The air in the Forums seems to have shifted?

[Deleted member 3]

+1 OP. I haven't posted as much as many others but have been around a long time, and I notice increasing animosity among users. I understand flame wars between team red, green and Intel, AMD, but usually these threads turn into, "no, you're stupid and wrong because x, y, z.". Gotta admit it can make things exhausting considering all of the other foolishness ongoing in Western society today. I just want to read about tech stuff and learn from smarter people than me from time to time. Let's just try to be nicer and use logic, not personal attacks to make our arguments.

Be a dear and tell everyone what "western foolishness" you're referring to when comparing to some nerds discussing their chips.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

^ That's what's been missing...
DanTheBanjoman.... We need a lot more of that.

 

[Deleted member 3]

^ That's what's been missing...
DanTheBanjoman.... We need a lot more of that.

You're being similarly vague.

 

[BumbleBee]

This song is appropriate for this thread. It should be titled "In the Forum's Air Tonight"

silly

 

[erocker]

Hi Dan.

 

[de.das.dude]

make me a mod, ill make sure these plebs *cough* posters are clean

 

[Toothless]

make me a mod, ill make sure these plebs *cough* posters are clean

But you're a pro Indian MODder

 

[de.das.dude]

But you're a pro Indian MODder

yeah, i need to change that im in the MNC now

 

[_JP_]

We used to have more patience, while the age in majority was higher, we were younger. IMO.
And little rascals like me were kept in line very strictly, simply not because of insta warnings or bans...we were just ignored.
Threads were locked way more abruptly too, instead of clean-ups. It was common sight for @erocker , @Mussels , @Black Panther , @BUCK NASTY and @Easy Rhino ending useless arguments posthaste.
Thing is, to be taken seriously demands respect, something the Internet lacks lately. Users had to work a bit (fill-out sys specs, get prints and/or photos) but did get our help.
Help with builds were first and foremost best price/performance ratio instead of brand allegiance.

make me a mod, ill make sure these plebs *cough* posters are clean

Um no.
Moderation left to you would turn this place into a racket with payouts in "Thanks".
Don't think for a second that just because GN is gone, your track record is too

 

[Warrgarbl]

Far too many people don't know how to debate a point without being personal. It's understood we will have different opinions on issues or how to help someone, but some need to stop acting so entitled that it's unheard of that they might be wrong.

Then again, as my friend I sometimes disagree with above, @the54thvoid says, maybe it's not rudeness and lack of social skills, maybe there are professional trolls among us.

This exactly. People should be able to abstract the factual from the personal level. Maybe I'm getting old, but, to me, it seems as if this is something that's getting more and more lost. As soon as things slide down to the personal level a discussion is, in effect, dead, because people confuse their subjective feelings with objective facts.

 

[qubit]

Far too many people don't know how to debate a point without being personal. It's understood we will have different opinions on issues or how to help someone, but some need to stop acting so entitled that it's unheard of that they might be wrong.

Then again, as my friend I sometimes disagree with above, @the54thvoid says, maybe it's not rudeness and lack of social skills, maybe there are professional trolls among us.

Unfortunately that does sound likely.

 

[jboydgolfer]

From what I've noticed, often it's not so much out right personal attacks that cause things like this to kick off, but rather the wording of a point, or a possible miss-interpretation of how something is worded.

Example:
Product A has significantly higher capabilities when rendering 3-D images then product B.

Reply:
If you took time to look into the technical details of product B, you would know that it out preforms product A, in most circumstances.

Now the person that reply was directed at can possibly misconstrue the first section of that post (underlined) as a jab at not doing his homework and not knowing the subject matter , which he may take offense to ,& there the snowball begins to roll downhill.

The person who posted that comment very likely meant no ill will it was just the choice of words and due to that as well as the variable of interpretation ,you end up with two people who are angry at each other. If you throw in things like people who are socially awkward or inept at communicating with others in real life, that effects how they communicate with others online as well....things like aspergers syndrome for example. Something you may account for if speaking to a person in real life with context, or mannerisms,are lost in text communication and the words are the only means to communicate a great deal (which in my opinion they arent capable of doing, since human interactions are very complex)

The majority of all of this that I've explained could easily be avoided if people weren't so quickly offended, but I have to admit I've been pissed off by the way people word things in a condescending manner before too ....but I just tend to stop communicating with that person. Noones perfect

Just my 10¢

 

[EarthDog]

Don't forget the bravery anonymity brings. I'd imagine half the people who post like that (consistently - we all have bad days/moments) wouldn't dare do so when in person. There was a period here where I was tired of walking on eggshells because of the hypersensitive so I just dealt the hand I had in my head without thinking. That hasn't changed much, honestly, but I try to word things with facts and try to minimize any dumping on people... though, I have my limits.............. I cannot stand the inherently lazy (give me settings/I don't want to learn. I prefer to teach a man to fish), oblivious, and those over zealous posters who try to help/throw their .02 in, but really have no clue.

 

[the54thvoid]

From what I've noticed, often it's not so much out right personal attacks that cause things like this to kick off, but rather the wording of a point, or a possible miss-interpretation of how something is worded.

Example:
Product A has significantly higher capabilities when rendering 3-D images then product B.

Reply:
If you took time to look into the technical details of product B, you would know that it out preforms product A, in most circumstances.

Now the person that reply was directed at can possibly misconstrue the first section of that post (underlined) as a jab at not doing his homework and not knowing the subject matter , which he may take offense to ,& there the snowball begins to roll downhill.

The person who posted that comment very likely meant no ill will it was just the choice of words and due to that as well as the variable of interpretation ,you end up with two people who are angry at each other. If you throw in things like people who are socially awkward or inept at communicating with others in real life, that effects how they communicate with others online as well....things like aspergers syndrome for example. Something you may account for if speaking to a person in real life with context, or mannerisms,are lost in text communication and the words are the only means to communicate a great deal (which in my opinion they arent capable of doing, since human interactions are very complex)

The majority of all of this that I've explained could easily be avoided if people weren't so quickly offended, but I have to admit I've been pissed off by the way people word things in a condescending manner before too ....but I just tend to stop communicating with that person. Noones perfect

Just my 10¢

You're talking about me right? I knew it. I'm utterly offended by your sneaky, vague, almost non-existent threat to me, or maybe it wasn't me but.... I FEEL it was.

j/k.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I'd imagine half the people who post like that (consistently - we all have bad days/moments) wouldn't dare do so when in person.

I personally find that often is the case for me. I could count on one hand and not use all the fingers the amount of times I've had people be openly aggressive to me(while in my reach). Not counting my boxing/wrestling/fighting days

if everyone acted like they were standing next to the people they spoke with, things would be more "cordial"

 

[Easy Rhino]

Wait, this thread is still happening???

 

[phanbuey]

I personally find that often is the case for me. I could count on one hand and not use all the fingers the amount of times I've had people be openly aggressive to me(while in my reach). Not counting my boxing/wrestling/fighting days

if everyone acted like they were standing next to the people they spoke with, things would be more "cordial"

The solution is to invent a device that would allow us to punch each other remotely.

 

[de.das.dude]

We used to have more patience, while the age in majority was higher, we were younger. IMO.
And little rascals like me were kept in line very strictly, simply not because of insta warnings or bans...we were just ignored.
Threads were locked way more abruptly too, instead of clean-ups. It was common sight for @erocker , @Mussels , @Black Panther , @BUCK NASTY and @Easy Rhino ending useless arguments posthaste.
Thing is, to be taken seriously demands respect, something the Internet lacks lately. Users had to work a bit (fill-out sys specs, get prints and/or photos) but did get our help.
Help with builds were first and foremost best price/performance ratio instead of brand allegiance.

Um no.
Moderation left to you would turn this place into a racket with payouts in "Thanks".
Don't think for a second that just because GN is gone, your track record is too

but i was a kid back then. now i am a full fledged adult

 

[jboydgolfer]

The solution is to invent a device that would allow us to punch each other remotely.

I don't think violence is ever a good answer ,whether in person or online (if the latter is in anyway possible )

I think that it's not so much a fear of being hurt ,but rather a sense of accountability , being more mindful because we could be held accountable for the words that come out..... so we think a little more about what we're saying.

A good example would be multiplayer gaming. Some of the most vile and general shitty human behavior can be found in multiplayer gaming mostly with how people treat each other and how they speak to each other. When I was a kid if you were playing a multiplayer game , You played it with your elbow touching your opponents elbow. That presence gives humanity to your opponent and it makes it a lot harder to berate and treat them as something less than a person when they're right next to you. No I don't think it's violence I think it's kindness.

It would serve everybody to remember that it's another person you're talking to with loved ones and stress and a job ,someone not too much different than you. ( as corny as it may be)

Of course there are just plain old assholes out there who can't be trusted to see others as equals and for that I would agree that a remote punching device would be wonderful or possibly some type of requirement to register a current address to use the Internet I've been saying that for years

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I think something people need to remember as well is that many members are on the Autistic Spectrum.

Sometimes they are not being smug or insulting but it may come out that way.

 

[TheMailMan78]

TPU in a nutshell. I picture @erocker being the adult in this situation.

 

[Deleted member 3]

make me a mod, ill make sure these plebs *cough* posters are clean

I'd thank you for you post, but well... I just didn't.

 

[dorsetknob]

make me a mod, ill make sure these plebs *cough* posters are clean

ERrrr You had the Chance and Opportunity a while ago to Put yourself forward as a Candidate
Funny just reviewed the thread
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/moderator-vacancies-volunteers-wanted.233241/
And your not there
Maybe next time Eh

 

[Xzibit]

ERrrr You had the Chance and Opportunity a while ago to Put yourself forward as a Candidate
Funny just reviewed the thread
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/moderator-vacancies-volunteers-wanted.233241/
And your not there
Maybe next time Eh

Funny thing about that, the offenders are wanting to get in the Mod position.

 

[EarthDog]

Funny thing about that, the offenders are wanting to get in the Mod position.

haha, true.. true...