Doesn't look like next gen Navi high end Radeon is coming to gamers anytime soon

[ShurikN]

Read the piece yesterday and I agree with most of the stuff written, but with the dates not so much.

If AMD decides to skip Vega 7nm for gamers, they will most likely push Navi launch to the middle of 2019 (Q2 at best).
If they decide to push Navi to the end of 2019, they'll probably launch something on 7nm for gamers in Q1 2019.
I don't see any other option that ends well for them.
They simply cannot have 0 presence in the high end gaming desktop space for more than 2 years. They'll lose even this little market share that they have.
They have to have something, anything, to battle it out with next nVidia release. At least in the xx80 range and down.

 

[xkm1948]

I wish Raja waste a whole bunch of money on more of his indian movie investments. Just like what he did at RTG when AMD was bleeding cash.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...-koduri-discusses-making-movie-and-vr-magic/2

 

[R0H1T]

More like Raja fucked up RTG and took off.

Let's hope he continues the good work

Read the piece yesterday and I agree with most of the stuff written, but with the dates not so much.

If AMD decides to skip Vega 7nm for gamers, they will most likely push Navi launch to the middle of 2019 (Q2 at best).
If they decide to push Navi to the end of 2019, they'll probably launch something on 7nm for gamers in Q1 2019.
I don't see any other option that ends well for them.
They simply cannot have 0 presence in the high end gaming desktop space for more than 2 years. They'll lose even this little market share that they have.
They have to have something, anything, to battle it out with next nVidia release. At least in the xx80 range and down.

I hate to break it to you but a lot of that depends on the spare capacity that GF, TSMC, Sammy will have for AMD. EPYC, TR & even Ryzen are ahead in the pecking order, not to mention Sony & PS5
I believe if there's lots of spare capacity, only then will we see Navi in a gaming dGPU otherwise the release might be pushed back towards the end of 2019, at the latest.

 

[kastriot]

Well there isno loyality in bussiness and about navi for gamers i don't think so, miners will grab all gpu-s again and again..

 

[Vayra86]

Read the piece yesterday and I agree with most of the stuff written, but with the dates not so much.

If AMD decides to skip Vega 7nm for gamers, they will most likely push Navi launch to the middle of 2019 (Q2 at best).
If they decide to push Navi to the end of 2019, they'll probably launch something on 7nm for gamers in Q1 2019.
I don't see any other option that ends well for them.
They simply cannot have 0 presence in the high end gaming desktop space for more than 2 years. They'll lose even this little market share that they have.
They have to have something, anything, to battle it out with next nVidia release. At least in the xx80 range and down.

Surely you are not STILL convinced AMD has the PC gamer in focus right? We're getting scraps and leftovers and are just bonus income. AMD isn't shifting jack all to battle Nvidia, they have given up. And make no mistake, that train already left the station when they struck their console deals with Sony and MS. And it showed, first in rebrands, then in Fury, then in Vega, and Polaris was an easy win.

The puzzle piece that was missing in this for me for a few years now was 'how are they going to ever get back in the game' but the reality is, they just don't, they shifted the focus to custom silicon and we all saw it and said 'oh, but now our PC games get more optimized as well, nice' You see, for consoles, all they really need are some mid-range performers, and that is what they've developed the past few years for 'gamers'.

 

[dir_d]

I think they will get back to gamers but they need money on the enterprise front first. Once they get the money on that front they can make a GPU to compete with NVidia. If they were to make a high end GPU now and even if it beat the 1080TI it would still sale like crap due to Gamer mind share. RTG wouldnt make money to even cover costs on the GPU, thats how dominate NVidia is right now. RTG needs the enterprise money first so they can do battle on the consumer side.

 

[neatfeatguy]

Surely you are not STILL convinced AMD has the PC gamer in focus right? We're getting scraps and leftovers and are just bonus income. AMD isn't shifting jack all to battle Nvidia, they have given up. And make no mistake, that train already left the station when they struck their console deals with Sony and MS. And it showed, first in rebrands, then in Fury, then in Vega, and Polaris was an easy win.

The puzzle piece that was missing in this for me for a few years now was 'how are they going to ever get back in the game' but the reality is, they just don't, they shifted the focus to custom silicon and we all saw it and said 'oh, but now our PC games get more optimized as well, nice' You see, for consoles, all they really need are some mid-range performers, and that is what they've developed the past few years for 'gamers'.

Didn't folks kind of think AMD was out of the HEDT CPUs once they pulled the plug on their Steamroller FX lineup? That was back at the end of 2013 or maybe start of 2014.

Ryzen wasn't announced (to my knowledge) until the end of 2016. To me, it looked like AMD might have been out of the HEDT CPUs once they pulled the plug on their Bulldozer/Piledriver/Steamroller/Excavator lineup. Several years went by before I saw AMD was trying to make a return to desktop CPUs.

Perhaps something similar may happen with their GPU department. I wouldn't count them out yet and I wouldn't underestimate them, like Intel did.