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Precisely from a friend in Munich, but every source I've seen gives an estimate around 0,3+/-0,02 EUR/kWh.
E.g. EUROSTAT: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Electricity_price_statistics

How much do you pay?

Your mining rig could also "crash and burn to nothing". And actually even by mining you're speculating on the coin value.
Simple trading of coins is so much easier technically, so much less time-consuming and irritating in everyday life.

I have to ask: you've earned or you got paid?
By "earning" I mean having covered the initial investment (buying parts and so on) and costs (electricity and other). If you're already past that, you're actually earning money.
I can't stop thinking that people forget about covering the costs first. They build a mining rig and, once it makes enough cash, they buy more gear for mining. It's a constant loop of extending the mining farm which means they're losing money, not earning it.
That's why i write it off as Toys ,then after the elecy bills paid its magic money that sometimes shits itself , i lost £39 speculating on efin Litecoin ill be more careful / less daft next time , it's fun though i just ordered two 1060s to Play with Joy and anyway even I couldn't reason buying this many Toys if they didn't try to pay their way.
 

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Your mining rig could also "crash and burn to nothing". And actually even by mining you're speculating on the coin value.
Simple trading of coins is so much easier technically, so much less time-consuming and irritating in everyday life.

I expected you to make that argument.

Thing is, in ~2 months after I receive my cards I'll more than hit ROI, at which point, I can continue generating bitcoin for nothing. If I spent the same money by just buying bitcoin, then the only thing I'd have is to play the stock market game, trying to buy low and sell high to make a buck. At least with my mining hardware, there is always potential, and I don't have to pay so much attention to prices as I would if all I did was just buy bitcoin. I'm constantly generating more bitcoin on my own.

That's why i write it off as Toys ,then after the elecy bills paid its magic money that sometimes shits itself , i lost £39 speculating on efin Litecoin ill be more careful / less daft next time , it's fun though i just ordered two 1060s to Play with Joy and anyway even I couldn't reason buying this many Toys if they didn't try to pay their way.

That's one way to look at it. It's best to be able to look at it as "play money", but I take it very seriously. I would have never upgraded a damn thing in my PC in the next 2 years if it wasn't for bitcoin, and I'm sure I'd never have a graphics card as powerful as a GTX1070 either. Like I said before, I could care less about gaming on these cards. My 660ti is still good as gold for gaming (for me) at this time. I took a big risk and I hope it all pans out, but I really feel potential here. For me, it's more than just a hobby or something to do for fun, it's serious business and I hope to be able to alleviate some debts thanks to it.
 
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I expected you to make that argument.

Thing is, in ~2 months after I receive my cards I'll more than hit ROI, at which point, I can continue generating bitcoin for nothing. If I spent the same money by just buying bitcoin, then the only thing I'd have is to play the stock market game, trying to buy low and sell high to make a buck. At least with my mining hardware, there is always potential, and I don't have to pay so much attention to prices as I would if all I did was just buy bitcoin. I'm constantly generating more bitcoin on my own.
No mate Everone should just go out and buy them , buy loads;):);):) for the next few years buy loafds everyone.
 

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No mate Everone should just go out and buy them , buy loads;):);):) for the next few years buy loafs everyone.
I'd much rather generate them on my own than play that game. The way I see it I'm paying roughly $900 for a pretty good chance of making that back in 3 months (admittedly I made an error in my last post when I said 2 months) and then some, as long as I wish to continue mining. It's like if I bought 100 shares of AMD, it'll always be 100 shares of AMD unless I bought or sold some. Doing it my way, I'm slowly generating shares of AMD over time. In 3 months I'll have 100 shares of AMD, and from that point on that can continue to grow well past the original investment.
 
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I got my first payout last night. I haven't converted it to "real" money yet but I got around $30 leaving my PC on while at work or simply sleeping on it. Not bad since I don't have any ROI but the electricity cost here is a horrendous $0.20 kwh though.
 
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Whatz you going to do with them goodies.
We can only wonder... maybe he wants to crush them up, mix them in with some ground beef and make delicious hamburgers out of it! I heard ASUS brand video cards make a better hamburger seasoning than EVGA though... :respect:
 

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Those are free hardware, where i work ( Airport ) we get a shopping card and every year we get 1500€ bonus, but you cant withdraw that money you can just buy in some stores, local and online.
 
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Those are free hardware, where i work ( Airport ) we get a shopping card and every year we get 1500€ bonus, but you cant withdraw that money you can just buy in some stores, local and online.
Good way to spend that money IMO. Let the restricted bonus money make money for you.
 

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Now I am at a crossroads I just snagged another 480 and I am trying to decide if I should flash the BIOS and make it mine or sell it on ebay lol
 

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Sell it and put it towards another GTX1070?
 

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That is exactly what I am thinking. I just sold another 390X for over $400 and as soon as that clears I might start putting my 1060's up.
 

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It's best to go with the most efficient stuff if you're able to.

Has anyone thought about mining on a quadro or tesla card? What about titan?
 
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I expected you to make that argument.

Thing is, in ~2 months after I receive my cards I'll more than hit ROI
Are you sure? Have you actually calculated this?
If so, you must be getting your cards very cheaply. As I've already mentioned in this discussion, current ROI is over half a year (based on hash rates from nicehash calculator).

If I spent the same money by just buying bitcoin, then the only thing I'd have is to play the stock market game, trying to buy low and sell high to make a buck. At least with my mining hardware, there is always potential, and I don't have to pay so much attention to prices as I would if all I did was just buy bitcoin. I'm constantly generating more bitcoin on my own.
Actually you're doing exactly the same thing. :)
You still should "buy low" (you buy GPUs - their price should are somehow correlated to mining profitability) and you should "sell high" (cash out when BTC is expensive).
It's just that your risk model is way more complicated, because it also includes the possible failure of GPU (which might even not survive ROI period). And you have many other costs.

BTW: Real-world mining companies also buy a lot of investment products (e.g. options on currency rates and the thing they're mining). :-D

I took a big risk and I hope it all pans out, but I really feel potential here.
People would not take risk if they didn't see any potential.
For me the risk is huge.
I try to keep a fairly low-risk, diversified investment portfolio and this was not acceptable. I was actually reluctant to buy a single powerful GPU for my PC, let alone getting a purpose-built mining rig. I definitely prefer investing in stocks or even FOREX.
 

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I gave up on the mining idea, it was not worth it to me...in UK the electricity is expensive. For around 30£ profit a month I don't really see the point ( in my case )
 

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I gave up on the mining idea, it was not worth it to me...in UK the electricity is expensive. For around 30£ profit a month I don't really see the point ( in my case )

30£ net, how expensive is the electricity?
 
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That is exactly what I am thinking. I just sold another 390X for over $400 and as soon as that clears I might start putting my 1060's up.
I'm going to be looking to buy some 1060's soon. Let me know if/where you post them.
 
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I think it is around 0.2£ per Kwh
 

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Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000W ATX 3.0 80+ Gold
Mouse Logitech G502X Plus LightSpeed Hero Wireless plus Logitech G POWERPLAY Wireless Charging Mouse Pad
Keyboard Logitech G915 LightSpeed Wireless
Software Win 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores Just enough
You realise that is the same thing? :D
 
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