Will A GeForce RTX 2060 be bottlenecked by a i7 2600?

[lexluthermiester]

@Felipe Toledo G Andrade
There seems to be a fair difference of opinion here. You have to decide for yourself who to listen to.

On the one hand you have some who speaking from experience are telling you that you'll be ok but that a CPU upgrade should be your next move when you're ready...
And on the other hand there are some who are saying(or implying) that your system crap.

Seems clear who should be considered voices of reason..

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Just run intensive cpu game like battlefield 5 and see if your GPU stays constant at 99% or not. If not, your cpu is bottleneck. I have 3770k and rtx 2060 super will be here today and according to some footage on youtube, even a 5ghz 3770k with rtx 2060 still bottleneck in bf5.

 

[EarthDog]

Seems clear who should be considered voices of reason..

Clear as mud. This place is friggin ridiculous sometimes... sheesh.





Both sides are right, actually. There is absolutely no doubt that a i7 2600 at 4.1 GHz will bottleneck an RTX 2060 at 1080p in some capacity on many titles. There is also no doubt the OP will be able to play most/all titles at 60 FPS with that GPU.

A bottleneck is NOT, as someone so patently false put it and others 'liked', "a severe and unacceptable restriction". A bottleneck is a slowdown from the norm if you actually take the time up to look at the meaning and not make it up. The severity of it isn't relevant to the definition. So while there still is a bottleneck (as that GPU will run faster using a modern CPU with notably higher IPC and clock speeds at 1080p) it will not affect this user much, though minimum FPS will also be lower. It's like that saying, if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, is there still sound? Clearly there is some bottleneck here, but due to the OP's use model (1080p/60Hz) he'll be fine with what it can output... it just isn't outputting all the FPS it can which does not affect this OP. But as the titles reads, yes, it will bottleneck that GPU.

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EDIT: I sure hope someone said this earlier and it didn't take 28 posts........

 

[64K]

I think you will be fine for now. Maybe start saving up for the inevitable rig upgrade eventually though.

The truth about bottlenecking is that every rig out there has a bottleneck of some sort. It might be the CPU that is limiting FPS or the GPU that is limiting FPS or using a HDD instead of a SSD or RAM or anything. Even a monitor can be a bottleneck. Maybe your rig can consistently deliver an average of 70 to 90 FPS in most games but you have a 60 Hz monitor. Well, your monitor is now the bottleneck as long as the extra FPS over 60 even matter to you.

The whole point with bottlenecks, like some have said, is does the bottleneck really affect the quality of your gaming experience to the point that you feel a need to address it?

You've already ordered the RTX 2060. When you get it see how it goes. If there is something about your present rig that is annoying you then upgrade. Chances are that you will be fine for a while.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You've already ordered the RTX 2060. When you get it see how it goes. If there is something about your present rig that is annoying you then upgrade. Chances are that you will be fine for a while.

This.

@Felipe Toledo G Andrade
Do chime in with us once you have it up and running and let us know how it goes.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Yesterday I was stressing a 3960X 4.2GHz + 980Ti combo.

While others mention 60FPS, it is not about that.

It will just stutter more. In certain situations it will drop more vs modern CPU. It depends on the game engine, but Sandy Bridge even at OC does not deliver smooth enough experience for modern games. It is okay in general.

 

[Felipe Toledo G Andrade]

Thanks everyone for the repplies, I didnt expect that much atention and advices. Thanks, I will be posting once I have it running. Will be plugging in this the weekend, and I ll try and see how it goes!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Op save up ,swap out, the quality of life improvement and performance improvement on modern platforms will definitely make you happier.

Most people aim their attention at the Cpu as a cause of bottle necking yet forget the whole platform tied to it, the OPs pciex gen 2 will loose him a negligible bit of performance as will the ddr3 he is using.
It will be fine but will be less than ideal too.

@EarthDog fully agree with you, shame you didn't join in sooner though, could have saved some confusion.

 

[jayjr1105]

Yesterday I was stressing a 3960X 4.2GHz + 980Ti combo.

While others mention 60FPS, it is not about that.

It will just stutter more. In certain situations it will drop more vs modern CPU. It depends on the game engine, but Sandy Bridge even at OC does not deliver smooth enough experience for modern games. It is okay in general.

This guy nailed it. FPS isn't everything. The 1% lows will be abysmal with a sandy bridge quad core on modern AAA titles. E sports titles and well optimized games will be fine. Look into a Ryzen 3600 or 3700X.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This guy nailed it. FPS isn't everything. The 1% lows will be abysmal with a sandy bridge quad core on modern AAA titles. E sports titles and well optimized games will be fine. Look into a Ryzen 3600 or 3700X.

Sandy Bridge is a slight step up from my platform, WestmereEP and my 1% lows are almost nonexistent. Sorry, but you are incorrect. The OP will be fine for the time being..

 

[jayjr1105]

Sandy Bridge is a slight step up from my platform, WestmereEP and my 1% lows are almost nonexistent. Sorry, but you are incorrect. The OP will be fine for the time being..

This doesn't even make sense, you don't have 1% lows?

I beg to differ...

Look at those lows compared to a modern 9700K

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Sandy Bridge is a slight step up from my platform, WestmereEP and my 1% lows are almost nonexistent. Sorry, but you are incorrect. The OP will be fine for the time being..

I think if you upgraded as many have now you would find the smoothness of frame delivery to be way better than you expect.
I came from using a 2600k and then an fx8350 to a ryzen 2600 then 3800 and it's noticeable.
The platform is old and while it can reproduce an effective experience , it definitely is not optimal.

Except at 4k where Cpu mattered zero , at 1080p on titles using dx12 the difference is massive though mittigated to some degree via vsync or some other frame locking mechanism.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This doesn't even make sense, you don't have 1% lows?

I beg to differ...

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Look at those lows compared to a modern 9700K

You can beg all you want, those minimums look alright to me. Let's see the maximums so you can finish completely destroying your own argument.

 

[jayjr1105]

You can beg all you want, those minimums look alright to me. Let's see the maximums so you can finish completely destroying your own argument.

We can argue numbers all day long but a Sandy Bridge quad core from 2011 will have significantly more stutters/frame drops paired with a 2060 (@1080P) than something like a Ryzen 3600 or 9700K. Period!

 

[Theliel]

I don't think you understand how it works, dell is not a reputable source of information as they sell locked prebuilts ; ) and it's hardly rigged and fake.

Compared to Dell, I believe you are not a reputable source of information a lot more.

How? Claiming a i7-2700 not needing an upgrade for 5-7 years?!
Yeah better keep buying weak locked low end dell systems because they last forever. Reality is that the CPU will be quite a significant bottleneck in any modern game for that matter and it will not keep up.

And what does that matter if the framerate is great? You are saying capitalist propaganda that can not be proven in all examples modern because modern aaa games have fake cpu requirements.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Compared to Dell, I believe you are not a reputable source of information a lot more.

Instead of spewing bullshit how about explain why 0.1% lows, 1% lows and average framerates these old CPUs are getting pummeled in?

And what does that matter if the framerate is great?

The framerate isn't `great` the purpose of this thread is to answer the question in the thread title and you seem to be more interested in defending old tech because you can't afford to change your CPU, and yet you can't backup your points.

We can argue numbers all day long but a Sandy Bridge quad core from 2011 will have significantly more stutters/frame drops paired with a 2060 (@1080P) than something like a Ryzen 3600 or 9700K. Period!

Guess these people are more interested in trolling and aren't figuring out old platforms are a make-do for new modern GPUs.

 

[Theliel]

Instead of spewing bullshit how about explain why 0.1% lows, 1% lows and average framerates these old CPUs are getting pummeled in?


The framerate isn't `great` the purpose of this thread is to answer the question in the thread title and you seem to be more interested in defending old tech because you can't afford to change your CPU, and yet you can't backup your points.

I rather invest in graphics used cards than in fake new cpus. Im not interested in buying new cpus for games that have fake cpu requirements. All Im trying is the help the OP not to waste his money.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I rather invest in graphics used cards than in fake new cpus. Im not interested in buying new cpus f or games that have fake cpu requirements.

Yes CPUs are fake.
Instead of spilling rubbish here, would you care to elaborate with facts? Because any modern CPU is quite a significant upgrade across the board.

Here's an actual source other than some company claiming their CPU is still good and relevant because you bought it off them ; ) this is with a 2600k however but it's quite similar.

Intel i7-2600K Revisit: 2018 Benchmarks vs. 9900K, Ryzen, & More | GamersNexus

stub The Intel i7-2600K is arguably one of the most iconic products released by Intel in the last decade, following-up the seminal Nehalem CPUs with major architectural improvements in Sandy Bridge. The 2600K was a soldered CPU with significant performance uplift over Nehalem 930s, and launched...

www.gamersnexus.net

You can beg all you want, those minimums look alright to me. Let's see the maximums so you can finish completely destroying your own argument.

Whilst they are "alright" it does mean that the CPU is only a tie-over until he can afford a platform upgrade, The issue here is that the GPU is in fact being held back quite a significant amount.

 

[Theliel]

Yes CPUs are fake.
Instead of spilling rubbish here, would you care to elaborate with facts? Because any modern CPU is quite a significant upgrade across the board.

Here's an actual source other than some company claiming their CPU is still good and relevant because you bought it off them ; ) this is with a 2600k however but it's quite similar.

Intel i7-2600K Revisit: 2018 Benchmarks vs. 9900K, Ryzen, & More | GamersNexus

stub The Intel i7-2600K is arguably one of the most iconic products released by Intel in the last decade, following-up the seminal Nehalem CPUs with major architectural improvements in Sandy Bridge. The 2600K was a soldered CPU with significant performance uplift over Nehalem 930s, and launched...

www.gamersnexus.net

Whilst they are "alright" it does mean that the CPU is only a tie-over until he can afford a platform upgrade, The issue here is that the GPU is in fact being held back quite a significant amount.

I cant believe you claim to know more than Dell. Dell is right when they say no need to upgrade a high cpu for 7 years because if the pc is used only for facebook like yours is, there really is no need. You cant actually know what I can afford because I already afforded something you can not afford and that is unlimited free time.

The benchmark site you posted I wont read because my policy is not to read capitalist fake reviews.

Dell makes pc to last long and stable. You make pc unstable with useless overclock.

Deap OP, please be assure, there is no need to waste money on a new cpu any time soon.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

if the pc is used only for facebook like yours is, there really is no need.

My PC is used for numerous things beyond your simplistic comprehension.

I cant believe you claim to know more than Dell. Dell is right when they say no need to upgrade a high cpu for 7 years

Dell is not right, Dell is a company that sells prebuilt machines. If Dell sell prebuilts and they say they'll only last a year - who would buy a dell prebuilt? Think about that.

You cant actually know what I can afford because I already afforded something you can not afford and that is unlimited free time.

So you bought an expensive CPU? Then test it to prove your flawed argument wrong or at least PROVE that an old CPU is fine instead of ranting without evidence.

 

[phanbuey]

I cant believe you claim to know more than Dell. Dell is right when they say no need to upgrade a high cpu for 7 years because if the pc is used only for facebook like yours is, there really is no need. You cant actually know what I can afford because I already afforded something you can not afford and that is unlimited free time.

The benchmark site you posted I wont read because my policy is not to read capitalist fake reviews.

So by that logic, i7 2600k is 8 years old, and by Dell's standards it would be time to upgrade, tovarish.

 

[Theliel]

So by that logic, i7 2600k is 8 years old, and by Dell's standards it would be time to upgrade, tovarish.

Yes,I love Rrrussia! 7-9 years. So not yet.

So you bought an expensive CPU?

I already bought my expensive cpu 5 years ago, I didnt mean that. I have apolicy to not waste money on new cpus and thus I dont have to ever go to work because I save 10 time more. If I would buy a 1000 euro cpu every year that would be mad.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I already bought my expensive cpu 5 years ago, I didnt mean that. I have apolicy to not waste money on new cpus and thus I dont have to ever go to work because I save 10 time more. If I would buy a 1000 euro cpu every year that would be mad.

Doesn't sound like it, after all you're still spreading misinformation, or was that 1000 euro CPU a pentium or something?

 

[EarthDog]

Yes,I love Rrrussia! 7-9 years. So not yet.


I already bought my expensive cpu 5 years ago, I didnt mean that. I have apolicy to not waste money on new cpus and thus I dont have to ever go to work because I save 10 time more. If I would buy a 1000 euro cpu every year that would be mad.

You're cute. That signature really puts things in perspective... keep it there so we know 'who is the voice of reason', please... (I'll bet money says we are thinking two dramatically different things...). The irony of not being a sheep yet you following Dell's statement is not lost, btw. In fact, I'm LOL, like literally reading it I have to admit.

Few people buy 1000 CPUs annually to keep up with gaming. That IS mad/having more money than sense. However, it is undeniable a 2600k holds things back. We've seen benchmark after benchmark proving it. If good enough is the goal. It has been met, but you damn sure are being limited by it and the game experience can suffer.

And anyway, it looks like you only have a few more months before it hits dell's arbitrary 9 year old limit. Brotha, you can buy a $300 CPU today and get more FPS increase than buying a $300 GPU using that processor at this point..........and even 3 years ago!!!!

 

[sneekypeet]

I'm gonna ask politely that you all play nice. Fair warning before thread bans are issued.