penalty accessing it. nvidia seems immune to this.
I don't know about that, on polaris and Pascal the Rops are tied to memory controllers just the same afaik, i think the epoch increase degradation effects both but if you have a link id love to read it?.
I think people mean the smaller I and D cache in amd designs ,and while it is valid ,it isn't happening yet and id argue the blockchain hasn't fitted in that ever.
The algorithm and data used could become unwieldy in time but imho their are other things to mine and im not too deeply entrenched in all thats Amd ,I will mix it up personally.
I suppose it depends on your outlook though , i would pay the bill to earn imaginary money on the chance it goes big , but I would try to choose wisely or experiment intelligently.
 
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What is your fee so high for? Coinbase is one of the cheaper converts...

Steam uses BitPay, I scanned the QR code from my pc steam checkout and it charged me that fee.
 

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I don't know about that, on polaris and Pascal the Rops are tied to memory controllers just the same afaik, i think the epoch increase degradation effects both but if you have a link id love to read it?.
I think people mean the smaller I and D cache in amd designs ,and while it is valid ,it isn't happening yet and id argue the blockchain hasn't fitted in that ever.
The algorithm and data used could become unwieldy in time but imho their are other things to mine and im not too deeply entrenched in all thats Amd ,I will mix it up personally.
I suppose it depends on your outlook though , i would pay the bill to earn imaginary money on the chance it goes big , but I would try to choose wisely or experiment intelligently.

no link that was conjecture by some folks at bitcointalk (a miner coder if i remember correctly). if i find it ill post the link

claymore of dual miner fame isnt sure why thats happening but he did state the amd driver developers are aware of it.

the r9 390 doesnt seem to be effected by dag size, just the rx series.
 
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no link that was conjecture by some folks at bitcointalk (a miner coder if i remember correctly). if i find it ill post the link

claymore of dual miner fame isnt sure why thats happening but he did state the amd driver developers are aware of it.

the r9 390 doesnt seem to be effected by dag size, just the rx series.
I think I read the same thing , thats where i got the input and output cache info from , a fair few people have money on it we definitely Will see eh.
 
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From where you got those number:confused:
Precisely from a friend in Munich, but every source I've seen gives an estimate around 0,3+/-0,02 EUR/kWh.
E.g. EUROSTAT: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Electricity_price_statistics

How much do you pay?
I don't have all this money to just throw down on an investment I won't touch for years, and which also may crash and burn to nothing. By buying mining hardware I'm in the game right now and getting paid right now. Those cards will start paying for themselves as soon as they're installed.
Your mining rig could also "crash and burn to nothing". And actually even by mining you're speculating on the coin value.
Simple trading of coins is so much easier technically, so much less time-consuming and irritating in everyday life.
So far i have earned enough to pay for a new power supply, CPU, Risers and the Open Air Mining case and still have some money left.
I have to ask: you've earned or you got paid?
By "earning" I mean having covered the initial investment (buying parts and so on) and costs (electricity and other). If you're already past that, you're actually earning money.
I can't stop thinking that people forget about covering the costs first. They build a mining rig and, once it makes enough cash, they buy more gear for mining. It's a constant loop of extending the mining farm which means they're losing money, not earning it.
 

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How much do you pay

I used to pay 26c now i am paying just 21,48c.

I have to ask: you've earned or you got paid? By "earning" I mean having covered the initial investment (buying parts and so on) and costs (electricity and other). If you're already past that, you're actually earning money.
I can't stop thinking that people forget about covering the costs first. They build a mining rig and, once it makes enough cash, they buy more gear for mining. It's a constant loop of extending the mining farm which means they're losing money, not earning it.

What i meant is that i got paid enough to cover some of the investment i have done + electricity bill and i still have some money left, to cover what i have invested it will takes 3/months.
 
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Storage 2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s) 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches
Software Windows 11 Enterprise (legit), Gentoo Linux x64
Turned off my miner for right now due to the heatwave, but considering I invested nothing, I earned an easy 10 bucks.

Will try to raise that higher later. I plan to just sit on it anyways, in hopes that Ethereum spikes. Nice when your "initial investment" is just stuff you have lying around, and thus, 0. :laugh:
 
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System Name MSI GP76
Processor intel i7 11800h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 3070
Storage x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz
Power Supply 280w laptop power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores Good enough for me
I'm still doing good, even with this heatwave in my town. I am spending more time at the girlfriend's house.
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