Tkpenalty's X1950~HD4k Clubhouse

[Widjaja]

I've been playing Most Wanted, and with the 7.7 drivers the performance was pitiful, my 7600GT performed better.

Haven't tried it out with the 7.6 drivers though. Will let you know when I do.

How Ironic my 7600GS played it better than my X1950pro and I'm using 7.6 drivers at the moment.

I'll be doing some tests of my own.
I'm going to be trying out my brothers old Sapphire X800pro and see how NFSMW plays.
Although I don't thinkyou can use motion blur with X800pros being shader v2.0.

Wierd BIOS overclocking a GPU.

Never heard of that.

 

[tkpenalty]

NFS:MW uses INT HRD and Motion blur has nothing to do with Pixel shader standards.

 

[mitsirfishi]

ive noticed sinse i am running vista i know errrr gota it from a torrent and activated and that and compaired to my stripped out version of xp it isnt killing my fps hardy in testdrive unlimited which at 1440x900 and 2AA and high settings 45 fps general

 

[Autiem Sel]

Cheers for the tips, ahll be on the tweak tonight and let yous know how I get on.

 

[Autiem Sel]

Using 3Dmark06 I got identical scores for the 7.6 and 7.7 drivers...

7.6 : score 4160, sm2 1805, hdr 2126, cpu 890
7.7 : score 4160, sm2 1800, hdr 2130, cpu 890

Both cpu tests ran at less than 1fps and its score is relatively low, is my P4 3ghz crippling the performance of my card?

 

[TonyStark]

Probably.

I'd say bump the CPU to 3.2GHz, then test 3DM06, then bump it up to 3.4GHz and test again. Check if the SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores increase. If they do, then there was a CPU bottleneck @ 3.0GHz.

Make sure you have good cooling. Those netburst cores get pretty hot.

 

[imperialreign]

Both cpu tests ran at less than 1fps and its score is relatively low, is my P4 3ghz crippling the performance of my card?

yeah, I'd have to say so - I'm in the same boat with you on that, my Pentium4 HT 3.06GHz (524 Prescott) really hampers my scores with 3DM06, too, and I can't go any faster with it throught the BIOS (I'm thinkin I'm gonna try Clockgen soon) - that, and my mobo tops out at 233MHz on the mem clocks , even though the DDR I have supports much faster - oh, well, I needed the new PC - now I just got to save for a new mobo/CPU.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I get about 1000 points higher when i overclock my CPU does that mean it is a bottle neck?

 

[TonyStark]

I get about 1000 points higher when i overclock my CPU does that mean it is a bottle neck?

If overclocking your CPU increases the SM2.0 score and SM3.0 score in 3DM06 -- which are based on the frame rates of the Graphics Tests -- then yes, there was a bottleneck before overclocking.

Otherwise, no, there was no CPU bottleneck despite the overall score going up.

 

[imperialreign]

You can try flashing the following bios (backup your current bios first!) attached below, it's from a Sapphire X1950 Pro 256MB card based on the newer revision PCB.

Note you do this at your own risk, make sure you know how to blind flash the card back to default bios should anything go wrong!

ATI don't manufacture the cards themselves, the ATI branded cards are usually manufactured by the likes of Sapphire/VisionTek etc.

Alright . . . I went and flashed my GPU BIOS - had to use the force parameter, as ATiFlash threw an error over the vendor ID. Anyhow - my X1950 PRO will run on your Sapphire BIOS, and stable at those clock speeds . . . but, I still had no hardware monitoring, even after re-installing ATiTool, RivaTuner and ATi Tray Tools. Overdrive was also not supported in CCC - even though RaBit reported back that OD was enabled. Like I mentioned, my bbATI ran stable with the SAP BIOS, but without the hardware monitoring, I just went and flashed the stock BIOS back .

Man . . . this has really got me stumped!

 

[tkpenalty]

Very odd... Dont know why it wouldnt have hardware monitoring. Anyway, guys use the 7.8 Drivers, they improve on 7.6 Drivers a lot.

 

[Autiem Sel]

Thanks Tony, oc'd my cpu and got better results :

3DMark Score 4483 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1912 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2235 Marks
CPU Score 1016 Marks

So it seems there was cpu bottlenecking as the SM scores went up by 100.
Ranked #2 in the similar system comparison so I'm very happy with the results.

I'll try the 7.8 drivers and see if the scores improve. (And I'll scrub my shroud til it sparkles)

 

[binormalkilla]

Well I sold the X1950 Pros and got an HIS 2900XT 1Gb. It's NICE!
3dmark with my E6600 at 3 GHz, stock clocks on the card.

 

[imperialreign]

Very odd... Dont know why it wouldnt have hardware monitoring. Anyway, guys use the 7.8 Drivers, they improve on 7.6 Drivers a lot.

yeah, I don't understand why I wouldn't have hardware monitoring after flashing an enabled BIOS Anyhow, I used RaBit to change the fan/temp table to something a little more . . . to my liking, re-saved my bios and reflashed the card with that. According to RaBit, it took . . . but I haven't been able to push the card hard enough to hear the changes yet.

Oh, and I tried! Lord I tried! Out of boredom, I went ahead an OC the card using ATiTool - stock was 575/688; squeezed out a stable 601/749. By 3M06 scores at default settings, I went from a score of 3370 to 3459. Then, I let 3M06 run all of it's tests on repeat for like 6 hours this morning while I was asleep - still running when I woke up. No visual anomalies, etc. SpeedFan temps are still where they were before, ambient only went up about 2C. Still, though, I'm sure that card is getting hot (still wish I knew exactly how hot!), but I defi don't hear the fan. I don't think I'll try pushing any more out of it without monitoring, though.

 

[tkpenalty]

I better make a HD2900XT Siggy.... waait guys its coming!!

 

[Darknova]

Very odd... Dont know why it wouldnt have hardware monitoring. Anyway, guys use the 7.8 Drivers, they improve on 7.6 Drivers a lot.

7.8? I can't find 7.8 on the AMD site....still lists 7.7 as the latest.

EDIT: Oops, just noticed the New post

 

[tkpenalty]

http://www.overclockersclub.com/vimages/sapphire1950pro/3.jpg

See that Aluminium heatsink guys? The X1950PROs now have THAT + the X1950GT Stock cooler (better than X1950PRO stock cooler). So yeah go for sapphire if you have to go cheap. It will simplify installation by a lot as well.

 

[erocker]

Wierd, no one sells my x1950 pro anymore? All I can find is the lower clock non-vivo version. What gives with that?

 

[imperialreign]

See that Aluminium heatsink guys? The X1950PROs now have THAT + the X1950GT Stock cooler (better than X1950PRO stock cooler). So yeah go for sapphire if you have to go cheap. It will simplify installation by a lot as well.

more than likely I'll pick one up after I upgrade to a crossfire capable mobo.

 

[tkpenalty]

Signatures ready guys.... Tried to keep it simple; how AMD likes it.

I've cleaned the front page up and I'll soon have more articles up.

 

[imperialreign]

that sig looks decent, man


doubling back, here . . .

more than likely I'll pick one up after I upgrade to a crossfire capable mobo.

opinions!! => would it be a better idea to upgrade my mobo first, possibly to something I "MIGHT" be able to OC this <insert explative here> Penitum4 with until I can afford a new proc - or would it be best to sit on it until I can do both the proc and mobo at the same time?

 

[p_o_s_pc]

the sig looks good but what about the x1950 owners you should make one with the 1950 and the hd2000.I know you have a 1950 already but maybe a new one.

 

[tkpenalty]

Thing is forget about crossfire for anything other than the HD2900XT. Its not economical to crossfire since its cheaper to have a single card that performs faster. Thats unless you already have something like an X1950PRO. Oh yeah check the first page P O S PC. If you have the card, you can automaticlaly use the siggy.

< Can someone redo this for me?

Oh yeah and the popular one

GRAB THE SIGGY's WHILE THEY ARE VALID. Try to link it.

 

[imperialreign]

< Can someone redo this for me?

I might, if no one's taken up with it by the end of the week - I won't have the spare time until the weekend . . . I was thinkin about doin one based off of my card design for personal use, seeing as how I found a good amount of publicity shots of this card (although of a Diamond Media -they look exactly the same), so . . .

Thing is forget about crossfire for anything other than the HD2900XT

the 2900s perform that much better, huh? <edit: that was a stoopid question, huh?!!> Is it possible to xfire a 1950 with a 2900, or no go on that? Reason being, if I do up- the mobo, I was thinking of tacking on a SAP 1950 in the near future (prob before the end of the year), but if she'll work with a 2900 instead . . .

. . . then later scrap the 1950 I currently have for another 2x00 card.



edit: had time while downloading files to get that sig re-done, made the ATi logo a little more legible (unless . . . did you want it transparent?). I've attached it, let me know if it's alright.

 

[tkpenalty]

Looks good, but kill that font though... Arial = GAY. Verdana please.