New PC dreams / switching sides from Intel to AMD.

[qubit]

Correct, that psu is Seasonic inside. I understand @qubit 's concern since some of Cooler Master psu's are not built that well, not the case with the one you are looking at imho

Here are a couple of reviews for it
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/V1000/

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=344

Actually, I misread his post and thought that he had a Be Quiet PSU and hence didn't know what it was like. Thanks for the links.

Indeed some of those CMs are not that great though.

 

[EarthDog]

Once again, if you already got high idle temps your load temps will be surely high as well....

Yes, it will be high, but, doesn't mean they will be over any limits.. IDLE TEMPS DON'T MATTER (much). Get it through your heads people.


Not to mention, temp sensors are less accurate the further away they are from TJMax (like at idle...). I am certain you've seen idle temps below ambient before, right?

 

[zbam]

No other ideas people ? I am overwhelmed by the work, give me something else to think about please

 

[P4-630]

"Intel Core i5 6500 3.20Ghz up to 3.8Ghz"

@zbam did you OC that CPU?

I got the same CPU, mine goes up to about 3.68GHz or so (small OC due to XMP memory profile).

 

[zbam]

"Intel Core i5 6500 3.20Ghz up to 3.8Ghz"

@zbam did you OC that CPU?

I got the same CPU, mine goes up to about 3.68GHz or so (small OC due to XMP memory profile).

Well maybe it was a typo or I overclocked and forgot about it I will check it when I go home. But is it even possible just to overclock the boost frequency solely ?

 

[P4-630]

Well maybe it was a typo or I overclocked and forgot about it I will check it when I go home. But is it even possible just to overclock the boost frequency solely ?

No, it's a locked CPU, but the CPU BCLK can be overclocked if you got the right BIOS but then it will only run at it's highest speed all the time I believe.

 

[zbam]

No, it's a locked CPU, but the CPU BCLK can be overclocked if you got the right BIOS but then it will only run at it's highest speed all the time I believe.

Yes I know about the little details for overclocking a locked CPU, I remember watching videos and reading about it when I first bought the CPU. Tried it myself and ended up failing So it was probably a typo, I will fix it thank you

And are you happy about i5 6500 generally ?

 

[P4-630]

And are you happy about i5 6500 generally ?

It's working well sofar paired with my GTX1070, just with GTA V and mods CPU usage is very high when ingame set at 85Hz (I have a 1440p G-Sync 165Hz monitor).
For GTA V with mods I would like a i7 6700K instead, I may upgrade to this CPU next year.
I also have a lot of racing games, it's fine for that.

Overall it's a fine little CPU, good for any game at 60Hz (60fps).

 

[zbam]

It's working well sofar paired with my GTX1070, just with GTA V and mods CPU usage is very high when ingame set at 85Hz (I have a 1440p G-Sync 165Hz monitor).
For GTA V with mods I would like a i7 6700K instead, I may upgrade to this CPU next year.
I also have a lot of racing games, it's fine for that.

Overall it's a fine little CPU, good for any game at 60Hz (60fps).

Why not 7700k instead of 6700k ?
When I first had the CPU I tried to stream with x264 encoder on twitch, which did not end well really distinctive FPS drop in games then I discovered the quicksync, enabled the iGPU from bios and started to stream with it. Even though it is iGPU doing the encoding work, it still affected my games but so less FPS drop compared to x264 encoder, everything was fine until I start playing GTA5 and H1Z1 KOTK. Even with quicksync it sometimes stuttered, the gameplay of these two games. But as you stated it is a fine little CPU just for gaming.
Are you using stock cooler ? And I am still using the preapplied thermal pasted stock cooler, the maximum temperature I saw was 78 C degree.

 

[P4-630]

Are you using stock cooler ?

No, I have a CM212 Evo with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM and I use a Scythe fan on it which runs at a constant 1100 rpm or so.
The highest CPU core temps under load I have seen just over 50 degrees C during summer. (RealTemp)

 

[zbam]

No, I have a CM212 Evo with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM and I use a Scythe fan on it which runs at a constant 1100 rpm or so.
The highest CPU core temps under load I have seen just over 50 degrees C during summer. (RealTemp)

holy cow that is perfect I thought stock cooler was not that bad.

 

[P4-630]

Why not 7700k instead of 6700k ?

2 reasons:

• I'm on windows 8.1 and it seems with a 7700K you need to use windows 10 only, which I won't do
• It seems to run hotter than the 6700K

 

[EarthDog]

7700K can work in 8.1...

So, its only temps...

 

[P4-630]

7700K can work in 8.1...

Disable windows updates?
And I would need to update the mb BIOS first.

 

[Enterprise24]

OC your i5-6500 and call it a day. If you have any question you can ask me. That CPU is a good match with your 980 or even 1080 if OC. Save money for GPU upgrade.

Later when Coffeelake come out just grab a cheap 7700K.

 

[zbam]

OC your i5-6500 and call it a day. If you have any question you can ask me. That CPU is a good match with your 980 or even 1080 if OC. Save money for GPU upgrade.

Later when Coffeelake come out just grab a cheap 7700K.

Well then I still will need a decent cooler, and I do not want air cooler. AIO or any other water cooling system does not fit in my case(Zalman Z1 Neo) so new case+water cooling system I need to purchase. When I think that I will already buy those, might as well buy a new rig And to be honest I probably will not upgrade my graphics card at least 1 more year.
Have you ever overclocked 6500 ? How much overclock potential it has ?

 

[Fizban]

7700K can work in 8.1...

So, its only temps...

Kaby Lake and Ryzen processors are both locked out of updates on any version of Windows older than Win 10.

Though frankly I am confused why anyone would prefer win 8.1 to Win 10.

 

[Estaric]

Okay so I'm no where near and pro at this but I use to stream quite a bit and let me give my honest opinion. For the processor definitely should pick up the R5 1600(x) get a trust worthy motherboard my friend built a ryzen system and it took 2 weeks after getting parts to get the dang thing to work cuz the mobo was a dud and that was last thing replaced. And if you were like me you'll want the best viewing experience your viewers can have. That 980 ain't gonna cut it. Sure the 980 is a lovely card BUT if your streaming youl either want to get a second or upgrade to a 1070 which I'd personally due cuz dual gpu support is awful.

 

[zbam]

Okay so I'm no where near and pro at this but I use to stream quite a bit and let me give my honest opinion. For the processor definitely should pick up the R5 1600(x) get a trust worthy motherboard my friend built a ryzen system and it took 2 weeks after getting parts to get the dang thing to work cuz the mobo was a dud and that was last thing replaced. And if you were like me you'll want the best viewing experience your viewers can have. That 980 ain't gonna cut it. Sure the 980 is a lovely card BUT if your streaming youl either want to get a second or upgrade to a 1070 which I'd personally due cuz dual gpu support is awful.

To be honest I am sick of picking mid range CPU from the consumer grade series of the brands I want something stronger, i7, r7..
I ofcourse want the best viewing experience for my viewers in twitch but 980 always cut it for me, I mean at 1080p there is no game(among the games I play) I could not play with everything maxed while streaming with QuickSync.
Here are my games as far as I remember, : Rainbow Six Siege, CS:GO, Dota2, Battlefield4, Euro Truck Simulator 2, GTA V, Cities:Skylines, Left 4 Dead 2, Arma III, DayZ:Standalone, H1Z1, Miscreated, Minecraft , Assassin's Creed serie.

 

[Fizban]

I've known plenty of people that stream as their career and have much weaker videocards. You only need a crazy powerful GPU if you plan to stream at 1080P@60 fps, which almost no one does. Most streams are still 720p, heck, most are 720p ay 30 fps even.

 

[zbam]

I've known plenty of people that stream as their career and have much weaker videocards. You only need a crazy powerful GPU if you plan to stream at 1080P@60 fps, which almost no one does. Most streams are still 720p, heck, most are 720p ay 30 fps even.

Exactly

 

[Konceptz]

Zbam, have you made a decision? After re-reading everything, sounds like an R7 1700 would fit you nicely.

 

[Vya Domus]

GPU encoding is cheap in terms of performance.

 

[Enterprise24]

Well then I still will need a decent cooler, and I do not want air cooler. AIO or any other water cooling system does not fit in my case(Zalman Z1 Neo) so new case+water cooling system I need to purchase. When I think that I will already buy those, might as well buy a new rig And to be honest I probably will not upgrade my graphics card at least 1 more year.
Have you ever overclocked 6500 ? How much overclock potential it has ?

My 6500 stock clock is 3.2Ghz overclock to 5Ghz. That is 56.25% potential.
Skylake non K OC is very popular in my country. I see many peoples hitting at least 4.4Ghz on their 6500 with decent air cooling like 212 evo and a cheap motherboard like ASRock Z170 Pro 4. So that is still 37.5% potential.

To be honest you should give it a try even with stock cooling. I see many hitting 4.0-4.1Ghz with stock cooling. Performance should be improve a lot compared to 3.2Ghz stock.

 

[Vario]

If you do buy an AMD machine please let us know if it makes your streaming experience better than the i5.