ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 Pictured: No Power Connector

btarunr · Apr 9, 2019

Here are some of the first clear renders of an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 graphics card, this particular one from ZOTAC. The GTX 1650, slated for April 22, will be the most affordable GPU based on the "Turing" architecture, when launched. The box art confirms this card features 4 GB of GDDR5 memory. The ZOTAC card is compact and SFF-friendly, is no longer than the PCIe slot itself, and is 2 slots-thick. Its cooler is a simple fan-heatsink with an 80 mm fan ventilating an aluminium heatsink with radially-projecting fins. The card can make do with the 75W power drawn from the PCIe slot, and has no additional power connectors. Display outputs include one each of DisplayPort 1.4, HDMI 2.0b, and a dual-link DVI-D.

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IceScreamer · Apr 9, 2019

Oh yes, tell me more, would be nice to upgrade my 750Ti.
I wonder if the 1650Ti will lack the 6pin as well.

jabbadap · Apr 9, 2019

Hmm wonder how many SFF case have full high graphics card slot. Custom cases sure, but I don't remember that I have ever seen such a thing from PC vendors. So calling it SFF friendly is a bit stretch, miniITX for sure.

kastriot · Apr 9, 2019

I prefer cards with at least one 6 pin connector, less drain from pci-e slot and more OC headroom.

Vayra86 · Apr 9, 2019

Pretty neat, the 750ti was also a pretty interesting card for its days. The overall performance is now getting to a point where this becomes all the more interesting. SFF boxes with capable GPU is still a difficult bit of terrain.

jabbadap · Apr 9, 2019

Vayra86 said:
Pretty neat, the 750ti was also a pretty interesting card for its days. The overall performance is now getting to a point where this becomes all the more interesting. SFF boxes with capable GPU is still a difficult bit of terrain.

Well custom made SFF PC, i.e. some of the silverstone Milo series case, is where you can get very powerful dgpu and with Standard SFX psu power to drive that.

But yeah used business SFF PCs, with only low profile card slots and low wattage proprietary psus. Pcie slot powered LP cards are the only choices out there.

HimymCZe · Apr 9, 2019

IceScreamer said:
Oh yes, tell me more, would be nice to upgrade my 750Ti.
I wonder if the 1650Ti will lack the 6pin as well.

..., except it isn't. If nGreedia follow its formula matching price-performance all across the board, this card will have TRIPPLE as expensive cost-per-frame to RX 570 and DOUBLE to RX 580.

B-Real · Apr 9, 2019

IceScreamer said:
Oh yes, tell me more, would be nice to upgrade my 750Ti.
I wonder if the 1650Ti will lack the 6pin as well.

The RX 570 will slaughter it in every aspect. And it costs less than the 1650.

The 1660 and the 1660Ti are the best in the 20 series in my opinion. The 1650 is among the worst with the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti.

IceScreamer · Apr 9, 2019

HimymCZe said:
..., except it isn't. If nGreedia follow its formula matching price-performance all across the board, this card will have TRIPPLE as expensive cost-per-frame to RX 570 and DOUBLE to RX 580.

B-Real said:
The RX 570 will slaughter it in every aspect. And it costs less than the 1650.

The 1660 and the 1660Ti are the best in the 20 series in my opinion. The 1650 is among the worst with the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti.

First of all, we do not know the performance of this card, second of all, this will consume a lot less power while providing the performance delta that I need, compared to the 750Ti. The RX570 is a good card, but it's getting long in the tooth and I really doubt it will "slaughter" the 1650 and give three times better cost-per-frame.

catulitechup · Apr 9, 2019

Very good card with outstanding perf/watt ratio without forget small size

Hopefully amd can give some competition in future (maybe with arcturus, at least gcn can get out)

danbert2000 · Apr 10, 2019

HimymCZe said:
..., except it isn't. If nGreedia follow its formula matching price-performance all across the board, this card will have TRIPPLE as expensive cost-per-frame to RX 570 and DOUBLE to RX 580.

Seeing as the 1660 is only $220 and this card will be cheaper and likely beat both, I don't think we're going to see double the cost per frame. Maybe 50% more cost per frame, but you gain a lot by not having to connect external power, having such a small card, and having only 75 W of heat to dissipate.

chaosmassive · Apr 10, 2019

the GTX 750 Ti is dead, long live GTX 1650
(IF power connector is absent from any AIB)

R0H1T · Apr 10, 2019

750Ti was a 60W card, just sayin' :toast:

GoldenX · Apr 10, 2019

Good news for small PSU users.

jabbadap · Apr 10, 2019

R0H1T said:
750Ti was a 60W card, just sayin'

So is gtx1050 ti(no matter what nvidia says in their spec sheet). 75W TDP card would need a 6-pin connector or buck converter for 3.3V lane, which I don't think any of graphics card maker does. Max allowed amperage for 12V lane is 5.5A thus 66W power is maximum that pcie slot can handle within the pcie sig spec.

danbert2000 · Apr 10, 2019

GoldenX said:
Good news for small PSU users.

If you can find a small PSU. I swear, 400W is the minimum nowadays unless you're going with the really small Flex stuff.

GoldenX · Apr 10, 2019

danbert2000 said:
If you can find a small PSU. I swear, 400W is the minimum nowadays unless you're going with the really small Flex stuff.

I'm thinking stock PSU on generic cases.

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ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 Pictured: No Power Connector

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