Not trying to any more, I'm happy with the 6150K8MA-8KRS Bios, But I think Salexson has made some progress.
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Gateway Owners, C51GU01 Motherboard
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Not trying to any more, I'm happy with the 6150K8MA-8KRS Bios, But I think Salexson has made some progress.
I think there must be some differences, for some reason it runs more stable. I thinks it's because of the OCZ Ram of mine, but could be because of the X1900XTX. I think I got the flashing down now, have not had any probs for a while.
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EDIT: The C51GU01 is not a 6100K8MA-RS with Gateways options on it; it seems to be a µBTX clone of a Foxconn 6100K8MA series motherboard. I noticed that the Foxconn 6100K8MA-RS motherboad is of µATX form factor while the Foxconn C51GU01 motherboard is of µBTX form factor.
EDITED: Xerphon and other, would you please paste a BIOS Agent (see link below) report after crossflash for reference?
I was planning on flashing a Foxconn C51GU01 motherboard, but have not yet.
EDIT: Attachment has been removed. Dirrect link to the BIOS Agent 3.66 download: http://download.esupport.com/biosagent/gb/ba.exe
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Yes the form factors are different. What will realy confuse you is that both of those mobo's and a version offered by ECS, Biostarr, and Gigabyte are all the same and all manufatured by the same company; FIC. The motherboards all have minute differences mostly in the BIOS. The C51GU01 and the C51GU01-G1, and the 6100K8MA series are so closeley identical that the BIOS files are interchangeable but not necessarily compatable. The biggest question being do you have the Foxconn C51GU01 or the C51GU01-G1.
What model # is your Gateway, and If you look at the 20(20+4) mobo connector does your connector have 4 empty holes towards the back(20pin) or is it full (24pin). Also, download CPU-Z (available here at TPU - Downloads section) and check your mobo ID.
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That does not confuse me.
Foxconn C51GU01
Four empty holes exist; a 20-pin male connector is connected to a 24-pin female connector on the motherboard. There is also a populated 4-pin auxiliary 12 volt ATX connector on the motherboard.
My BIOS Agent reoort is (not crossflashed):
Code:
Program: eSupport.com BIOS Agent Version 3.66
BIOS Date: 02/10/06
BIOS Type: Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS
BIOS ID: 02/10/2006-C51MCP51-6A61HFK9C
OEM Sign-On: C51GU01 series 611E3P04 021006
Chipset: AMD 1100 rev 0
Superio: ITE 8712F rev 7 found at port 2Eh
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2000 Mhz MAX: 3000 Mhz
BIOS ROM In Socket: Yes
BIOS ROM Size: 512K
Memory Installed: 1024 MB
Memory Maximum: 16384 MB
Memory Slot 01: 512 MB
Memory Slot 02: 512 MB
Memory Slot 03: 0 MB
Memory Slot 04: 0 MB
ACPI Revision: UnknownI mainly wish to compare Super I/O chips being used for the possibly crossflashable motherboards (BIOS Agent gives more accurate information than CPU-Z for the Super I/O chip).
Relevant portions of CPU-Z report (not crossflashed):
Code:
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CPU-Z version 1.40.5
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Processors Map
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 2
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0
Processors Information
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Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 2
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
Codename Manchester
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Package Socket 939
CPUID F.B.1
Extended CPUID F.2B
Brand ID 5
Core Stepping BH-E4
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 1002.2 MHz (5.0 x 200.4 MHz)
HT Link speed 1002.2 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
max FID 10.0x
VID range 1.100V - 1.400V
K8 Thermal sensor yes
K8 Revision ID 4.1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Chipset
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Northbridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100 rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 410/430 MCP rev. A2
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 200.4 MHz (CPU/5)
CAS# 3.0
RAS# to CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 11
DRAM Idle Timer 16
Command Rate 2T
Memory SPD
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DIMM #1
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Samsung (CE00000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number M3 68L6523CUS-CCC
Serial number 0601D996
Manufacturing date Week 70/Year 05
Attributes
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
EPP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
DIMM #2
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Samsung (CE00000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number M3 68L6523CUS-CCC
Serial number 0601D99D
Manufacturing date Week 70/Year 05
Attributes
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
EPP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
Monitoring
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Sensor Chip ITE IT8712
DMI
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DMI BIOS
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vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
version 6.00 PG
date 02/10/2006
DMI System Information
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manufacturer Gateway
product GT5028
version unknown
serial unknown
UUID FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF
DMI Baseboard
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vendor unknown
model C51MCP51
revision unknown
serial
DMI System Enclosure
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manufacturer unknown
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial unknown
DMI Processor
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manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
clock speed 2000.0MHz
FSB speed 200.0MHz
multiplier 10.0x
DMI Processor
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manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
clock speed 2000.0MHz
FSB speed 200.0MHz
multiplier 10.0x
DMI Memory Controller
---------------------
correction 64-bit ECC
Max module size 4096MBytes
DMI Memory Module
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designation A0
size 512MBytes (single bank)
DMI Memory Module
-----------------
designation A1
size 512MBytes (single bank)
DMI Memory Module
-----------------
designation A2
DMI Memory Module
-----------------
designation A3
DMI Port Connector
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designation PRIMARY IDE (internal)
connector On Board IDE
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation SECONDARY IDE (internal)
connector On Board IDE
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation FDD (internal)
port type 8251 FIFO Compatible
connector On Board Floppy
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation COM1 (internal)
port type Serial Port 16450
connector 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
connector DB-9 male
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation COM2 (internal)
port type Serial Port 16450
connector 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
connector DB-9 male
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation LPT1 (internal)
port type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
connector DB-25 female
connector DB-25 female
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation Keyboard (internal)
port type Keyboard Port
connector PS/2
connector PS/2
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation PS/2 Mouse (internal)
port type Mouse Port
connector PS/2
connector PS/2
DMI Port Connector
------------------
designation USB0 (external)
port type USB
DMI Extension Slot
------------------
designation PCI0
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
DMI Extension Slot
------------------
designation PCI1
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
DMI Extension Slot
------------------
designation PCI2
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
DMI Extension Slot
------------------
designation PCI3
type A5
width 32 bits
populated yes
DMI Extension Slot
------------------
designation PCI4
type A5
width 32 bits
populated yes
DMI Physical Memory Array
-------------------------
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 16384MBytes
max# of devices 4
DMI Memory Device
-----------------
designation A0
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64bits
data width 64bits
size 512MBytes
DMI Memory Device
-----------------
designation A1
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64bits
data width 64bits
size 512MBytes
DMI Memory Device
-----------------
designation A2
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64bits
data width 64bits
DMI Memory Device
-----------------
designation A3
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64bits
data width 64bitsThis Bios should unlock all your options, Winflash works just fine as long as you stick to proceedures. If you flash a Biostarr version it will lock out stock and this BIOS, then you will have to DOS flash/force flash with ISO to get out of it. The Biostarr versions of BIOS don't work that well anyways.
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/EN-US/...,6150K8MA-8KRS
Note: YES, you can install a X1800/X1900 series cards on that Mobo. Pm for details.
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/EN-US/...,6150K8MA-8KRS
Note: YES, you can install a X1800/X1900 series cards on that Mobo. Pm for details.
Which "proceedures"?
The image is with BIOS for Gateway and not a Foxconn retail BIOS, correct?Oh yeah, forgot;
Yes, thats stock BIOS, Had some Sound Hic-cups and wanted to eliminate the BIOS as a cause, Hav'nt gotten a chance to re-flash yet! The BIOS I-linked you to works just fine, My sound problems turned out to be the sound card gettin hot, It's over 100º here! My kids had turned down the exhaust fan speed, and forgot.
Yes I have added a vari-speed 90mm exhaust. Defaulted the 120mm intake to full on, 2ea 60 mm Memory fans, 1ea 40mm Northbridge fan, a cyclone pci exhaust fan behind the GPU, and the Stock X1900XTX fan running on full with the help of ATI TOOL. ALso the PSU has dual vari-speed fans on full.
NO I have the +4 mobo power connector tied back, So, I'm only using 20-pin. I was warned not to plug in the +4 as it may blow the mobo.
The standard 4 pin mobo power is required.
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Probably a very loud PC; I am reminded of my computer with two high CFM 120mm fans, an 80mm case door fan (ATX form factor), a suorthbridge fan, and a fan for an nVidia GeForce 6800. Also, your computer should not have a northbridge; AMD64 does not use a northbridge.
Where did you receive the warning?
Umm, actually The C51GU01 has both a Northbridge and a Southbridge.
Another user here on TPU.
What you have labeled as "NORTHBRIDGE" is actually an integrated GPU, the GeForce 6100.Umm, actually The C51GU01 has both a Northbridge and a Southbridge.
EDIT: When memory controller was integrated into Athlon64, FSB and Northbridge were no loger necessary; HyperTransport came into existence.
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Yes, OK. but still qualifies as commonly used terminology for basic users and overall general understanding. This board does not have a single IC chipset. Thats the main Point. So whats the proper terminolgy for the "southbridge"?
Replacement for C51GU01
The Motherboard on my Gateway GT4015E failed less than 6 months after I purchase it and it seems it has failed again, the fan comes on when you turn it on but there is no video or beeps.
I am planning to buy another mobo that uses the AMD CPU and memory, does anybody has any recomendations other than the C51GU01.
Thanks
The Motherboard on my Gateway GT4015E failed less than 6 months after I purchase it and it seems it has failed again, the fan comes on when you turn it on but there is no video or beeps.
I am planning to buy another mobo that uses the AMD CPU and memory, does anybody has any recomendations other than the C51GU01.
Thanks
I crossflashed the BIOS successfully using AwardBIOS Flash Utility V8.60H (using "awdflash /py/sn/cc/cd/cp/Wb/QI" to crossflash).
Foxconn C51GK8MA series BIOS does seem to yeild a more sluggish system withiout reinstalling Windows (I have not reisntalled Windows).
Some new other issues also exist (more about this later).
Current BIOS Agent report with C51GK8MA series BIOS:
Foxconn C51GK8MA series BIOS does seem to yeild a more sluggish system withiout reinstalling Windows (I have not reisntalled Windows).
Some new other issues also exist (more about this later).
Current BIOS Agent report with C51GK8MA series BIOS:
Code:
Program: eSupport.com BIOS Agent Version 3.66
BIOS Date: 06/28/06
BIOS Type: Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS
BIOS ID: 06/28/2006-C51GK8MA-6A61HFKDC
OEM Sign-On: C51GK8MA series 54AW1P40 06/28/06
Chipset: AMD 1100 rev 0
Superio: ITE 8712F rev 7 found at port 2Eh
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2010 Mhz MAX: 3000 Mhz
BIOS ROM In Socket: Yes
BIOS ROM Size: 512K
Memory Installed: 1024 MB
Memory Maximum: 16384 MB
Memory Slot 01: 512 MB
Memory Slot 02: 512 MB
Memory Slot 03: 0 MB
Memory Slot 04: 0 MB
ACPI Revision: Unknown
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More info needed, what CPU (socket 939?), what memory, how much. What do you use your computer for?? How much do you want(have) to spend? Do you want to go Crossfire or SLI or what???
If it uses the C51GU01 you can pretty much kiss it off. It is NOT an ATX mb, but instead a BTX layout. When I killed mine I figured I would just pop in something else. The only BTX mb I could find that was even close to economical was an Intel that only takes Intel cpu. Search for Intel 915GV P4 LGA775 BTX Motherboard and the like.
Let me know if you find anything. I still haven't been able to fix mine. The bios flashing guys I talked to said the Gateway bios cannot be flashed with a eprom burner, just via an OS.
If it uses the C51GU01 you can pretty much kiss it off. It is NOT an ATX mb, but instead a BTX layout. When I killed mine I figured I would just pop in something else. The only BTX mb I could find that was even close to economical was an Intel that only takes Intel cpu. Search for Intel 915GV P4 LGA775 BTX Motherboard and the like.
Let me know if you find anything. I still haven't been able to fix mine. The bios flashing guys I talked to said the Gateway bios cannot be flashed with a eprom burner, just via an OS.
What BIOS flashing guy's did you talk to? If you go to BIOSMAN.COM you can order a BIOS chip with your exact bios allready installed, for only $25.00. You just need to peel the sticker off the bios chip in your machine and write down the number and it's NP.
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| Processor | AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 dual-core processor 3800+; 2.0 GHz; 2000 MHz FSB; L2 cache: 512 KB x2 |
|---|---|
| Motherboard | Gateway (Foxconn) C51GU01 |
| Cooling | Heat sync; Air Duct; 120mm Duct Fan |
| Memory | 4GB 400 MHz (PC3200) DDR memory (4x OCZ Platinum 1GB) |
| Video Card(s) | Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS PCI-Express x16 |
| Storage | 2 x Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA (Perpendicular Recording) 3.0Gb/s; RAID 0 |
| Display(s) | 2 x Samsung SyncMaster 204B 20.1" LCD |
| Case | Gateway GT5058 |
| Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC653 AC'97 |
| Power Supply | Corsair HX520W 520 Watt |
| Software | MS Windows Vista Home Premium; MS Office 2007 Enterprise Edition; Mozilla Firefox |
A quick note on that. If it is a Gateway motherboard, BIOSMAN.COM will not be able to flash it unless you can provide them with the BIN file. This is because of the way Gateway packages their BIOS; they come in an executable that only creates a boot disk with an image that contains the flashing program and the BIN file. The kicker is, that the BIN file is not directly accessable even on the created boot disk.
I used BIOSMAN.COM to get a replacement chip for my C51GU01. I gave them the BIN file (I luckily made a backup of my BIOS in it's original state). They may still have the image if you have the same board.