AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

[hellrazor]

Have you tried using 1 stick and putting it in the second memory slot?

 

[_JP_]

Yes I did. DIMMA2, by my board's manual.
But it made no difference in behaviour from trying either on all other slots

 

[Chicken Patty]

Okay so, I feel dumb right now. The kit I bought is not on the QVL list.
That might be the very reason it doesn't post, but I'm still wondering how the hell I made the mistake because I know I checked for compatibility

I have always used RAM that is not on the QVL from the get go on two different boards, you'd have to be s**t out of luck for it to be that. But then again, Ryzen builds are very picky in regards to RAM. What cooler is on the board right now?

 

[_JP_]

The noctua, but for further troubleshooting I'm going to use the stock HSF.
I just really wanted it to work.

 

[Chicken Patty]

The noctua, but for further troubleshooting I'm going to use the stock HSF.
I just really wanted it to work.

Try the stock heat sink. I am maybe being paranoid after my issues on a different board, but just give it a go to be sure. What about a visual inspection? Any damage or anything out of place you can see?

 

[Norton]

The noctua, but for further troubleshooting I'm going to use the stock HSF.
I just really wanted it to work.

I saw 2 items in the MSI forum that may help...

- give the board at least 35-45 sec to try and boot (this may be related to the "learning" function for the ram- my Asrock is supposed to try a few cycles to boot if ram settings aren't compatible)

- try your gpu in the lower PCIE slot

Not sure if this will help but it may be worth a try?

 

[_JP_]

 

[Norton]

What did you find/ what was the problem?

 

[_JP_]

I guess I can try to excuse myself for being tired (as I've been lately, rest has been optional), but every try I've made to troubleshoot resulted in the same. Followed your recommendations after I ran out of ideas, but nothing.
Until I noticed I hadn't touched the board's battery. It was still shiny.

So I popped it off for a few minutes, then assembled everything, plugged it in and powered it on. For starters, fans only rev'd to max for 5 seconds or so, then slowed down. That alone was an improvement, so I waited.
Sure enough, a minute or so later, that shows-up on screen

EDIT: Oh, and like I figured. It has the first released UEFI.

 

[R-T-B]

I guess I can try to excuse myself for being tired (as I've been lately, rest has been optional), but every try I've made to troubleshoot resulted in the same. Followed your recommendations after I ran out of ideas, but nothing.
Until I noticed I hadn't touched the board's battery. It was still shiny.

So I popped it off for a few minutes, then assembled everything, plugged it in and powered it on. For starters, fans only rev'd to max for 5 seconds or so, then slowed down. That alone was an improvement, so I waited.
Sure enough, a minute or so later, that shows-up on screen

EDIT: Oh, and like I figured. It has the first released UEFI.

Dem early UEFI's man...

 

[_JP_]

I felt silly because it is an old habit of mine to do both, short the CMOS header and take the battery off, for every step of troubleshooting a non-POSTing machine before powering it.
But this time, for no apparent reason of mine, I was just using the jumper and testing the definition of insanity...
Makes sense that it worked since none of the parts seem faulty or DOA, but this gave quite a knot on my brain. At least, some different reaction should happen with all the hardware changes I made, but guess not.
Like you say @R-T-B , dem UEFI's

 

[Chicken Patty]

All that matters is that it's working. Congrats man! Now go enjoy it

 

[GoldenX]

Should I get a R3 and keep my HD7750 or wait for the APUs?
Anyone remember one of the old leaks where AMD showed performance of 15 or 25w notebook Zen processors against Intel, anyone with the link? Can't seem to find it.

 

[purecain]

theres a new bios out for the ch6... adds the stilts b-die memory profiles. I just managed this...

 

[Chicken Patty]

Still haven't updated the BIOS, but this was my first boot with the new RAM. I'll have to clock the FSB to get more though

 

[_JP_]

So, Windows 10 loaded generic AHCI drivers for the storage controller and the Crimson package included none...odd.

Should I get a R3 and keep my HD7750 or wait for the APUs?
Anyone remember one of the old leaks where AMD showed performance of 15 or 25w notebook Zen processors against Intel, anyone with the link? Can't seem to find it.

Too soon too call, imo, but I would wager the APUs should have a slight edge depending on the RAM, over your HD 7750.
If my A8 was anything to go by, it really liked high RAM speeds.
Can't seem to find that leak too.

 

[GoldenX]

So, Windows 10 loaded generic AHCI drivers for the storage controller and the Crimson package included none...odd.

Go to device manager and make the ahci driver scan the c:\AMD folder. Sometimes happens.

 

[phanbuey]

so pulled back to 3950 for daily operation at 1.4v 4.0 was stable at 1.45v but couldnt make it through a prime 95 small fft without thermal shutdown... so bye 50Mhz... ill miss you *sniff*.

Seriously considering just leaving the 1800x at stock and let it do its xfr thing...

I think with the clocking ability of Ryzen, AMD managed to make only the low models attractive to overclocking.

Aye.

 

[GoldenX]

I think with the clocking ability of Ryzen, AMD managed to make only the low models attractive to overclocking.

 

[_JP_]

Go to device manager and make the ahci driver scan the c:\AMD folder. Sometimes happens.

So that worked for one of the AHCI controllers detected. But there should be only one, the X370, so...
I didn't thought of that because I really assumed the AMD package would take care of things, since it didn't list any AHCI controllers, else Win10 would take care of it...guess not.

Couple of things:
1 - Haven't bumped the RAM to 3200MHz. Call me silly, UEFI is updated to 5.30 but I want to read more about it first. (If I should go manual or A-XMP)
2 - No idea what the "Windows WHQL" option in the UEFI does. Online, people seem to have difficulty booting into Windows with that enabled (I have it off).
2 - Turbo must have a FIA restrictor...doesn't go above 3,2~3,4GHz. Thermals are normal during gaming (~50ºC).
3 - One of my fans started chirping once I set a speed profile in the UEFI. I suspect it's one of the NF-P14Ss
4 - By the time I installed Windows, shutting down, going into sleep or rebooting, makes weird click/snapping sounds. Now...I know about buck converters and coils with dried-up glue, but still... It sounds a bit more aggressive than it should be. I think it's static....and I do think I left spread-spectrum on...

 

[purecain]

I had to return my first ch6 due to static... i'd never had a board give me electric shocks... straight back in the box.....

I'm looking at the new asus xenon board with a threadripper cpu aswell...wow

 

[Cvrk]

Trying to figure out if i need a Ryzen 1600x , or a Ryzen 1700x , or a Ryzen 1800x.
I actually think i need a Coffe Lake, but for that there is much more waiting to be done. I have been waiting for a long time, ever since last year with Skylake .
Prices have been dropping, for real. And i once again, gathered enough money, to buy a new computer. It's never that easy. Mainly cuz poor people (myself included) tend to stick with the build for long time.
I almost thought that a higher clocked 1600x is the answer for gaming. With just 2 cores short,but with 200 hz more. But if i OC (exactly what i wanna do) with 110$ i get the 2 cores extra back and same speed 3,6 Ghz for the 1700x. Since right now the Ryzen 1700x is actually 60$ cheaper than the Kaby lake i7 7700k.
But why OC the 1700x ,when you can OC the 1800x and be close to that 4Ghz but this time without losing the 2 extra cores. Back few months the 1800x was 760$ (my country)...now dropped to 525$ . Can't convince myself that i need the 1800x , since the difference would be almost exactly the money for a motherboard.
My safe bet would be 1700x + motherboard ,for the same money as 1800x.

Witch brings me to ,why i need your guys help: please convince me that i am the biggest idiot to waste my hard earned money on a Ryzen, and i should w8 for Coffe Lake!!! (screaming from inside) @Frag Maniac
What motherboard to buy?
Few of you here on this thread own a Ryzen, witch means you also have a motherboard for it.
I hard googled. It was not regular google ,it was the hard version... and the results say MSI now a days brings the fastest updates to their bios. The motherboard that i want is the Msi x370 gaming pro. But boy, it's an expensive one. Asking myself if i need a X370 ?

Looking at the differences https://www.msi.com/comparison/motherboard Both motherboards (MSI X370 Gaming Pro & MSi b350 gaming Pro) can OC the ram to 3200 - if you are that lucky - since ram is very important to Ryzen. I get 2 DIMS instead of 4...i only need 2. Unfortunately the b350 is a MicroATX, but youtube shows that a big graphics card and a big cpu cooler can fit (almost).
I want the bequite Dark Rock Pro ,as cpu cooler... i already contacted bequite, a dude from there replayed to my mail,said they don't need a motherboard recipe ,and will send the AM4 kit for free...gaved him the address , haven't got the kit yet (it's been 4 weeks).

In your experience guys ,if your gonna OC, will a x370 board will handle extra electric current better ? Will a x370 receiver bios updates faster,just cuz is the high-end product ?

This guys explains a bit , he mentiones that the x370 cips get updates faster - Is this true ? Can you guys confirm ?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3175...crucial-differences-in-every-am4-chipset.html

Seriously,do i need a x370 motherboard for the Ryzen ? (it's twice more expensive)
This is where i choose my parts https://www.evomag.ro/Componente-PC.../Socket:AM4,Format:ATX,Ordonare:PretCrescator

 

[HTC]

I want the bequite Dark Rock Pro ,as cpu cooler... i already contacted bequite, a dude from there replayed to my mail,said they don't need a motherboard recipe ,and will send the AM4 kit for free...gaved him the address , haven't got the kit yet (it's been 4 weeks).

I requested an AM4 mounting kit to be able to use my NH-C14 with my R5 1600 this Saturday: got a reply today stating it's on the way.

I really like Noctua company: they are a bit expensive but the quality of their products is there and their customer support is top notch!

 

[Cvrk]

the answer to my request came within 24 hours(from bequite) as well. the delivery ,never. maybe if you are in a different country....

GOLDEN: OC Memory on Ryzen, and this guy is smart!

 

[HTC]

the answer to my request came within 24 hours(from bequite) as well. the delivery ,never. maybe if you are in a different country....

Ouch

In my case:

The parts have been shipped by standard air mail. Please expect a delivery time of 4-10 working days within Europe and 10-18 working days overseas. Tracking number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX

They gave me tracking information: we shall see!

Didn't they give you tracking information for the package in your case? Perhaps it's stranded somewhere?