If you really want CPU encoding for streaming , R7 1700 is without doubt the best choice without breaking the bank.
That 6700K might have double the threads but the execution units are the same. It will perform better , but not a whole lot better.
My options : use i5 6500 overclock the sh.t out of it and go with NVME encoder streaming.
get an i7 6700k/7700k and still go with NVME.
get the ryzen build and rock with x264 encoding
1700X should overclock slightly better. I wouldn't push my luck too much with the silicon lottery, because a few bucks more for a better chip wouldn't hurt. Some people have a lot of luck, but most of us don't. Besides, it has higher stock frequencies which is a very good thing, especially for the people who don't plan to "permanently" overclock the chip immediately after the purchase. Performance wise, stock 1700X will be about 5% faster than stock 1700. That's more or less the same difference between the i7 4790K and i7 6700K - not much, but still...
Mostly due to their price (performance-per-price ratio) and the ability to sell them later. In reality, you will not see any real difference considering cooling performance between 240 mm and 280 mm AIO cooler. Most PC cases on the market aren't designed for 280 mm coolers and only a minority of people will choose 280 mm instead of 240 mm AIO water cooler. That will directly affect their selling price later (as used product).
Pretty much any X370 mobo from the reputable manufacturer will be more than enough for the advanced user and it will certainly allow some nice overclock. Pretty much every reputable manufacturer will have BIOS upgrades for their upper-class motherboards like the X370-series, Z270-series, X299-series etc. to make them more stable and futureproof.
Well I can return the CPU couple of times without any reason and get a replacement
and if you are talking about selling the AIO in future, I really have no plan towards selling my AIO in future, just wanted to get best one when I am buying one.
Thank you for your comment
This is a trainwreck thread.
To those who say a 4c/8t isn't enough for streaming and whatnot the OP has stated he wants to do, I'd like to see proof to justify the cost for a whole new build.
Get an i7, get a matching 8GB stick, and maybe a better cooler depending on your board and chip choice.
Then get a job and save up for a better machine down the road.
With this attitude please do not post any other message in this thread. I simply am willing to read and understand everyone's point of view, naturally everyone has different opinion and I am not just accepting what everyone says here, making my own research as well.
I have a job and you would know if you would have read the first post.
That is simply silicon lottery. Ambient temp ~30C Idle temp around 30-40. Load temp around 70 after delid and some tweak to VCCPLL voltage. (reduce from auto 1.3V to manual 1.1V).
However most people will get 4.4-4.6Ghz. Performance gain is still a lot if not limit by GPU.
Here are my chart comparing stock vs OC and memory scaling. In this chart I chose 4.8Ghz (150x32) because it is easier to compare memory scaling to normal "K" CPU.
All game test at 2560x1440 with GTX 980 Ti @ 1539 core / 1940 mem and Win 10 64bit.
Cities Skylines 81 tiles mod with 600K population (David City) = Max Setting
Civ 6 = Max setting including 8xMSAA
Project Cars = Max setting with SMAA
GTA V = Max setting including advanced graphics except high grass and no MSAA. Redux mod is activated.
Totalwar Attila custom battle since build in benchmark does not reflect real world performance = Max setting with MLAA
I have no words.
the performance jump you got is incredible. I will definitely get into this i5 6500 overclocking before I move to Ryzen, I have already ordered the case and the cooler so first step is to overclock i5 6500 and then decide whether to get i7 for the board or move to ryzen
Thank you for the whole information you provided
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