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i would of bought another gpu.... :)
 
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that looks like a nice build. nothing to Scoff @ certainly. a very capable machine.
 
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IMO Intel's new cpu's are too overpriced and RAM is WAYYY overpriced right now. RAM should be about half its actual price right now. I paid $30 less for my 4790K than what Intel wants for their current unlocked i5's. USD didn't inflate that much...

If you live fairly close to a Microcenter they always have the best deals on CPU/MOBO combos.
 
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IMO Intel's new cpu's are too overpriced and RAM is WAYYY overpriced right now. RAM should be about half its actual price right now. I paid $30 less for my 4790K than what Intel wants for their current unlocked i5's. USD didn't inflate that much...

If you live fairly close to a Microcenter they always have the best deals on CPU/MOBO combos.

I was looking at the new six core 8600k i5. but $300 is a tad steep for an i5, maybe they have pushed it up towards the i7 level of performance, so its price is indicative. i dunno.
if i DO order an 8600k, im going to have to take a ride to Cambridge, and get it for $230.
but the prices have increased for sure, the 2500k cost me under $200 @ launch.
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Personally, I would push what you have now to 4.6Ghz and ride out a few more months till the new ryzen CPUs are out. Intel might drop prices around then so you have more choices in terms of budget.

Either way I dont think any price paid would make that 4790k worth it. Youre just paying for the same CPU as you currently have now but with the inclusion of Hyper Threading which doesnt do a whole lot for gamers in general. Dont waste your money. Keep saving, OC and be patient.
 
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id not buy a 4790k to replace a 4670k personally. the HT'ing isnt a true 4 physical core performance boost, its a small perf boost. I saw very little if any gain in ANY tasks when i went from 4690k to 4790. Its just not there. the 4790 is worth "it" as long as "it" is a justifiable upgrade. in this case, IMO, it is not.
 

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IMO Intel's new cpu's are too overpriced and RAM is WAYYY overpriced right now. RAM should be about half its actual price right now. I paid $30 less for my 4790K than what Intel wants for their current unlocked i5's. USD didn't inflate that much...

If you live fairly close to a Microcenter they always have the best deals on CPU/MOBO combos.

There is no way you bought a 4790K new anytime near its launch for $250. Hell, I bought mine when Microcenter made a pricing error and priced the 4790K at the price of the 4690K in one of their ads and they honored the ad, and the 4790K was still $280.

I was looking at the new six core 8600k i5. but $300 is a tad steep for an i5, maybe they have pushed it up towards the i7 level of performance, so its price is indicative. i dunno.
if i DO order an 8600k, im going to have to take a ride to Cambridge, and get it for $230.
but the prices have increased for sure, the 2500k cost me under $200 @ launch.

With 6 cores, the i5 pretty much beats the 4c/8t i7s of the last generation in anything multi-threaded. It's a little behind in single threaded apps due to the lower clock speed compared to the 7700K, but that is easily fixed with an overclock, and once both are overclocked the 7700k pretty much loses in everything.

So, yeah, the performance fits the price tag.
 
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There is no way you bought a 4790K new anytime near its launch for $250. Hell, I bought mine when Microcenter made a pricing error and priced the 4790K at the price of the 4690K in one of their ads and they honored the ad, and the 4790K was still $280.

Maybe he speaking about the 8600k i5? The 6 core one? I dunno. They sell for $300'ish
 

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Maybe he speaking about the 8600k i5? The 6 core one? I dunno. They sell for $300'ish

That's what I'm saying. The i5 8600K sells for $280, and has since launch basically, and MSRP is actually $260, but supply has been short so prices have been a little inflated. So $30 cheaper than that would be $250. Like I said, there is no way he got a new 4790K for $30 cheaper than a current unlocked i5 8600K unless there was some kind of price error. That would put the price at $250. I bought my 4790K for $280, and that was a pricing error. So, the only way he got one at $250 was by a pricing error(and Microcenter was making a shit-ton of them with the 4790k for some reason). But it really isn't fair to compare the pricing error to prices of the processors today.

The MSRP price for the 4790K at launch was $340 and the MSRP on the 4690K was $240. Now the i7 is $380 and the i5 is $260. So Intel hasn't really jacked the prices up. Yes, during the initial launch the prices have been inflated, but not by Intel's direct doing. The supply has been low, so the retailers have been raising the prices because they can. The street price on a 8700K is over $400 right now, but not because of Intel raising the price, that's just a result of high mark-ups by the retailers. And the 8600K street price is only $280, which really isn't that bad for a 6-core processor that's more powerful than the 7700K.
 
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4790K is probably still expensive. You should get a cheap Xeon E3-12xx v3 off eBay instead.
 
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That's what I'm saying. The i5 8600K sells for $280, and has since launch basically, and MSRP is actually $260, but supply has been short so prices have been a little inflated. So $30 cheaper than that would be $250. Like I said, there is no way he got a new 4790K for $30 cheaper than a current unlocked i5 8600K unless there was some kind of price error. That would put the price at $250. I bought my 4790K for $280, and that was a pricing error. So, the only way he got one at $250 was by a pricing error(and Microcenter was making a shit-ton of them with the 4790k for some reason). But it really isn't fair to compare the pricing error to prices of the processors today.

The MSRP price for the 4790K at launch was $340 and the MSRP on the 4690K was $240. Now the i7 is $380 and the i5 is $260. So Intel hasn't really jacked the prices up. Yes, during the initial launch the prices have been inflated, but not by Intel's direct doing. The supply has been low, so the retailers have been raising the prices because they can. The street price on a 8700K is over $400 right now, but not because of Intel raising the price, that's just a result of high mark-ups by the retailers. And the 8600K street price is only $280, which really isn't that bad for a 6-core processor that's more powerful than the 7700K.

I don't know I can't say for sure,all I could find is those 8600K selling for $290 ,but you may very well be right, it could be due to demand. I never looked into them before this week.

I don't see in his post anywhere that he mentioned purchasing the 4790 "new", maybe he was making a comment on the fact that he simply bought an i7 4790 for less than what Intel wants for theiri5 (used or otherwise ).
It's anyone's guess

But I guess it wouldn't make much sense to comment on what someone paid for a used 4790 because that's moot, atleast in this matter. I paid $100 for my 4790 almost a year ago but that doesn't really reflect on what new processors are selling for.I just chalk it up to the fact that sometimes people's point doesn't come across very well in text form
 
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Buy a used 4790K cheap on flee bay, call it a day like this thread.
 
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For games you won’t notice much difference, and if you really need more CPU power you are better off with a six/eight core.
Soo either keep your current system, or sell it. With what you get, and the $200 planed for the 4790k, you can build a nice KBL/R7 system.
 

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Please take the time to post something of quality, or don't bother with posts like this. If anyone cannot provide any supportive arguments or content for a simple statement, it is better left unsaid.

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I am still enjoying my 4790K, it is a beast of a CPU for sure and always has been, but I also knew I would use my system and its threads between gaming, virtualization, processing, work, etc.

Really for anyone wanting to go with an older CPU like this now depends on the usage, budget, and needs. If you need more threads, have $200 and a currently good & stable Z87/Z97 platform with the DDR3 you're content with, then it makes sense IMHO. There is the inherent age risk, but honestly with how many folks are still running SB and IB, it seems this isn't quite as scary as it could be.

If you don't really need it or won't really use it, save your money for future upgrades or other purposes. I can find all sorts of uses for more threads on old, already paid for platforms, others might be more limited to simpler uses and lesser needs just wanting more to have it. Again, that's where it depends on the user's needs.

The OP's needs here from page 1 which was started 8 months ago, I'd say only if he's playing games that needs more threads, it is impacting his performance, and he doesn't want to invest in a newer platform yet but has enough to get a cheap, used 4790K, that'd be a good way to go. What looks like a bad decision for one person, might actually be a good one for someone else.

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As i told OP in the 2nd post, he would be better off using that money towards a new (whole system ) upgrade in the future. adding a 4790 isnt going to bring any huge jumps (unless he is rendering or converting, or unzipping for hours/day, which if it was that type of situation, id guess he'd have mentioned it in the OP). I know on paper there are increases in perf in games, and in other applications, but in the real world, as a person who made almost this EXACT same "upgrade"(4690 -4790) the increase just isnt there. now im not slamming the 4790, (i currently own one) , im just saying , if i were asked the same question OP is asking of the community, but instead by a loved one, or family member, id tell them what i have told OP, which is No, not if gaming is your primary (cpu intensive) task. Only if your rendering, unzipping, compressing, converting a decent chunk during a given day (or regularly) enough to justify the money spent its just not there. I dont need charts, or sheets, or some flaky Youtuber to make a video to tell me otherwise, since ive done it.

OP asked what his new chosen build looks like & i told him
that looks like a nice build. nothing to Scoff @ certainly. a very capable machine.

im guessing people didnt even bother looking at what OP has posted, once the arguing war began, but he posted a really good build from PCpartpicker. HERE

6 core i5
ROG motherboard
16Gb's RAM

I think your choice to make a proper upgrade is the right one @Horemheb , good luck.
 
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Okay this is what I am looking at. It seems like a decent upgrade for my older parts. What do you think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/39jhVY

Looks good however I would take a beefier air cooler if you plan on an OC. The H7 isn't stellar and these chips do get hot.

Spend 50-70 on the air cooler, get a beefy tower, or at least something rated for 150w+ TDP. That way you can safely clock towards 5.0 Ghz without delid.

However if its about gaming primarily - the 8600k will only show tangible benefits when you want high refresh rates > 90-120 fps.
 
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:kookoo:Now your upgrading his CPU cooler, lock this THREAD!!
 
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That's what I'm saying. The i5 8600K sells for $280, and has since launch basically, and MSRP is actually $260, but supply has been short so prices have been a little inflated. So $30 cheaper than that would be $250. Like I said, there is no way he got a new 4790K for $30 cheaper than a current unlocked i5 8600K unless there was some kind of price error. That would put the price at $250. I bought my 4790K for $280, and that was a pricing error. So, the only way he got one at $250 was by a pricing error(and Microcenter was making a shit-ton of them with the 4790k for some reason). But it really isn't fair to compare the pricing error to prices of the processors today.

The MSRP price for the 4790K at launch was $340 and the MSRP on the 4690K was $240. Now the i7 is $380 and the i5 is $260. So Intel hasn't really jacked the prices up. Yes, during the initial launch the prices have been inflated, but not by Intel's direct doing. The supply has been low, so the retailers have been raising the prices because they can. The street price on a 8700K is over $400 right now, but not because of Intel raising the price, that's just a result of high mark-ups by the retailers. And the 8600K street price is only $280, which really isn't that bad for a 6-core processor that's more powerful than the 7700K.
No pricing error. Bought for $250+tax. It was the price at the time, it was a black friday month long thing, but even after the whole month sale they kept the price throughout the lifetime. I think the i5's then were like $180. It was a great price, sucks the online retailers can't match it because it is in-store only deal.

Edit: It was the newest CPUs at the time. before Broadwell. Right now the 7700k is $260 and the 7600k is $180. Current CPUs are way overpriced. They want $380 for the new 8700K cause it finally has more than 4cores and everyone wants one. When the 4790k came out it was a nice CPU but it wasn't the core jump like 8700K so it wasn't in such high demand making it reasonably priced. Once the norm is 6-core instead of 4 it will lower in price I think. Bleeding edge bleeds wallets.
 
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:kookoo:Now your upgrading his CPU cooler, lock this THREAD!!

are you trying to act like your forum avatar, or what's up?

OP wants an upgrade, we explore the options with him... problems? Note also my third sentence in the last post, pointing out the situational benefit.
 

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Let's keep it from getting personal and insulting, not necessary for any reason here. Only warning.

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HT absolutely helps in modern CPU-intensive games. Especially when running a 1080Ti and 144Hz display on a 4 core.
Get a 4790K that can oc to 4.8GHz or higher. Ryzen ? Why ? That's clearly a productivity oriented CPU, it's good enough for gaming but sorry, if it can't break 4GHz while 4790K has the same IPC and can do 4.7-4.8GHz easily, then it's a very flawed way of thinking.
A new system on 8600K and DDR4 3200 would be better, though will cost you more. Neverthelss, it'll be worth it considering you GPU and display.
 
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Note also my third sentence in the last post, pointing out the situational benefit.
as of late. i just ignore his posts.

I agree, an upgrade would be a good thing to consider....im unfamiliar with the Chip, and its running temps, but if theyre hot, OP will need to tweak here n there.

You have to use this link a LOT dont You ? :roll:
 
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