What GTX 1080 TI to chose?

[Tomgang]

Original i had set me for a Zotac GTX 1080 TI MINI cause of limited space in my case. But after trying called store after store and no one of them cut give me a date for when they are getting them and even try contact Zotac support twice with no answer back at all. I have lots my patiens on getting that card.

After replacing SSD´s and rewire cables in my case i have manage to get some more space for a longer GTX 1080 TI but maximum length is 28 CM or just about 11 inches.

So now i am on the hunt again after another GTX 1080 TI card. But it is not an easy task for sure. Many of the cheap but good cards are sold out in my country (i´m from Denmark) cause of all these stupid miners ripping the market and i have a limited buget of around 850 Euro or around 970 USD + shipping and with the limited length that makes the task very hard to get a desent card.

I have manage to find one good solution that have all the things i want and can afford. Get a EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING directly from EVGA EU store in Germany to 859 euro + shipping. cooler length is 27 CM so it fits in my case now. But my concern is coil whine cause before i have tryed two EVGA GTX 970 and they had coil whine. So any one with EVGA GTX 1080 TI cards that have exsperienced coil whine?

This EVGA card i am looking at right now.

https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6593-KR

And i am open for other GTX 1080 Ti cards aswell, but cause of my low buget and limited length that is a hard task to find i know that. But because im from Denmark please dont link to cards in US. If any thing link from amazone UK, german stores and something like that.

 

[EarthDog]

Seems like you need to do some homework...

Go to you vendor of choice, try and sort by price, then of those, find one that fits, and make a list.........

Coil whine is going to be hit and miss, really. I would bet at least some of ever card has coil whine.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

cause of limited space in my case ... maximum length is 28 CM or just about 11 inches.

In an ANTEC TWELVE HUNDRED?

 

[Vya Domus]

I'd have one advice : do not skimp on cooling on these , you want to get the most out of them at this price. Coil whine is not vendor specific or card specific it's just luck.

 

[Tomgang]

Seems like you need to do some homework...

Go to you vendor of choice, try and sort by price, then of those, find one that fits, and make a list.........

Coil whine is going to be hit and miss, really. I would bet at least some of ever card has coil whine.

That is the problem. I have done my homework. Most of these cards are 29 CM+ in length and by that to long for my case or turns out sold out. I have only manage to find this EVGA card that fits my needs, price range and length of the card.

So the list for me is:
Zotac GTX 1080 TI mini but its impossible to find in any store yet.
EVGA GTX 1080 TI
And thats it. all other i have seen is to long, to exspensive or just sold out in every store i have look at.

In an ANTEC TWELVE HUNDRED?

Yes. This case is stupidly designet in some ways also cable manament is crap for not to forget cleaning dust filters you need to take half of the case apart every time.

I'd have one advice : do not skimp on cooling on these , you want to get the most out of them at this price. Coil whine is not vendor specific or card specific it's just luck.

a greed to that and that its also why i dont want FE or founders edition since they run hot, are noisy (blower style fan are typically noisy) and tends to throttle clocks down as it heats up.

 

[EarthDog]

So get the EVGA.

/thread.

 

[JATownes]

In an ANTEC TWELVE HUNDRED?

I'm curious about this as well. Front rad limiting space maybe? Specs from the 1200 show clearance of 17.5".

Edit: @Tomgang ninja'd the answer.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Yes. This case is stupidly designet in some ways also cable manament is crap for not to forget to clean dust filters so stupidly designet.

Get a new case.

Oh, and I'll recommend against the MSI Armour version. The cooler is not much better than the FE version.

 

[powerspec]

Yes. This case is stupidly designet in some ways also cable manament is crap for not to forget cleaning dust filters you need to take half of the case apart every time.

I have a 1200 myself and can fit a 1080ti FE without any issues. Yes the case sucks for cable management but it has room to fit one. I ran 2x580's at one point with no issues.

 

[Tomgang]

I'm curious about this as well. Front rad limiting space maybe? Specs from the 1200 show clearance of 17.5".

Edit: @Tomgang ninja'd the answer.

Because of harddisk casing taking place in front, that dosent let much space left for a GFX. Se this image here this is by the way not my system.
Se how close that harddrive is to touch the GPU´s.

Get a new case.

Oh, and I'll recommend against the MSI Armour version. The cooler is not much better than the FE version.

New case first gonna happen when i replace this X58 system.

Dont worry msi´s armor cooler is 1 CM to long any way, so it wont fit

I have a 1200 myself and can fit a 1080ti FE without any issues. Yes the case sucks for cable management but it has room to fit one. I ran 2x580's at one point with no issues.

Off cause the FE card fits. that card is 10.5 inches or about 26.7 CM long. The problem is that most after marked cooler are at least 29 CM or above.

And can we then please get back to topic.

But so far it looks lige the EVGA card is the best solution to get then

 

[powerspec]

Off cause the FE card fits. that card is 10.5 inches or about 26.7 CM long. The problem is that most after marked cooler are at least 29 CM or above.

Thats what I'm saying, get an FE and it will fit with no issues Are you wanting an aftermarket cooler?

 

[Tomgang]

Thats what I'm saying, get an FE and it will fit with no issues Are you wanting an aftermarket cooler?

Yes i want one with aftermarked cooler. FE or blower style coolers tends to be more noisy, running hotter (as far i know FE runs at about 84 C) and they tend to throttle as they heat up meaning boost clock goes down with less performance as a side effect. With a card this pricy i want all the performence i can get out of it, that means i will also be overclocking it and then a aftermarket cooler is for the better. Good aftermarked cooler can keep these cards at about 65 to 75 C depending on what cooler used.

The only time i will those FE or a blower style card is if i shut run sli with the cards sitting close together.

 

[EarthDog]

So... move the HDD so it isn't in the way??

Also, seems like the chicken before the egg here with getting a 1080Ti and being on X58. That card will have a notable glass ceiling...though, so do your SLI 970's honestly...

 

[Tomgang]

So... move the HDD so it isn't in the way??

Also, seems like the chicken before the egg here with getting a 1080Ti and being on X58. That card will have a notable glass ceiling...though, so do your SLI 970's honestly...

And there you go again with your glass ceiling as i am al ready aware of. The real fact is that even the newest CPU bottlenecks a GTX 1080 TI at 1080P and some times even af 1440P. dosent matter if its a I7 7700K, I7 6950X or a Ryzen 7 CPU. I have read tons of GTX 1080 TI reviews and many reviews are saying this that they are seing CPU bottleneck at 1080P even with these new CPU´s.

And i am not gonna bay at GTX 1080 TI and only play in 1080P. latter this year i want a 4K screen and then the CPU is not a bottleneck at 4K. At 1080P yes in fact all CPU´s are. 4K not so much.

Oh an my CPU feeds ytwo GTX 970 just fine. Exsample dying light GPU load is 96 to 99 % very stable and never drops below 90 % load unless i use V-sync off cause.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I got 1 each Asus GTX 980 Strix and MSI GTX 980 Gaming in an Antec 300 case. I had to put the cards in a little sideways to get the ends into the HDD cage before being able to plug them into the PCI-e slot, but it worked. TPU's F@H Team I'm wondering if you could do the same?

And can we then please get back to topic.

That EVGA should be fine. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/ W1zzard liked it, but it was noisier than say the 1 cm longer MSI Gaming X Plus version.

 

[Tomgang]

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And there you go again with your glass ceiling as i am al ready aware of. The real fact is that even the newest CPU bottlenecks a GTX 1080 TI at 1080P and some times even af 1440P. dosent matter if its a I7 7700K, I7 6950X or a Ryzen 7 CPU. I have read tons of GTX 1080 TI reviews and many reviews are saying this that they are seing CPU bottleneck at 1080P even with these new CPU´s.

And i am not gonna bay at GTX 1080 TI and only play in 1080P. latter this year i want a 4K screen and then the CPU is not a bottleneck at 4K. At 1080P yes in fact all CPU´s are. 4K not so much.

Oh an my CPU feeds ytwo GTX 970 just fine. Exsample dying light GPU load is 96 to 99 % very stable and never drops below 90 % load unless i use V-sync off cause.

HDD and SSD is al ready replaced as i ride at the top. If not i cut only have a card at about 26 CM max.

 

[EarthDog]

And there you go again with your glass ceiling as i am al ready aware of. The real fact is that even the newest CPU bottlenecks a GTX 1080 TI at 1080P and some times even af 1440P. dosent matter if its a I7 7700K, I7 6950X or a Ryzen 7 CPU. I have read tons of GTX 1080 TI reviews and many reviews are saying this that they are seing CPU bottleneck at 1080P even with these new CPU´s.

And i am not gonna bay at GTX 1080 TI and only play in 1080P. latter this year i want a 4K screen and then the CPU is not a bottleneck at 4K. At 1080P yes in fact all CPU´s are. 4K not so much.

Oh an my CPU feeds ytwo GTX 970 just fine. Exsample dying light GPU load is 96 to 99 % very stable and never drops below 90 % load unless i use V-sync off cause.

That may or may not be true (would love a link supporting that assertion). If I was in your shoes, however, I would put that $800 into Ryzen/7700K and keep your 970's (they will perform better with either chip). Then when you go 4K, Vega will be out, Volta may be out, cards may be cheaper if mining craps the bed... etc.

This is a cart before the horse situation, honestly... especially considering how pricey cards are now with the mining craze.

If not, just get the EVGA since its seemingly the only option that fits and is available and in your price range.

Good luck to you.

 

[Tomgang]

That may or may not be true (would love a link supporting that assertion). If I was in your shoes, however, I would put that $800 into Ryzen/7700K and keep your 970's (they will perform better with either chip). Then when you go 4K, Vega will be out, Volta may be out, cards may be cheaper if mining craps the bed... etc.

This is a cart before the horse situation, honestly... especially considering how pricey cards are now with the mining craze.

If not, just get the EVGA since its seemingly the only option that fits and is available and in your price range.

Good luck to you.

Take a look at this video. I5 750 cpu with at GTX 1080 TI vs. a I7 4790K cpu. not the same CPU but the same thing. masive bottleneck at 1080P but 4K not much difference. And i think the bottleneck with a good overclock I7 980X at 4.3 GHz is even less a bottleneck than that I5 750 is it.

But i think unless some one has a better solution i will go with the EVGA card.

 

[EarthDog]

That doesn't prove the "newest CPUs bottleneck at 1080p" which is the part I would want supported... the guy said he thought that, but... I don't see proof.

Also, there is really no way a 3.7 GHz 7 year old processor is FASTER than a 4.0 GHz new processor... its still 5% slower in the titles that aren't giving him anomalous results. He seems to gloss over both of those facts, really.

I'd grab a new setup, keep your plenty-good-enough cards for now until you are actually ready to move to 4K. Seems like the most prudent considering the BIG picture (cost of the cards and old system).

Anyhoo, I digress.

Edit: you cpu is only less of a bottleneck if it uses more than 4 threads. Otherwise its the same IPC, just clocked higher... but lord knows, its still crushing that 1080ti..

 

[Shou Miko]

If u want great warranty and the ability to swap or take off the cooler EVGA got u covered there I don't think Zotac do this.

I won't recommend MSI's armour version of the GTX 1080 Ti bcs the cooler isn't really the best and the pcb is really close to the gaming x pcb that's a plus.

If u really want Zotac's mini version of the GTX 1080 Ti have u tried Caseking in Germany and OC and Scan in the UK¿

 

[Beastie]

If u want great warranty and the ability to swap or take off the cooler EVGA got u covered there I don't think Zotac do this.

Zotac give a 5 yr guarantee on their 1080TIs which is the longest available AFAIK.

 

[therealmeep]

I feel you on the problem with the 1200, the drive bay design in it was designed in a completely stupid way. If you want to go ghetto and not give a crap about looks just pop out the problematic bay (did this for a problematic 980. The other thing would be to grind off part of the drive bay. As for coil whine on cards its a lottery, ive had/worked with at least 10 evga cards never had a coil whine issue on any of them. On a side note congratulations on actually managing to cable manage an antec 1200! Whenever i try mine none of my cables are long enough.

 

[Tomgang]

If u want great warranty and the ability to swap or take off the cooler EVGA got u covered there I don't think Zotac do this.

I won't recommend MSI's armour version of the GTX 1080 Ti bcs the cooler isn't really the best and the pcb is really close to the gaming x pcb that's a plus.

If u really want Zotac's mini version of the GTX 1080 Ti have u tried Caseking in Germany and OC and Scan in the UK¿

Zotac has 5 year warranty on there card then registret but does not allow change or even remove cooler. EVGA has 3 year on this card and allow to remove cooler with out void warrenty.
Its nut that that zotac card is a must. But after i have gotten place for the EVGA card i woudl off cause better have that, better cooler and properly more silent.

I feel you on the problem with the 1200, the drive bay design in it was designed in a completely stupid way. If you want to go ghetto and not give a crap about looks just pop out the problematic bay (did this for a problematic 980. The other thing would be to grind off part of the drive bay. As for coil whine on cards its a lottery, ive had/worked with at least 10 evga cards never had a coil whine issue on any of them. On a side note congratulations on actually managing to cable manage an antec 1200! Whenever i try mine none of my cables are long enough.

Good to now about EVGA and coil whine. I must have been very unlucky with those two GTX 970 i got then.

Trust me when i say my rearange cables are still long from perfect. Just as you some cables are just not long enough on PSU as well. Twelve hundred is just one big mess when it comes to cable management, yeah it sucks ass to say it least.

This is before, a real mess.

This is after. still not perfect. But better and then i get the 1080 TI so i only run with one card i can take a way a some more cables from the second card. That shut help as well.

Talking about ghetto i think i dit that with my SSD´s after replacing them. Not pretty but dosent matter since its the back side and when the back plate is on no one ses it any way. You need to do what needs to bee done to get it to work right.
But yeah twelve hundred is in more than one way a pain in the ass to work with.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

You're going to make a nice GTX 1080 Ti suffer the indignation of THAT?

I would put that $800 into Ryzen/7700K and keep your 970's (they will perform better with either chip). Then when you go 4K, Vega will be out, Volta may be out, cards may be cheaper if mining craps the bed... etc.

Much wisdom there.

 

[Vayra86]

Zotac has 5 year warranty on there card then registret but does not allow change or even remove cooler. EVGA has 3 year on this card and allow to remove cooler with out void warrenty.
Its nut that that zotac card is a must. But after i have gotten place for the EVGA card i woudl off cause better have that, better cooler and properly more silent.



Good to now about EVGA and coil whine. I must have been very unlucky with those two GTX 970 i got then.

Trust me when i say my rearange cables are still long from perfect. Just as you some cables are just not long enough on PSU as well. Twelve hundred is just one big mess when it comes to cable management, yeah it sucks ass to say it least.

This is before, a real mess.

This is after. still not perfect. But better and then i get the 1080 TI so i only run with one card i can take a way a some more cables from the second card. That shut help as well.

Talking about ghetto i think i dit that with my SSD´s after replacing them. Not pretty but dosent matter since its the back side and when the back plate is on no one ses it any way. You need to do what needs to bee done to get it to work right.
But yeah twelve hundred is in more than one way a pain in the ass to work with.

Holy crap dude, you really need to get priorities straight here.

Even IF you fit that 1080ti in there, that case is so cramped you're gonna suffocate the card. (I speak from experience and from a much more spacey case situation with a 1080 that has a lower TDP but still wins 3-5 C on warm days with a case open situation...) I'll also have you know that even my 1080 is bottlenecking @ 1080p on a 4.2 Ghz 3570k. By about 5-10% depending on game. 1080ti is 30% faster. You can look at youtube all day, but take my word for it mate.

Case > new platform > new GPU. @EarthDog is spot on here. Remember you came here for sensible advice, if you got your mind set on that EVGA why bother making a topic.