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A new version of Bitcoin has been mined for the first time in the crypto-currency's history.
Bitcoin Cash is the result of months of debate and development over how the currency would continue to evolve.
Fears of large swings in the value of Bitcoin have so far not been realised - but some exchanges are still adapting to the new currency.
One expert said the process had gone smoothly so far and pointed out that trade in Bitcoin Cash seemed "robust".
Bitcoin Cash was developed as a measure to increase the capacity of Bitcoin's underlying technology, the blockchain - a digital ledger that records every single transaction.
Bigger blocks
Because the old blockchain could only have one megabyte (MB) of data added to it every 10 minutes, transactions have come to be processed at slower rates.
Bitcoin Cash blocks can be as large as 8MB, which its proponents hope will help to solve this problem.

Yesterday, Bitcoin Cash was officially born when block number 478559 - at just under 2MB in size - was mined.
No major issues have so far been detected following the split although a few exchanges and wallets have had minor technical issues with supporting Bitcoin Cash initially, said Dr Garrick Hileman, research fellow at the Cambridge Centre for Alternative Finance.
"A market seems to be emerging for Bitcoin Cash that looks to be relatively robust," he told the BBC.
The fresh-faced crypto-currency was trading comfortably above $400 (£300) about 12 hours after it was created.
Bitcoin itself saw a modest fall in price on Tuesday, but was still above $2,700 (£2,000) at 10:00 BST on Wednesday.
Thanks to its larger block size, Bitcoin Cash requires more computer storage space from parties wishing to take part in the process of mining.
Mining involves computers being tasked with solving difficult mathematical problems in order to authorise transactions on the blockchain.
Miners receive new bitcoins as a reward for this work - making it lucrative - and it has also been something open to individuals in the past, because the cost of small scale mining equipment has been relatively low.
That could change thanks to Bitcoin Cash.
"Bigger players with access to server farms and big budgets will have no problem running bigger nodes, but smaller operators could be squeezed out," said Dr Hileman.
"Will companies dominate Bitcoin Cash more than Bitcoin? We're going to see this in the flesh now, how this will play out."
Pure speculation?
And there are other issues to ponder - not least the decision by one of the biggest crypto-currency exchanges, Coinbase, not to support Bitcoin Cash.
"Seriously look at Bitcoin Cash going up. If you kept your [Bitcoin] at @coinbase and are not getting any you must be pretty fed up right now," tweeted one trader who watched the split unfold.
The split might also make it harder to establish Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash as currencies useful for commerce, suggested Vili Lehdonvirta at the Oxford Internet Institute.
This is because a greater number of currencies each with a smaller number of users are less likely to be accepted in lots of different places, he explained.
But Bitcoin traders may simply be interested in speculation - buying and selling coins in the hope they rise in value.
"In which case actual usefulness doesn't matter," he said.
from BBC News
 

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Meh, it looks like my Nicehash mining operation is still going normally so... I'm good. Now I only hope the market improves and the other coins go up in price again so I can make more than I am now.
 
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I finally got my miner running...phew! Quick question, my 1060s are only running about $1.20 a day right now on Equihash. I am curious what everyone else is getting at the moment and if that is normal. I thought that NiceHash mined what was most profitable but this thread has become so large I have lost track of all the good info in it. Thanks!
 
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My 7970 mining at 286 sols is producing 1,35$ a day, to give you a rough idea. That's without removing energy cost.
 

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I finally got my miner running...phew! Quick question, my 1060s are only running about $1.20 a day right now on Equihash. I am curious what everyone else is getting at the moment and if that is normal. I thought that NiceHash mined what was most profitable but this thread has become so large I have lost track of all the good info in it. Thanks!

This is 6 of them. They are mining ethereum through nicehash though.

 
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Ok, so it looks like it is right on track then...thanks for the replies guys!

EDIT: Do you manually have yours set for ethereum?

This is 6 of them. They are mining ethereum through nicehash though.
 

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Mine are set for ethereum or z cash it'll flip between those
 
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You can select which algorithms you want to run in nicehash by checking the checkboxes. Nicehash checks the profitability of the selected algorithms every so often and automatically selects the best one.
 
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A new version of Bitcoin has been mined for the first time in the crypto-currency's history.
Bitcoin Cash is the result of months of debate and development over how the currency would continue to evolve.
Fears of large swings in the value of Bitcoin have so far not been realised - but some exchanges are still adapting to the new currency.
One expert said the process had gone smoothly so far and pointed out that trade in Bitcoin Cash seemed "robust".
Bitcoin Cash was developed as a measure to increase the capacity of Bitcoin's underlying technology, the blockchain - a digital ledger that records every single transaction.
Bigger blocks
Because the old blockchain could only have one megabyte (MB) of data added to it every 10 minutes, transactions have come to be processed at slower rates.
Bitcoin Cash blocks can be as large as 8MB, which its proponents hope will help to solve this problem.

Yesterday, Bitcoin Cash was officially born when block number 478559 - at just under 2MB in size - was mined.
No major issues have so far been detected following the split although a few exchanges and wallets have had minor technical issues with supporting Bitcoin Cash initially, said Dr Garrick Hileman, research fellow at the Cambridge Centre for Alternative Finance.
"A market seems to be emerging for Bitcoin Cash that looks to be relatively robust," he told the BBC.
The fresh-faced crypto-currency was trading comfortably above $400 (£300) about 12 hours after it was created.
Bitcoin itself saw a modest fall in price on Tuesday, but was still above $2,700 (£2,000) at 10:00 BST on Wednesday.
Thanks to its larger block size, Bitcoin Cash requires more computer storage space from parties wishing to take part in the process of mining.
Mining involves computers being tasked with solving difficult mathematical problems in order to authorise transactions on the blockchain.
Miners receive new bitcoins as a reward for this work - making it lucrative - and it has also been something open to individuals in the past, because the cost of small scale mining equipment has been relatively low.
That could change thanks to Bitcoin Cash.
"Bigger players with access to server farms and big budgets will have no problem running bigger nodes, but smaller operators could be squeezed out," said Dr Hileman.
"Will companies dominate Bitcoin Cash more than Bitcoin? We're going to see this in the flesh now, how this will play out."
Pure speculation?
And there are other issues to ponder - not least the decision by one of the biggest crypto-currency exchanges, Coinbase, not to support Bitcoin Cash.
"Seriously look at Bitcoin Cash going up. If you kept your [Bitcoin] at @coinbase and are not getting any you must be pretty fed up right now," tweeted one trader who watched the split unfold.
The split might also make it harder to establish Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash as currencies useful for commerce, suggested Vili Lehdonvirta at the Oxford Internet Institute.
This is because a greater number of currencies each with a smaller number of users are less likely to be accepted in lots of different places, he explained.
But Bitcoin traders may simply be interested in speculation - buying and selling coins in the hope they rise in value.
"In which case actual usefulness doesn't matter," he said.
from BBC News

A few days later and bitcoin cash appears to be dying while BTC is rallying.
 
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A few days later and bitcoin cash appears to be dying while BTC is rallying.
It seems the initial sale (of the BCH people received) is over and both matker cap and price stabilized (at ~$210 and 3.5 bln USD).
Based on market cap it's the 4th largest crypto at the moment. Based on 24h volume: 6th.
These figures are 10 and 5 times larger than those of the - quite popular - Zcash.

You call this dying? ;-) Give BCH another month - we'll see what's what.
 
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It seems the initial sale (of the BCH people received) is over and both matker cap and price stabilized (at ~$210 and 3.5 bln USD).
Based on market cap it's the 4th largest crypto at the moment. Based on 24h volume: 6th.
These figures are 10 and 5 times larger than those of the - quite popular - Zcash.

You call this dying? ;-) Give BCH another month - we'll see what's what.

It's lost half it's market value in the month of it's IPO. If this was a stock, it would be called "dismal performance" if not "dying."

I'm confident it will die (and by die, I mean go down to less than 1% of it's initial value, I doubt it will ever vanish), though again, having no investment it will be interesting to watch. I think the remaining value is probably just holdouts who haven't cashed out yet, or realized they even can do so.

My reasons are basically it lacks a distinguishing quality. Anything without a distinguishing quality in crypto is dead on arrival (it's larger block size is due to be added to bitcoin in due time, making it a moot point).
 
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It's lost half it's market value in the month of it's IPO. If this was a stock, it would be called "dismal performance" if not "dying."
This is a very simple effect, actually.
The initial price was nowhere near the fair value. Why? Because people got BCH for free - they didn't have to pay for it.
It needed a few days to stabilize. It did. Now it needs a few weeks to get actual traction.

We would see exactly the same behaviour of a stock, if it was given to people for free at IPO. And it does happen from time to time.
Few years ago a large state-owned mining company went public in Poland. Just 15% (compared to BCH's 100%) of shares were distributed among employees - partly for free (if they worked for 10+ years) and partly for a low price of around $18 per share. The IPO price was ~$50, but it dropped by almost 30% as soon as employees could sell their shares.
 
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This is a very simple effect, actually.
The initial price was nowhere near the fair value. Why? Because people got BCH for free - they didn't have to pay for it.
It needed a few days to stabilize. It did. Now it needs a few weeks to get actual traction.

We would see exactly the same behaviour of a stock, if it was given to people for free at IPO. And it does happen from time to time.
Few years ago a large state-owned mining company went public in Poland. Just 15% (compared to BCH's 100%) of shares were distributed among employees - partly for free (if they worked for 10+ years) and partly for a low price of around $18 per share. The IPO price was ~$50, but it dropped by almost 30% as soon as employees could sell their shares.

Fair point. I still don't see a future for it honestly, but who knows? It's crypto.
 

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Makes me wonder about the true motivation behind creating Bitcoin Cash. What was wrong with BTC? Did somebody just want to manipulate the market on a large scale to make a quick buck?
 
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Makes me wonder about the true motivation behind creating Bitcoin Cash. What was wrong with BTC? Did somebody just want to manipulate the market on a large scale to make a quick buck?
Meh, people were supposedly upset with some technical design decisions in bitcoin being delayed and implemented them immediately instead. As for true motivations, your guess is as good as mine.
 
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Meh, people were supposedly upset with some technical design decisions in bitcoin being delayed and implemented them immediately instead. As for true motivations, your guess is as good as mine.
Does it have to be mined with ASIC also or gpu's?
 
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Hi all

Don't know if you already know about this , it worked for me improving my hash rates about 3MHs.
 

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Hi all

Don't know if you already know about this , it worked for me improving my hash rates about 3MHs.

I have a 480 heading back from rma will give it a shot
 

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Are there any tweaks for nvidia cards? Best driver to use?

This AMD drivers are to fix Ethash DAG epoch issue, witch I believe does not affect Nvidia cards.
 
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Hi all

Don't know if you already know about this , it worked for me improving my hash rates about 3MHs.

havent tried it yet as it is not official.. when i can get it from the official amd site ill try it.

i have two bios modded 470s and run 16.11 drivers, i would have to run the pixel patcher to have those run on 17.x drivers. so i will wait a bit.
 
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