43" Wasabi Mango UHD430 is World's First Commercially Available 120 Hz, 4K Gaming Monitor

[bug]

Mapping HDR content to actual capabilities of the screen is a mandatory step in outputting HDR content.
AMD FreeSync 2's addressing of "HDR lag" is about doing this step in GPU (which should be much faster than letting TV do it), NV's "HDR GSync' is likely doing the same.

Oh crap. I thought this whole new HDR thing was about eliminating the mapping step.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Happy owner of the UHD430 with freesync and 60hz.
The only thing i don't have is HDR that could be activated via software but they don't release firmware any more .
Even before i got mine in January 2017.
This version with HDR and 120hz looks good but i would wait for the price to drop .

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

So are the wasabi and mango jokes overwith?


Being this a first, I'm sure we will see better featu...everything, soon.

 

[BrokehDM]

This monitor has the most similar spec as the Acer ET430K, which also has 5ms response and HDR-Ready, the brightness is 350nit though.

So I assume they are using the same panel but different controller board. Acer is only half the price for 60Hz.

 

[bug]

This monitor has the most similar spec as the Acer ET430K, which also has 5ms response and HDR-Ready, the brightness is 350nit though.

So I assume they are using the same panel but different controller board. Acer is only half the price for 60Hz.

Similar specs and the same panel don't mean much. The electronics behind the panel and the backlighting can make a night and day difference.

 

[LiveOrDie]

I wonder how is LG allowed to slap the HDR10 tag on something that neither uses local dimming (as required by HDR) nor covers anything beyond sRGB.

Never bothered me lol, i work for LG so i got it half price.

WTF is wrong with the PC monitor market?

When are we ever going to get a PC monitor that is as good as a home HDTV? Any mid to high end home HDTV is going to be better than most of these so called gaming monitors, and most professional monitors too, and not to mention how much cheaper HDTVs are.

Nar i use the 4 way split screen mate, a TV can't do that and i don't want the TV turner crap ether.

 

[bug]

Never bothered me lol, i work for LG so i got it half price.

Well, if you can get them half-price, LG has far better models out there. But of course, I don't know what works best for you.

 

[medi01]

I wonder how is LG allowed to slap the HDR10 tag on something that neither uses local dimming (as required by HDR) nor covers anything beyond sRGB.

It supports HDR10 input, so.

For certifications, there is UHD Premium and DP 400/.../1000 standards.

Similar specs and the same panel don't mean much. The electronics behind the panel and the backlighting can make a night and day difference.

There is no electronics behind panel that can turn 350nit panel into 1000nit.

 

[bug]

It supports HDR10 input, so.

For certifications, there is UHD Premium and DP 400/.../1000 standards.

I guess that's the part I misunderstood. Instead of an end-to-end standard, we get one standard for content, one standard for display and still we have to deal with a form of mapping between the two. Which in turn means vendors get to keep preying on uninformed customers

There is no electronics behind panel that can turn 350nit panel into 1000nit.

Didn't mean to imply that there is. Just that a great panel will look not so great when paired with a cheap implementation.

 

[medi01]

I guess that's the part I misunderstood. Instead of an end-to-end standard, we get one standard for content, one standard for display and still we have to deal with a form of mapping between the two. Which in turn means vendors get to keep preying on uninformed customers

I see it differently.

UHD Alliance and corresponding certification was created to address BS claims "supports HDR". But it only applies to TV appliances.
VESA has created another standard that covers monitors (including those on Notebooks).

"Form of mapping" exists not because someone misfired, but because it's the better way to display contents, an alternative would be "let us pretend it's always 1000 nit max".
With current standard devices can dish out whatever they can, be it 1000 nit, less or more, entire range can be utilized.

 

[bug]

I see it differently.

UHD Alliance and corresponding certification was created to address BS claims "supports HDR". But it only applies to TV appliances.
VESA has created another standard that covers monitors (including those on Notebooks).

"Form of mapping" exists not because someone misfired, but because it's the better way to display contents, an alternative would be "let us pretend it's always 1000 nit max".
With current standard devices can dish out whatever they can, be it 1000 nit, less or more, entire range can be utilized.

And the end result is: "See this HDR10+ mastered movie? It's supposed to look 400-1000 nits bright, depending on which screen you're watching." There's no way to tell whether the image you're looking at is the one the camera originally saw.

 

[Gasaraki]

I accept 1000nits "sweet spot" on a monitor as "hurt my eyes", generally.

HDR1000 does not mean the display is throwing 1000 nits at you all the time. You would run the display (tv or monitor) at the comfortable nit that you like but when a scene calls for peak brightness (programed in to the movie or game) the display will try to display that at the programed brightness. For example, bright sunshine, lightning, etc.

Never bothered me lol, i work for LG so i got it half price.



Nar i use the 4 way split screen mate, a TV can't do that and i don't want the TV turner crap ether.

HDR10 is a color spec, not brightness...

 

[medi01]

HDR1000 does not mean the display is throwing 1000 nits at you all the time.

Thank you, stranger, I am puzzled why you'd think I don't get that.

at the comfortable nit that you like but when a scene calls for peak brightness (programed in to the movie or game) the display will try to display that at the programed brightness.

As an owner of an actual HDR TV, no, thank you very much.

 

[skates]

I am very interested in this and will likely buy it once the new NV graphics cards ship later this year.
I have a 43" 4K 60Hz monitor, Korean made and it is absolutely beastly. I have a 1080Ti on water to drive it and the immersion is fabulous. Battlefront II is like being in a movie with all eye candy turned up to max and still get 100fps.

Since my 43" monitor is made as a monitor, the bezels are thin and the stands are out of the way, so it is very comfortable as a desktop monitor and doesn't resemble a TV at all, because it's not. It has a small form factor. Since it's a Korean monitor, the panel is LG and I paid a little more for the A+ rating, meaning no dead pixels. I paid $500 for it 2 years ago and its 10 bit color and Chroma 444. Battlefield 1 is absolutely amazing on it.

Wasabi, Catleap, etc have been around for a long time with a strong track record, including the old days of finding panels that would over clock your monitor to 120Hz on 1440p. Don't be afraid to purchase a Wasabi from an Ebay seller, it's not a junk company and the panels are likely all LG anyway.

The fact that Wasabi is releasing this monitor gives me hope that finally we will see a push into large 4K monitors at 120Hz since these vendors were the ones who initially pushed 120Hz on 1440p while the main stream manufacturers were a sleep at the wheel, and still are in many ways.

Good on Wasabi, this means happy days ahead for PC monitors.