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I wish phone companies made the batteries bigger when they made these monolithic things that ideally would fit in a normal person's pocket.
True, i got a Nokia 7 though it lasts two days in use so they're getting better ,I can't understand why people pay so much though , never will.
 
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As I mentioned previously, my son uses them for flying ... keeps flight logs, files flight plans, fight plan maps displayed on phone. He originally used an iPad but with the ability to use on phones now, the smaller form factor is of great value because in a cockpit, space in your field of view is limited and, the bigger the device, eats up space and often blocks view of instruments and gauges.


6.2 inch S8+ plus here, still pocketable and can handle it with one hand just fine. I genuinely cannot understand why people still complain about this. The matter of the fact is the overwhelming majority of us do want huge phones and can use them just fine.

If you are annoyed by this then I am sorry to say this but your in the minority here, not the other way around and phone manufacturer will always cater to the majority.

As far as the "majority of us" ... it depends on who the "us" is. In the office and on the jobsite, the smaller or what i call "medium" form factors are far more prevalent. Those who use their phones for productivity prefer the smaller from factor by an overwhelming margin. Those who use their phones mainly for entertainment purposes or to occupy idle time, that segment overwhelmingly prefers the larger form factors.

My three sons, all had the larger form factor phones .... the oldest, keeps his phone in his flight bag. The other two, well they both have bent phones from keeping in pockets. They plant to switch to smaller (medium) form factor with next upgrade.

Logical folks should select the form factor that best suits them. Sometimes, what we think we want doesn't work out so well as 2 of my sons found out and a more appropriate choice is made next tie out. In many instances, it's going to me more about impressing their peers than picking what works best.

I find that at a 3" width I am struggling a bit to securely hold the device and reach all points on the screen ... so 2-3/4" is about my limit width wise. Length wise, 5.5" is OK.... 6" is bordering on uncomfortable in my pocket. My wife, she has the iPhone 6 and finds the form factor just right for her.... the 6+ was too big.

But in the end, I am at a loss to understand why anyone cares about what other people do. As long as companies have a market to fill, manufacturers will build phones for this segment. One other thing I notice is that people are people are changing how they use their phone. In 2005, I did everything on my phone ... edited documents and spreadsheets, answered emails, you name it. By 2010, no longer touched documents .... not that the phone couldn't do it... I was simply inefficient, the small screen the thumb typing, was an inefficient use of time. When on the road, It was faster to pop up to my hotel room and open the lappie then sit their thumb typing. I still answered emails, but only if they were a one sentence necessary type. Now I don't even enable email on the phone. I'm never more than 2 -3 hours from opening the lappie and I can be so much more efficient there.
 
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I never understood this absurd obsession to make everything bigger. Just have 2 designs, regular at 5 to 5.2" and that phablet with gigantic screen for people who want stupid big screen. The 5-5.2" is perfectly sized to be big enough while comfortably operated with one hand. And they fit everywhere perfectly. When I'll be looking for new phone, I'll have to make sure it even fits in my car slot for mobile phone coz it only fits up to 5.3" max (and even this will be tightly already). People demand stupid resolutions and screen sizes and entirely forgetting phone is suppose to also be convenient. Being this massive chopping board is anything but that.
 

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I never understood this absurd obsession to make everything bigger. Just have 2 designs, regular at 5 to 5.2" and that phablet with gigantic screen for people who want stupid big screen. The 5-5.2" is perfectly sized to be big enough while comfortably operated with one hand. And they fit everywhere perfectly. When I'll be looking for new phone, I'll have to make sure it even fits in my car slot for mobile phone coz it only fits up to 5.3" max (and even this will be tightly already). People demand stupid resolutions and screen sizes and entirely forgetting phone is suppose to also be convenient. Being this massive chopping board is anything but that.

each to their own. Im running a Mate 9 which is 5.9" or 6" Browsing or consuming media when away from home is a joy on a bigger screen.

I think 6-6.3" is probably the limit because anything above that just looks like youre holding a big chocolate bar against the side of your head. And remember the days of the 7" Sony Ultra's and similar samsungs and i cannot understand why they want a phone so big.

My point being that the market is absolutely spoilt for choices. If you think one phone is too big then dont bloody buy it and buy something smaller that fits your hand. Theres probably a few hundred other devices that do this.
 
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It's not that easy. Especially when they dumb down the smaller model. Battery being smaller, fine, you don't have such a huge brick to cram it into, but dumbing down RAM, procesor and so fort is unforgiving. And with that being said it's not "then don't buy that" when you like a particular model.
 

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They could easily make it a little thicker to compensate for smaller screen size if battery capacity is really that important. They've made phones so thin these days, they're flimsy. They've made corners of the phone so close to the panel, it shatters when dropped on the corner. Everything about phone design is about form over function, and that's wrong for most consumers. Caterpillar is really the only phone manufacturer that makes a phone meant to be used as a phone and that is very, very sad.
 
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I personally think the 7.9 inch size of the iPad mini line is the perfect size. Anything smaller or bigger is just too much.
 
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I have a s8 plus and I love the size of the screen, 6.2in. I am away from home alot and watch lots of show/movies on the phone. I tried the s8, love it but wanted something a bit bigger on the screen department.
 
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Only way I'd consider iPhone is if they have better privacy practices compared to Google's Android. Is there any info on that? Google lives of our personal data, with Apple, you pay huge money for their product. Do they respect privacy any better because of it or are they the same as Google underneath?
 
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This summer when having to switch the phone, I was looking for a phone that would be 14cm (5.5") long at max. Basically 5" screen max, smaller if possible. I need a basic (smart)phone, average requirements on the hardware but since I want to keep that for several years wanted a new-ish model (2017+), 4 cores, 4GB RAM (as I have had a chance to use Android phones with less, IOS or Windows would probably be fine with 2GB), 32+GB space and late-ish OS like Android 8 (or iOS 11 or Windows 10).

GSMArena search gave me 2 phones that match this search - Sony Xperia ZX1/ZX2 Compact. I do not like Sony's take on the software and ZX1/ZX2 did not feel good in my hand.
Started letting go of some requirements - I thought I can live with 2GB RAM and a phone from 2016 and did a new search. What got added were Sony Xperia X Compact (that is discontinued) and Iphone 7/8.

The thing is, all of these phones except Iphone 8 were pretty much at the same price anyway and that is how I ended up with an Iphone. Because it is small.

I would want a smaller phone if I could but there are no smaller phones on the market. And truth to be told, current crop of OS-s are not usable anymore with screens under 4.5" :(
 
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Oh boy, checked iPhone Xs prices and it starts at 1200€ for 64GB. That's just absolutely bonkers. I may be looking at privacy more seriously recently, but 1200€ is a bit absurd premium to pay in order to get it. Coz I'm trusting Google less and less to a point I only have Android left as the only Google product I still need to get rid of.

iPhone XR looks very similar, just smaller and with LCD display, but I couldn't find any prices. Or type of construction...
 
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On a side note ... if ya getting a new phone and been looking at reviews for wireless chargers, you will find dozens of "Top 5" / "Top 10" whatever reviews recommending WCs for the Xs and Xmax. Problem is, the reviewers, didn't bother to check with the manufacturers; they just assumed that the 10w chargers that are used on the Samsing phones would work on the new Apples.... they don't, at least not properly. My son ordered a Ravpower and then canceled it when they told him it was not compatable... at least not yet. Deems they are testing the older model, and while hardware wise, it will work, it has not been calibrated for the new versions. He called two other vendors, and was told to hold off.
 
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I'm no woman, but my hands are a bit on the smaller side and... boy, oh boy, do I hate it when I have to use new phones once in a while. Now, I fully realize I'm a minority here, but I think the perfect phone size goes to... the iPhone 4(S) - yes, that old thing.

These new phones, they're so wide - yet so thin - you barely have anything to hold on to. You can't possibly not drop them at some point during their lifetime. Not to mention how the screen almost (and sometimes completely) touches the side - you can't help but accidentally send your mom that drunk selfie you thought you had deleted - while trying to hold the phone with one hand and type.

While I'm on topic - how do you accurately tap the top of the display with your thumb? Oh, you re-adjust the phone in your hand and move it lower? Yeah, also one of the perfect ways to drop it and render it useless.

Call me old school but I just don't find new phones ergonomic at all. Half your clothes don't have pockets big enough, and those that do - well, better forget about squatting with that back pocket.

You know which people have very small hands and very large phones? Middle school kids. I swear, their parents buy them some of the largest phones and phablets known to man, and it looks absolutely ridiculous. But hey, why can't Jimmy have one when Petey already has one...

What also drives me moderately mad is the fact that - save for the iPhone SE - you can't find any remotely half-decent smaller new(ish) phones. What you get are some 4 inch 1.2GHz DualCore 1GB ram 8GB storage 480x800 models that cost around $40. I know it's hard to cram decent components in a small area, and I'm not asking for quantum computer level processing power, but it's either Apple's grossly overpriced walled garden or China's no-name tier. Ugly, simply ugly.



I read somewhere that as humans evolve, our constant interaction with touchscreens will eventually force our fingers to become thinner and longer, but you know what... I won't live to see it. I vote with my wallet and it firmly refuses to reward manufacturers for giving me the middle finger.

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Oh boy, checked iPhone Xs prices and it starts at 1200€ for 64GB. That's just absolutely bonkers. I may be looking at privacy more seriously recently, but 1200€ is a bit absurd premium to pay in order to get it. Coz I'm trusting Google less and less to a point I only have Android left as the only Google product I still need to get rid of.

iPhone XR looks very similar, just smaller and with LCD display, but I couldn't find any prices. Or type of construction...

I mean even if you use Apple, you're using Bing search engine which I am sure has plenty of machine learning that it takes from every search you do with Siri or manually...
 

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Gee, first world problems...
 

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Not really. It just reflects this world's current sjw and pc and culture

Or you know, telegraph.co.uk is known for stirring the political pot. Which I'd say they may be based on this article. It seems many fall for this type of press as well.
 
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Yes the new phone is nice and All but not including a fast charger ($70 for it) is beyond stupidity. Apple fails hard. I spent what... $20 for a cable and the charger for my S8+….. F*OFF Shitty Apple
 

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That 230 looks sexy.

wish one of the models was a flip phone though. nice and slim with new tech. but no hardcore stuff, just a simple phone that can do maybe youtube and thats it. lol
 
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If only there was widely adopted Android ecosystem without Google infested crap. It seems that if you want privacy, you only have a choice of a) dumb phone b) flashing phone with custom ROM that has all the Google tracking shit removed c) using Apple products which have better privacy, but cost muchos more

Not much of a choice then...
 

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I mean even if you use Apple, you're using Bing search engine which I am sure has plenty of machine learning that it takes from every search you do with Siri or manually...
How do you figure it’s using Bing? I’m not arguing just asking. I mean I have my 6S and Air2 set to use Duck Duck Go for search engines but as far as what you’re saying I’m quite curious.
 
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