Intel Core "Coffee Lake" Lineup Specs Confirmed in Leaked Distributor Event

[eddman]

Since when is 6 a third of 8? More like 3/4, so the difference is 25% more...but yeah, I stand corrected on that, it has been a quarter more on desktop chips, between them, how ever, that doesn't hold here, 8MB on the i3 to 9MB on the i5 and to 12MB on the i7, though.

Henceforth, it's silly.

It's basic math. I wrote "more", meaning an increase from the base value.

6 + 33.3% = 7.998 ~ 8
9 + 33.3% = 11.997 ~ 12

The reason that i3 is now closer to i5 is because of the doubled cores, which means the cache was also doubled, but the per core ratio is still the same:

Dual i3: 4 MB -> 2 MB to core ratio
Quad i3: 8 MB -> 2 MB
Quad i5: 6 MB -> 1.5 MB
Hexa i5: 9 MB -> 1.5 MB

Basically i3 has always had a per core cache advantage (except for the lowest end i3) over i5.

Still, you're right that it's silly. I agree that i5s should have as much cache as i7s.

 

[LFaWolf]

I think what is missing is a Quad core with 8 threads, but I will take a low power mobile Quad core i5 for a work laptop.

 

[mharbinger]

I know everyone's jazzed for the i7's, but as an employee at a public school district, I'm excited to finally be able to put quad-core processors in front of my users. (Core i3 8xxx and Ryzen 3 both being quads.) We've been rocking dual-cores for probably 10 years.

Competition is a beautiful thing.

 

[Frick]

Just give the Pentiums HT, mmkay?

 

[oxezz]

Yeah sure..

Spoiler

At least now they giving moar cores to consumers.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Still don't understand why Intel have to FUCK EVERYTHING UP by 6C-i5 and 12T-i7.
Why they can't just stick to their current lineup and naming scheme and release new i6-6C and i8-12T CPU.
FailFish ... just incompetent people problems ... FailFish

Wtf is Failfish?

 

[Keullo-e]

Still don't understand why Intel have to FUCK EVERYTHING UP by 6C-i5 and 12T-i7.
Why they can't just stick to their current lineup and naming scheme and release new i6-6C and i8-12T CPU.
FailFish ... just incompetent people problems ... FailFish

Umm... they've had dual core mobile i5's and i7's for ages? That's way more fucked up than bringing more cores to the familiar product lineups.

 

[B-Real]

I think what is missing is a Quad core with 8 threads, but I will take a low power mobile Quad core i5 for a work laptop.

Why not considering Ryzen-based (APU) notebooks?

 

[LFaWolf]

Why not considering Ryzen-based (APU) notebooks?

Are they available? I don't see anything on Newegg. Performance metrics?

 

[bubbly1724]

7700K -> 8700K 11%/51%
11% looks like single core improvements (bump up clocks) while 51% looks like multicore. It would technically be 50% multicore if they kept the same clocks on the same arch, so it looks like another release without any improvements in actual IPC.

 

[jabbadap]

Just give the Pentiums HT, mmkay?

That's it's much likely given(2c/4t though). All kaby lake dekstop pentiums had HT and I don't think that will change with Coffee lake. Although by looking those roadmaps coffee lake pentiums are most likely coming later at Q1/18. What i would like to see, would be cheap OC capable 2c/4t pentium like g3258 was. I.e. I would not mind pentium processor with i3-7350k config under $100.

 

[phanbuey]

7700K -> 8700K 11%/51%
11% looks like single core improvements (bump up clocks) while 51% looks like multicore. It would technically be 50% multicore if they kept the same clocks on the same arch, so it looks like another release without any improvements in actual IPC.

Yeah that 1% is probably from the faster memory support.

 

[LogitechFan]

the moment you realize that a new 6c/12t can wipe the floor with your potato 3.8 1700x...
Jeez, all these second hand 1700 on ebay after this, 1700s everywhere...

 

[Durvelle27]

the moment you realize that a new 6c/12t can wipe the floor with your potato 3.8 1700x...
Jeez, all these second hand 1700 on ebay after this, 1700s everywhere...

Potato

I smell misinformed coming from you

 

[LogitechFan]

Potato

I smell misinformed coming from you

you're smelling the wrong end...

 

[etayorius]

So this new LGA1151 support the old LGA1151? or will i need a new mobo to upgrade to New CPUs?

 

[evernessince]

Just always had an itch for another Intel based platform. I haven't made a firm decision yet, but whichever way I go its going to be my last build for quite sometime.

Just a heads up, Ryzen has better performance per watt than Skylake and very likely this upcoming architecture as well (it's really still skylake).

 

[phanbuey]

So this new LGA1151 support the old LGA1151? or will i need a new mobo to upgrade to New CPUs?

new mobos looks like... there is a very slight chance they launch on monday with needed updates to z270 boards to support them, but unlikely.

most likely they will just be announced with a Q4 launch on z370.

the moment you realize that a new 6c/12t can wipe the floor with your potato 3.8 1700x...
Jeez, all these second hand 1700 on ebay after this, 1700s everywhere...

I mean, 1700 is a $300 octacore you can slap onto a $100 B350 - it is what it is... that is a cheap potato for the multi-core performance it puts out. 8700k will probably match/be ever so slightly slower it in multi thread and smash it in single thread.

Not gonna be out for a few more months though.

 

[Totally]

I normally try and not make comments like these but ooooooh the left cheek of those 7700k fanboys must sting with that slap to the face courtesy of Intel, after talking so much about how core count above 4 doesn't/isn't going matter. Now all that left is for those who swear single core performance in 10yo software is what matters even though the performance of today's cpus eclipse those of 10 years ago whenever the software was released

 

[phanbuey]

I normally try and not make comments like these but ooooooh the left cheek of those 7700k fanboys must sting with that slap to the face courtesy of Intel, after talking so much about how core count above 4 doesn't/isn't going matter. Now all that left is for those who swear single core performance in 10yo software is what matters even though the performance of today's cpus eclipse those of 10 years ago whenever the software was released

Yeah especially the guys that bought in super recently. Couple threads on this forum where the guy bought a 7700k a few days ago.

I got sympathy pains.

 

[Dante Uchiha]

 

[EarthDog]

I normally try and not make comments like these but ooooooh the left cheek of those 7700k fanboys must sting with that slap to the face courtesy of Intel, after talking so much about how core count above 4 doesn't/isn't going matter. Now all that left is for those who swear single core performance in 10yo software is what matters even though the performance of today's cpus eclipse those of 10 years ago whenever the software was released

meh... there is always something new on the horizon..

A 4c8t processor will be fine for years.

Your words feel like it instantly becomes obsolete. Software still has to catch up...and though we can smell it. Clearly it isnt already here.

 

[TheHunter]

Some 3Dmark 11 scores with that i7 8700k. And just for comparison sake for some same score of i7 7700k(well obviously OC gtx1080 on that, I'm not bothering enough to trying find reference scores)... But all in all physics cores are up to 20-23.6%.

That's one poor 7700K @ 4.5GHz then, I get ~ 12300-12600points by cpu score @ 4.7GHz. Found one old score..

Even 8700K doesnt look anything special. I'll just keep this 4770K until IceLake/TigerLake or Zen2.



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[Prima.Vera]

That's one poor 7700K @ 4.5GHz then, I get ~ 12300-12600points by cpu score @ 4.7GHz. Found one old score..

Even 8700K doesnt look anything special. I'll just keep this 4770K until IceLake/TigerLake or Zen2.

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Ay, already in my 5th year with the 3770K, and still see no point to upgrade, even if the itch for DDR4 and M.2 SSD is very high...
But then again, now the SSDs and DRAM prices are at a record high, so "no way Jose". Maybe in 1-2 years...
Too huge investment right now, CPU+Mobo+RAM

 

[Estaric]

If developers start optimizing for more cores I honestly would like to believe we can make great strides in how games can perform.