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Don't understand why EVGA stopped using the Leadex II platform on their GQ series and used FSP instead, but it apparently worked out well for them. FSP have a nice build quality on these considering most of my experience is with their mass production business models and their "reliability". I'd sooner take the FSP over Thermaltake's Sirtec made unit.

Someone will have to correct me, but didn't HighPower use Sirtec as their OEM? I know the odd Silverstone Strider used em but switched over to Enhanced Electronics.

Thermaltake user CWT for that unit unless I linked the wrong tear down...
 
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Thermaltake user CWT for that unit unless I linked the wrong tear down...
Toughpower Grand RGB Gold is definitely Sirtec. Nearly all the other Toughpower units are CWT or EE.
 
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Hdds really dont use a lot of power man... really. In looking at your sig, a quality 650w psu, like evga g2/g3 650w would be a great choice and allow for plemty lf overclocking and have headroom for more.

Wait..which build is this going in????
The one with Fury x and i7 4820k.
 
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Hdds really dont use a lot of power man... really.
Agreed. Most hard drives consume less than 10W (~6.5W being about the average). So even if you had 10 hard drives, that would only be 100W and that would only happen if all 10 drives were writing at the same time - not gonna happen.

You don't need anywhere near 850W. Your i7 4820k with the Fury X, 5hds, 1 SSD, and 3 140mm fans could easily get by with a decent 650W. And I like EVGA for that too. And note too most PSUs are most efficient when running with 50 to 70% loads.
 
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Agreed. Most hard drives consume less than 10W (~6.5W being about the average). So even if you had 10 hard drives, that would only be 100W and that would only happen if all 10 drives were writing at the same time - not gonna happen.

You don't need anywhere near 850W. Your i7 4820k with the Fury X, 5hds, 1 SSD, and 3 140mm fans could easily get by with a decent 650W. And I like EVGA for that too. And note too most PSUs are most efficient when running with 50 to 70% loads.
But on XFX site says that i need a 850watt psu for the Fury x and the one i have is 775watt and i was in the minimum requirements that is 750watt.
I prefere to have room if in the future i'm going dual gpu too who ever knows what is going to come out in the next years.
 

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But on XFX site says that i need a 850watt psu
Hmmm, actually is says,
Minimum Power Supply Requirement : 750 watt

XFX Recommended Power Supply : XFX 850W PSU
So I can understand why you are looking for an 850W. I think they just want to make sure you don't try to use an under rated supply which makes sense. But I think they have stretched it bit far suggesting 850W. Either way, I won't argue about it. It does not hurt anything (except maybe your budget) to get an 850W.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
But on XFX site says that i need a 850watt psu for the Fury x and the one i have is 775watt and i was in the minimum requirements that is 750watt.
I prefere to have room if in the future i'm going dual gpu too who ever knows what is going to come out in the next years.
they always overestimate... again a quality 650w unit is plenty for your listed needs.

Dont drag this easy choice out longer than it needs to. Grab what you listed, or save some money amd go 650w g2/g3 from evga...(may be same cost as g2/g3 lines are 'tier 1' psus).
 

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they always overestimate... again a quality 650w unit is plenty for your listed needs.

Dont drag this easy choice out longer than it needs to. Grab what you listed, or save some money amd go 650w g2/g3 from evga...(may be same cost as g2/g3 lines are 'tier 1' psus).

I mean one of my work boxes mines 24/7 with two r9 furys at 1100mhz on an ax860...
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Its tough not being 'in the know' and just basing decisions off marketing spew...
 
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So the final choice is EVGA GQ 850 with 5 years warranty .
Because the manufacture is better then the Thermaltake with 10 years warranty.
I see a lot of votes for the EVGA .

If i hade more budget i would have choose a SuperFlower leadex ii but is out of budget :(
 
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That's fine. Bit I'd personally go with the 10 year warranty Thermaltake. Since based on reviews they're basically identical build quality and performance wise. And where the EVGA was scored slightly higher is irrelevant to anyone but a PSU reviewer.

EDIT: I just realized the reviews for the Thermaltake unit previously posted were for the wrong PSUs(the DPS-G and 750W versions). So I went and found a fairly thorough review from another site for the ToughPower Grand RGB 850W 80+ Gold. It seems to be as good or better than the other reviewed models, and/or the EVGA unit. So my opinion remains unchanged.
 
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In here 10 years means nothing.. After 1 year you need to forget it since harder to claim
 
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In here 10 years means nothing.. After 1 year you need to forget it since harder to claim
You mean where you live? Because in Europe it matters XD.
 
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You mean where you live? Because in Europe it matters
It matters in the US too - as long as you (1) register your product after purchase or (2) keep the receipt/proof of purchase. Contrary to what many think, and what many companies want you to think, you do not have to register your product with them to activate the warranty. In some cases, registering is just a gimmick to get your personal information. That said, in other cases, it is to ensure if there are any product recalls, you will be notified.

While a longer warranty is not proof of better quality, no company wants to replace a product under warranty as that comes right out profits. So a longer warranty at least indicates the company has faith in their product. And that's a good thing.
 
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It matters in the US too - as long as you (1) register your product after purchase or (2) keep the receipt/proof of purchase. Contrary to what many think, and what many companies want you to think, you do not have to register your product with them to activate the warranty. In some cases, registering is just a gimmick to get your personal information. That said, in other cases, it is to ensure if there are any product recalls, you will be notified.

While a longer warranty is not proof of better quality, no company wants to replace a product under warranty as that comes right out profits. So a longer warranty at least indicates the company has faith in their product. And that's a good thing.
That's bull. Europe has the most stringent consumer product warranty protections in the world. In the US the manufacturer can deny a warranty claim by saying you looked at it crosseyed, hurting it's feelings. God help you if you scratch the warranty seal during installation.

I just bought my first EVGA a couple weeks ago so I can't say anything to the longevity yet but the one I bought (750w Supernova G3 Gold) was my choice based on the renowned quality of the Super Flower platform. The 10 year warranty doesn't really mean much to me because I don't expect to be able to find the receipt nor do I expect EVGA to have my registration on file for 10 years.

To sum up warranties and guarantees..

And as far as hard drives go, yeah they only use a few watts each in operation, but they are a huge draw during spinup - some can pull upwards of 2 amps each. Unless you are using a RAID card that has staggered spinup, the start surge can tax a power supply to the point of not POSTing
 
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And as far as hard drives go, yeah they only use a few watts each in operation, but they are a huge draw during spinup - some can pull upwards of 2 amps each. Unless you are using a RAID card that has staggered spinup, the start surge can tax a power supply to the point of not POSTing

Eh even my stack of 14 enterprise level drives doesn't make the 550w platinum I run have issues on start up.
 
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That's bull. Europe has the most stringent consumer product warranty protections in the world. In the US the manufacturer can deny a warranty claim by saying you looked at it crosseyed, hurting it's feelings. God help you if you scratch the warranty seal during installation.
:( First, I NEVER said or implied anything about Europe, nor did I suggest the US consumer has better protection. I merely agreed that if a product is warrantied for 10 years, that warranty matters in the US too.

Second you are citing totally different scenarios - that are false by the way! Yes, if you break the warranty seal, you may void the warranty but the fact is, consumers have a great deal of enforceable rights when it comes to faulty products. Unscrupulous companies may try to intimidate consumers but a quick phone call (or simple threat of a quick phone call) to your State Attorney's General Consumer Protection hot line will get you some action.

As for those seals, it depends on where it is and what's inside. Some unscrupulous custom PC builders put those seals on PC cases to scare users to stay out. But those seals are NOT legally enforceable UNLESS the builder provides full and free service for the entire warranty period. That includes free interior cleaning, free labor for adding RAM, drives, extra fans, etc. since those actions are things users can legally do with their computers. In fact, users have a responsibility to keep the interiors of their PCs clean of heat trapping dust.

Opening a power supply is different because there are "No user-serviceable parts inside" a power supply.

For the record, as a custom PC business owner, I've taken a few business law courses to ensure I know my rights as a business owner, and as a consumer. And the consumer has more power than you think. They just have to stand up for themselves if a business does not want to play by those consumer protection laws. And in those cases, that business is not likely to stay in business for very long.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
And as far as hard drives go, yeah they only use a few watts each in operation, but they are a huge draw during spinup - some can pull upwards of 2 amps each. Unless you are using a RAID card that has staggered spinup, the start surge can tax a power supply to the point of not POSTing
Huge, LOL.. I guess we define that differently...

That said, while spinup does use more power, all the other components are not maxed out making it, as was originally stated, still a non-issue, hard drives.
 
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If it's simply between thermaltake and EVGA ....I would go with EVGA 100% every time. Of course I wouldn't go with the cheapest EVGA unit over the best thermaltake ,but even if they're slightly comparable I would go with EVGA every time. I've had some bad experiences with thermaltaco, and their psu's are crap in my opinion even there better ones are are to be avoided.not to mention that they use stupid mounting hole positions on some of their tough power models or whatever that red and black striped one is
 
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:( First, I NEVER said or implied anything about Europe, nor did I suggest the US consumer has better protection. I merely agreed that if a product is warrantied for 10 years, that warranty matters in the US too.

Yes you did. You said warranties matter in the US. LOL they don't.

Second you are citing totally different scenarios - that are false by the way! Yes, if you break the warranty seal, you may void the warranty but the fact is, consumers have a great deal of enforceable rights when it comes to faulty products. Unscrupulous companies may try to intimidate consumers but a quick phone call (or simple threat of a quick phone call) to your State Attorney's General Consumer Protection hot line will get you some action.

I have had warranties on components denied for EXACTLY that. Not that the seal was broken, but it was simply damaged - ie: scratched during installation. They said it was tampered with. Can I prove otherwise? Absolutely not. I have had a warranty on a phone denied because a water exposure indicator had activated, even though the phone had never seen water of any kind (it was in a Lifeproof waterproof case). More than likely it was due to condensation, but can I prove that? Absolutely not. Do you think they give a flying crap about threatening to call the AG? Absolutely not - because you can't prove anything, but they can prove that the label was defaced or the WDI tag was activated, thus making your "case" a waste of time.

As for those seals, it depends on where it is and what's inside. Some unscrupulous custom PC builders put those seals on PC cases to scare users to stay out. But those seals are NOT legally enforceable UNLESS the builder provides full and free service for the entire warranty period. That includes free interior cleaning, free labor for adding RAM, drives, extra fans, etc. since those actions are things users can legally do with their computers. In fact, users have a responsibility to keep the interiors of their PCs clean of heat trapping dust.

Opening a power supply is different because there are "No user-serviceable parts inside" a power supply.

Of course I'm talking about the factory applied rice-paper seal on manufactured parts, Forrest. Nobody said ANYTHING about case labels (and are you including HP, Dell, Lenovo, IBM, etc in your classification of "unscrupulous builders"? Because they come with them too.)

For the record, as a custom PC business owner, I've taken a few business law courses to ensure I know my rights as a business owner, and as a consumer. And the consumer has more power than you think. They just have to stand up for themselves if a business does not want to play by those consumer protection laws. And in those cases, that business is not likely to stay in business for very long.

Just.. LOL.
 
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"Well I've had bad luck a time or two trying to get companies to honor a warranty or guarantee. So by default all such warranties and guarantees are null and void in every case. And I'm really butt hurt about it. So I never miss an opportunity to troll someone with my pessimistic attitude and beliefs on the subject. :cry:"

Well good for you. Way to let people walk all over you. Nice job! :rolleyes:
 
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So having 10 years warranty vs 5 years warranty does not matter?
 
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