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Kingston KCP424SS8/4 timings?

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This would be a memory upgrade for my laptop.

My laptop currently runs on 1x2GB and 1x4GB. (dual channel)

The 4GB module installed is:
Samsung DDR4-2400 M471A5244BB0-CRC
Timings are 15-15-15-35 CR 1T

I'd like to know the timings of this Kingston KCP424SS8/4 module.

Edit:
Ok it seems this kingston is CL17 according to this site:
https://www.beat-it.nl/kingston-kcp424ss8-4 :(:(

Edit 2:
Found some Kingston Hyper X with
  • CL14 (14-14-14)
https://azerty.nl/product/kingston/901928/hyperx-impact-ddr4-4-gb

I assume it will automatically run at 15-15-15-35 like my Samsung module?
 
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Why couldn't you have asked this yesterday, when I had a set of those in my hands... :laugh:
Hang on.

EDIT: Here ya go, it's a "/8" module, but timings are usually the same.
Code:
DIMM #                2
    SMBus address        0x52
    Memory type        DDR4
    Module format        SO-DIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)    Kingston (7F98000000000000000000)
    Size            8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth        DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz)
    Part number        9905624-019.A00G
    Serial number        1A361521
    Manufacturing date    Week 43/Year 17
    Nominal Voltage        1.20 Volts
    EPP            no
    XMP            no
    AMP            no
JEDEC timings table        CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1        10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2        11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3        12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4        13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5        14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6        15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7        16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8        17.0-17-17-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
    JEDEC #9        18.0-17-17-39-55 @ 1200 MHz

This enough? Could only do a remote cpu-z dump for now, I can try to thyphoon it later, if you need.
Seems like it ain't a match, CL17 vs. yours CL15 @2400
 
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Why couldn't you have asked this yesterday, when I had a set of those in my hands... :laugh:
Hang on.

EDIT: Here ya go, it's a "/8" module, but timings are usually the same.
Code:
DIMM #                2
    SMBus address        0x52
    Memory type        DDR4
    Module format        SO-DIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)    Kingston (7F98000000000000000000)
    Size            8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth        DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz)
    Part number        9905624-019.A00G
    Serial number        1A361521
    Manufacturing date    Week 43/Year 17
    Nominal Voltage        1.20 Volts
    EPP            no
    XMP            no
    AMP            no
JEDEC timings table        CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1        10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2        11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3        12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4        13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5        14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6        15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7        16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8        17.0-17-17-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
    JEDEC #9        18.0-17-17-39-55 @ 1200 MHz

This enough? Could only do a remote cpu-z dump for now, I can try to thyphoon it later, if you need.
Seems like it ain't a match, CL17 vs. yours CL15 @2400

Thanks for the info!
These are the specs of my current 4GB stick:
Capture3.PNG


I probably need this one then:

Kingston Hyper: CL14 (14-14-14) (I have no idea about the next number though , it's 35 on my current and 1T)
https://azerty.nl/product/kingston/901928/hyperx-impact-ddr4-4-gb

Edit:
Found this in yours:
JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz , that seems ok?
 
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Ah, so your 4GB module is running CL15, but at 2133MHz. @2400, it also has CL17 timings.
I'd say you don't need the HyperX RAM, your laptop will clock down to 2133MHz and use the corresponding timings...unless the 2133Mhz speed is being set for compatibility with your current 2GB module. Still, you won't see the benefits of the HyperX, unless you replace both DIMMs.
RAS is usually the sum (or above) of the previous 3 timings, CL, RCD and RP. ;)
1T is the command rate :)
 
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Ah, so your 4GB module is running CL15, but at 2133MHz. @2400, it also has CL17 timings.
I'd say you don't need the HyperX RAM, your laptop will clock down to 2133MHz and use the corresponding timings...unless the 2133Mhz speed is being set for compatibility with your current 2GB module. Still, you won't see the benefits of the HyperX, unless you replace both DIMMs.
RAS is usually the sum (or above) of the previous 3 timings, CL, RCD and RP. ;)

Thanks.

Hmmm...
Whats the difference between these:
https://azerty.nl/product/kingston/2393924/valueram-ddr4-4-gb

Besides this one is about 8 EURO cheaper:
https://azerty.nl/product/kingston/2604372/ddr4-4-gb

@_JP_ it's probably the "value" ram you had?
https://azerty.nl/product/kingston/2393924/valueram-ddr4-4-gb
 
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Down to the bone, none.
First one is Kingston's "OEM-Equivalent" line. Identified with "KCP" in the start of the P/N, should mean "Kingston Certified Parts" or something like that.
Second one is your regular Kingston DIMM. Consumer channel. "KVR" at the start -> "Kingston Value RAM"

EDIT:
Nah, that SPD dump is from a KCP module. The only difference from a KVR would the P/N, tough.
 
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