X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[jaggerwild]

Can you use any power saving while clocked to 5Ghz? My X79 Deluxe has built in Haswell options, makes it so much easier to reach 5Ghz then my RIVE board. I'm over joyed i got this board to work my issue now is my main rig has riggid tubing, and swapping everything isn't easy

 

[Aquinus]

My X79 Deluxe has built in Haswell options

X79 used Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, not Haswell. Haswell uses skt2011-3 and X99 but, the 125Mhz strap basically throws all power-saving options out the window so, not for my 3820.

 

[jaggerwild]

X79 used Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, not Haswell. Haswell uses skt2011-3 and X99 but, the 125Mhz strap basically throws all power-saving options out the window so, not for my 3820.

Check the release date, not your P9X79. Check my X79 DELUXE release date, I said "HAS HASWELL OPTIONS" I meant to say Feature's(not a haswell board). My board was released at the same time as HASWELL..........

 

[Aquinus]

I said "HAS HASWELL OPTIONS"

Maybe you should clarify what "Haswell options" on a X79 board means.

 

[jaggerwild]

Maybe you should clarify what "Haswell options" on a X79 board means.

Why are you the internet police? If you cant read what or how I said it, im sorry. AGAIN "HAS HASWELL FEATURES" I did not say it was a haswell board. Link to a review
https://www.bjorn3d.com/2014/02/asus-x79-deluxe-motherboard-review-ground-redesign-ivy-e/

 

[warup89]

With my 3820, I've been able to get as low as 1.25v at stock (1 core at 3.8, 1 at 3.7, 2 at 3.6,) and I can sometimes get away with ~1.28 at 4.0 but 1.3 is usually a good bet. At 4.2-4.3, I need about 1.35v. In order to hit 4.5 and higher, I need to use bclk straps but, I almost always require at least 1.45v for anything north of 4.5ghz and 1.5v to be able to boot at 5Ghz which is incredibly unstable and not even worth the effort. What I'll sometimes do is use a negative voltage offset but, use additional boost voltage to push more through the CPU when it clocks up. It lets the CPU use a little less when it clocks down but, what is a little tricky is testing the machine in a way that will ensure that non-full load situations are still stable if it's not using as much voltage at partial load.

Thanks for the interesting insight, it seems like these cpu's are quiet power hungry in the 4ghz + area. One thing I noticed too, if I let my motherboard adjust voltage automatically, that thing will go past 1.5v without hesitation so yeah...never doing that again.

 

[Aquinus]

Why are you the internet police? If you cant read what or how I said it, im sorry. AGAIN "HAS HASWELL FEATURES" I did not say it was a haswell board. Link to a review
https://www.bjorn3d.com/2014/02/asus-x79-deluxe-motherboard-review-ground-redesign-ivy-e/

No, I want to know what the hell you're talking about. Explain to me what "has Haswell features" means because the review doesn't even mention Haswell. What you're saying, at least to me, is confusing and I'm looking for clarity but, your only response is "HAS HASWELL FEATURES" without any explanation as to what you mean by that.

Thanks for the interesting insight, it seems like these cpu's are quiet power hungry in the 4ghz + area. One thing I noticed too, if I let my motherboard adjust voltage automatically, that thing will go past 1.5v without hesitation so yeah...never doing that again.

That's interesting. My 3820 hovers at about 1.3v when set to auto. Different motherboards are going to do different things I suppose but, 1.5v seems really high for auto.

 

[rtwjunkie]

10K posts you prolly investigating ESD, I understand. I told you what i meant, WTF cant you read? I'm not gonna hold yer hand sense you know it all prove it. You wanna sit here n split hairs have fun, OK I'll give you 1 then I'm done. Notice the black n gold

FWIW, I don't have a clue what you mean either. Probably no one does. So, what @Aquinus is asking is please explain what you mean by your X79 board having Haswell features.

From where I sit it appears you are just being rude to him on purpose...to what end, IDK.

 

[jaggerwild]

Yeah im rude, OK. I'm not here to validate myself, you want me to prove that i saw a site that stated the board has Haswell feature's I can't find it. I read it last X79 Deluxe I had which was like 9 months or longer ago.The Black n gold are HasWell feature's or i need to prove that?

http://techreport.com/review/25310/asus-x79-deluxe-motherboard-reviewed

On the other hand, I'm kind of bummed out. Although motherboard vendors have updated their X79 offerings since that platform debuted in 2011, it's been a while since the most recent round of revisions. We've been spoiled by the first crop of Haswell motherboards, which boast more mature firmware and software, extra connectivity, and snazzy new features. Older X79 boards look especially dated next to the latest 8-series designs.

Asus apparently agrees. The motherboard giant has released the X79-Deluxe to ensure that Ivy Bridge-E has access to the innovations packed into its latest boards. Naturally, we had to take a closer look.

Asus' UEFI has evolved steadily since it was introduced with the first Sandy Bridge motherboards. The iteration that debuted with Haswell is a nice incremental improvement, and its upgrades have been passed along to the X79-Deluxe. In fact, Asus' new firmware features have also trickled down to its older X79 boards. The latest firmware for the nearly two-year-old P9X79 Pro looks identical to the UEFI for the X79-Deluxe.

Fan Xpert 2 is part of the Dual Intelligent Processors 4 software that the X79-Deluxe shares with Asus' Haswell motherboards. This application also has a wealth of performance tuning options.

 

[Aquinus]

That sounds more like that they used an updated firmware for UEFI on it, not that it does things that are unique to Haswell. I think you kind of took that out of context. I will give you that it's more modern than other X79 boards in that respect but, it really doesn't have anything to do with Haswell but is being used more as a comparison to other recently (at the time,) released motherboards that used Haswell, like z87 boards after X79 had been a thing for several years already.

 

[Kursah]

There's no need for any individual to be rude to anyone else in this or any other thread on this forum! We're all here to help, learn and share information with each other AND back our information up with sources when questioned. Anyone that wants to push their luck is welcome to infractions and vacations.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

If I'm involved in any way whatsoever infractions are always very available to be had! ...even if I'm not in the conversation.

Being a long time user of this specific chipset makes me glad to see an active x79 thread. Anyways, I was wondering if I'm missing something here.


Im been able to have a (as of yet) stable OC of my 3930k at 4.5Ghz with 1.41v, but If I raise to 4.6 Its seems to eat way more voltage since the chip is not even stable with 1.45v. I have x4 Ram sticks and my cpu is under water averaging at 45C idle to 77C load. Are there any other settings I should look into?

That's about right...unless you get really lucky the 3x series will get you to about 4.5 ghz and even that is with very good cooling and about 1.45 volts zapping through it. I just checked my 3930k and it's at 4.5 ghz with 1.45 volts on the nose, I had an ES 3960x earlier in thread that did better voltage but didn't support newer and more mature bioses so just dumped it for the retail version.

 

[Peter Lindgren]

I bought a 2680v2 on Ebay. It did not work on my Gigabyte X79-UD3 Rev 1.0, it would not post. But I have an ASUS P9X79 where it worked just fine. The 2680v2 runs very cold, after 1h of Intel Burn Test it reaches 42c with my Kraken X51.

With BCLK at 107MHz I can run all cores at 3.3Ghz with 2 cores at 3.9Ghz and 2 cores at 3.5Ghz. Any higher BCLK causes BSOD.

CPUZ score with my 4930k at 4,5GHz

CPUZ score with 2680v2

Max turbo on a core.

I would be very happy if anyone has any ideas how to reach higher BCLK

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I bought a 2680v2 on Ebay. It did not work on my Gigabyte X79-UD3 Rev 1.0, it would not post. But I have an ASUS P9X79 where it worked just fine. The 2680v2 runs very cold, after 1h of Intel Burn Test it reaches 42c with my Kraken X51.

With BCLK at 107MHz I can run all cores at 3.3Ghz with 2 cores at 3.9Ghz and 2 cores at 3.5Ghz. Any higher BCLK causes BSOD.

CPUZ score with my 4930k at 4,5GHz

CPUZ score with 2680v2

Max turbo on a core.

I would be very happy if anyone has any ideas how to reach higher BCLK

are you the same Peter Lindgren that used to play in Opeth? You have the same name and come from the same place (stockholm, Sweden) -- Ignore this, I havent seen you around in so long i think youre a new member again.

as for your question... I dont think theres a good answer. the X79 platform was known to have very very limited BLCK overclocking

 

[Ferrum Master]

Don't fry your other things. Pretty much anything past 105 was unstable and risky.

And yeah... that Opeth remark is good... it itches to do some classic joke.

And about Gigabyte X79-UD3, you should try UBU and add microcodes for ES CPU's.

 

[Aquinus]

With BCLK at 107MHz I can run all cores at 3.3Ghz with 2 cores at 3.9Ghz and 2 cores at 3.5Ghz. Any higher BCLK causes BSOD.

I know that with my P9X79 Deluxe that it lets me control which cores boost and it lets me have them all boost, I'm assuming that option becomes inactive or ineffective with the Xeon in the board?

 

[Ferrum Master]

I know that with my P9X79 Deluxe that it lets me control which cores boost and it lets me have them all boost, I'm assuming that option becomes inactive or ineffective with the Xeon in the board?

Yes. At least with my Xeon and P9X79PRO. Pretty much you have to live stock albeit under 4GHz it renders the platform EOL.

 

[Peter Lindgren]

As it turned out this little puppy just needed some more vcore

When I gave it 1.150v it would go as high as 113mhz BLCK. Anything over that gives me a black screen. I suppose that is due to the graphics card does not like the overclock of the PCIe port?

Boost freq is now above 4Ghz

Max temp is still below 50c

Almost the same performance as a Ryzen 1800X

Cinebench score

TimeSpy score with R9 Nano

Upgrading from a 4930k to a 2680v2 was worth it! About 25% more multi core performance with lower power consumption and lower temps.

 

[Aquinus]

When I gave it 1.150v it would go as high as 113mhz BLCK. Anything over that gives me a black screen. I suppose that is due to the graphics card does not like the overclock of the PCIe port?

DMI runs at the base clock frequency at 100Mhz strap as well but, usually it's the PCI-E devices that get unhappy with the change. I would suggest some I/O benchmarks if you have a SSD installed. That would tell you real fast if the chipset is going to have issues with the higher bclk. Just keep in mind that the things that can become unstable from higher bclk clocks are things you don't want to go wrong, like writes to disk because you could end up writing corrupted data and that will only result in a mess.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Wow cool stuff! Yes good time and will continue to get better to get these x79 behemeths they still have a lot of performance to offer but due to newer offerings and mobos intel and now AMD alike price has really crashed over last few months.....finally! Nice chip and oc by the way.

 

[Kanan]

Being a long time user of this specific chipset makes me glad to see an active x79 thread. Anyways, I was wondering if I'm missing something here.


Im been able to have a (as of yet) stable OC of my 3930k at 4.5Ghz with 1.41v, but If I raise to 4.6 Its seems to eat way more voltage since the chip is not even stable with 1.45v. I have x4 Ram sticks and my cpu is under water averaging at 45C idle to 77C load. Are there any other settings I should look into?

You need to find a setting called "Load Line Calibration" or similar in meaning and set it to the highest level ("Extreme" or so). That could help. Your mainboard is a very decent one afaik, it's probably the CPU not being good for more than 4500 without very high voltage.

Almost the same performance as a Ryzen 1800X

And probably better in games as well.

Some updates for you guys:

I changed my GPU to a 980 Ti (had a 780 Ti before) and the CPU and system is still going strong. Here are some benchmarks:

3960X at 4.8 GHz for benchmarking, GPU see benchmark links for more info but mostly around 1450-1490 MHz core and 1975 to 2050 MHz Ram:

Spy:

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/2242375

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/410161/spy/2242375

FS:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13394728

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13394728/fs/9331757

11:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12330954

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11414355/3dm11/12330954

New SP Extreme:

Old:

I'm still gonna do some more SP and finally some Vantage after fixing the installation.

 

[Peter Lindgren]

Wow cool stuff! Yes good time and will continue to get better to get these x79 behemeths they still have a lot of performance to offer but due to newer offerings and mobos intel and now AMD alike price has really crashed over last few months.....finally! Nice chip and oc by the way.

Thanks!

The best Xeons you can get is either 2690v2 or 2697v2

2690v2 should be able to have all 10 cores in 3.7Ghz
2697v2 should be able to have all 12 cores in 3.4Ghz

The image below shows how my 2680v2 can boost freq depending on load on cores. The 2690v2 should have 10c: 33x

 

[MrTOOSHORT]

1680 v2 and TX Pascal benches:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22562642

 

[dalekdukesboy]

You need to find a setting called "Load Line Calibration" or similar in meaning and set it to the highest level ("Extreme" or so). That could help. Your mainboard is a very decent one afaik, it's probably the CPU not being good for more than 4500 without very high voltage.

And probably better in games as well.

Some updates for you guys:

I changed my GPU to a 980 Ti (had a 780 Ti before) and the CPU and system is still going strong. Here are some benchmarks:

3960X at 4.8 GHz for benchmarking, GPU see benchmark links for more info but mostly around 1450-1490 MHz core and 1975 to 2050 MHz Ram:

Spy:

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/2242375

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/410161/spy/2242375

FS:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13394728

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13394728/fs/9331757

11:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12330954

New vs old:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11414355/3dm11/12330954

New SP Extreme:

Old:

I'm still gonna do some more SP and finally some Vantage after fixing the installation.

Ooooooooooooooooooh very nice! You and I know have a very similar system right down to processor/gpu/mobo....That's great! Glad you got a decent card upgrade plus now I may be motivated to play with mine again been so busy with "real life" I have basically only used my pc to go on Twitter/email etc and only come on here every so often including today. Nice post with comparison benchies! I'll have to do some soon.

1680 v2 and TX Pascal benches:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22562642

Now this is the system I'd prefer to have but nice to see this as well for comparison's sake if I decide to upgrade to this processor and better gpu down the line, very nice setup and benchies MrTooshort!

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Well....

I think my board is definitely one foot in the grave and there is no way to bring her back unless I get her recapped...

I noticed yesterday that the USB 3 ports on the back stopped working again. At first i thought it was just the external hard drive that I had hooked up that was borked and tested a load of other devices... Not surprisingly, none of them worked either. This is the same problem a few months back and replaced the PSU.

This has to be the 3rd or 4th time its happened and its just too much of a coincidence. Last time the PSU got replaced, but this time its definitely the not the PSU. I guess i'll have to start saving the pennies for a new machine.