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Power supply analyzer for better OC or longer PC life

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Hi, i really like the idea and i could actually make a use of it right now as my PSU is getting really old, but... 100 euros. I think i'd rather just put it towards getting new PSU than a device that will tell me to buy a new PSU :)
 
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Neat... but, really this is living in the minutia...even for enthusiasts. Most people, even here at an 'enthusiast' site, dont even know what ripple is.

Is there a prize involved ? :)

1. A cheap alcoholic drink from the 1960s - 70s from Ernest and Julio

2. A Grateful Dead song ... h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_(electrical)

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_(electrical)

I tasted the 1st ... once, listened to the 2nd quite a lot and the 3rd, I'll read about it but not going to measure it.
 
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I am new in this forum, so I didn't know I was writing in bold. I should have previewed my message.

Vayra86, you made good points. Thank you, but one assumption is wrong. Failure of the power supply can be diagnosed long before it happens. There is such thing called ATX specification. For example, 12V supply can have up to 120mV of ripple (instantaneous fluctuation), that is not what you are measuring with a multimeter. Well technically you could, but that would be very expensive multimeter with at least 20MHz bandwidth. Anyway, that is rather complex measurement (easily done with an oscilloscope and proper probes).

Again on 12V rail, you could have 120mV of ripple, but the system will work just fine with 200mV of ripple too, but in case of sudden increase in load there might be some freezes or hibernation problems, increased power dissipation and thus temperatures on VRMs, reduced stabile overclocking clocks and stuff like that. My device would alarm you if ripple goes out of spec and you will know that problem up front waits you even if you own three years old Seasonic Prime.

Thank you, everybody. I will check in several other forums, but if the general trend keeps like this I might just make one for my own use.

OK, but then the next step: fixing that ripple. Its not happening, most people will be going out to replace parts. And the better half barely has an idea about what value of ripple is 'OK' and what is too high. If ripple tends to go out of ATX spec, most good reviewers will point that out and you'd never buy the unit to begin with. So the bottom line, is that all you get is a fancy advanced warning to RMA your PSU. Anyway :) I'm sure there is a market for this regardless, its just not going to be big, and it would be a mistake to put this under the same category as, say, a fan controller + temp monitor, but I think that point has landed already :)
 
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I would buy one.
 

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ShrimpBrime>>> Thank you for comment, it is very important for me. I had forgotten that people do not understand basics of electronics. You brought me back down to earth. And no, PSU is not stabilized by a motherboard, otherwise, nobody would measure ripple.

Shambles1980>>> That would no good. What more if capacitors bank is >4700uF PSU is very likely to be unable to start.
dorsetknob>>> Not exactly true. I have been making measurements using devices like oscilloscopes, electronics loads and bench multimeters (roughly $2500 in total). Which is not very convenient, especially if you have to move them to a friend's house for a measurement.

satrianiboys>>> Power supplies do not lose their power with age, just output voltage ripple (aka quality of power) gets worse and at one point in time end equipment (in your case GPU) is no longer capable to cope with it. That results in poor power fed to GPU core and GPU crashes. It is like like filling a car tank with gasoline and give a test drive 5 years later. One car might be able to start and run somehow, others would not even start. What is different from the car example is that PSU output ripple is proportional to load. So reducing load in your case removing one GPU reduce ripple and your seems run fine again (for some time). By replacing output caps (which degrade over operational time) you would technically have like new PSU with good 4-7 years of operation till next servicing. Input cap rarely gets bad, but I had one in 13 years. I took an image from toms hardware and attached it to this message, you can have a better understanding.

londiste>>>Yes, but not in the first version. I will have to hire somebody to make nice Windows and Linux software for which I do not have resources at the moment.

Vayra86>>> I have Seasonic S12II-430. It is low end supposedly reliable PSU. Just after one year of use in non overclocked system with FX8350, 275GTX, 32GB of ram, 4HDDs and one ssd it is already out of specs. It usually draws less than 200W, sometimes going to 350W, but still lower than rated 430W. That should not be a problem, especially having in mind that this model can work up to 500W when new (tested by hardware secrets). By now PC works fine, except it randomly wakes up from sleep. I traced it down to transient filter, but that is off topic. What I wanted to say, it is an excellent PSU for value according to reviews, but just after one year of use it is out off specs and still under warranty. My device would beep like crazy till you press a button to shut up (that do not seem fancy warning system), so you would know that PSU is going bad, despite system works almost fine.

I agree that it does not belong to the same category as fan controllers and temperature monitor, but I am not sure where.
 

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