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The article in the link below is about Xeon vs EPYC and how Intel is misleading buyers with, what looks like, a partial set of benchmarks. I do not understand the distinction here when it comes to claims of false advertising.






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The article in the link below is about Xeon vs EPYC and how Intel is misleading buyers with, what looks like, a partial set of benchmarks. I do not understand the distinction here when it comes to claims of false advertising.






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Do I smell a Class action suit like what happened for AMD?

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Caught ? Nah, you can say they got caught the first time and the second and maybe the third but this is just standard behavior in plain sight at this point.

Anyway, whoever buys these things based on Intel's own benchmarks in their blog posts deserves buying an inferior product. There is so much AMD can do or anyone else for that matter, you can't educated people by force.
 

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Wait, so this whole article is because on ONE of the 25 benchmarks Intel used an outdated version of the program. However, they used the same version of the program for both Intel and AMD, so the article even admits it is a valid test.

This isn't cheating, this is called marketing and everyone does it.

Caught ? Nah, you can say they got caught the first time and the second and maybe the third but this is just standard behavior in plain sight at this point.

Anyway, whoever buys these things based on Intel's own benchmarks in their blog posts deserves buying an inferior product. There is so much AMD can do or anyone else for that matter, you can't educated people by force.

AMD does the same thing. It's just the nature of marketing and why we never trust what the company puts out about their own products and wait for actual reviews before making a decision.
 
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Wait, so this whole article is because on ONE of the 25 benchmarks Intel used an outdated version of the program. However, they used the same version of the program for both Intel and AMD, so the article even admits it is a valid test.

This isn't cheating, this is called marketing and everyone does it.
So because of ONE benchamrk its "Intel chipxxx is better than AMD chipyyyy" and thats ok for a generalization because marketing?
 
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Wait, so this whole article is because on ONE of the 25 benchmarks Intel used an outdated version of the program. However, they used the same version of the program for both Intel and AMD, so the article even admits it is a valid test.

This isn't cheating, this is called marketing and everyone does it.



AMD does the same thing. It's just the nature of marketing and why we never trust what the company puts out about their own products and wait for actual reviews before making a decision.
The report looked into one benchmark, the same standards of marketing were likely used on aspects of the others.

It is fair to say any and all companies ham up their Ware's, but that's exactly why we have review's, reporting and professionals in IT, and forums to keep people in the know.

Intel have their own defence and marketing team to downplay such things and defend their name..

A valid test is not necessarily a fair test.
 

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Ah, poor intel. They are just running scared. And with good reason. I'm a hedt platform user, and my next one will be amd. I'm sure many others feel the same way.
It's just time for some competition, and what's wrong with that?
 
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Misleading advertising for Enterprise Class servers? It's almost like these are bought by professionals in IT departments...
 

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Wait, so this whole article is because on ONE of the 25 benchmarks Intel used an outdated version of the program. However, they used the same version of the program for both Intel and AMD, so the article even admits it is a valid test.

This isn't cheating, this is called marketing and everyone does it.



AMD does the same thing. It's just the nature of marketing and why we never trust what the company puts out about their own products and wait for actual reviews before making a decision.
I guess you didn't read or didn't understand the source article then. Not only did they use an old benchmark that they knew didn't work well with the Zen 2 based Epyc CPUs, but they also tinned the systems very differently and turned off multi threading on the Epyc CPU. On top of that, they used Intel compilers, which are skewed in favour of Intel CPUs, although in all fairness, afaik AMD doesn't make its own compliers.
If this was done in one benchmark, it's likely they've tuned things in similar ways in other benchmarks. Also, considering how many ex tech journalists that work at Intel these days, you'd think someone would've been able to do a fair comparison, but I guess that's never the goal in marketing/PR.
 
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Since when deliberate lies or misleading information became marketing? What is the worst is, people defend these lies and justify them just like the big companies want. Really sad and blind times.
Using Rome chip as a baseline. Sometimes Intel has no shame whatsoever. :)
 
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AMD does the same thing. It's just the nature of marketing and why we never trust what the company puts out about their own products and wait for actual reviews before making a decision.

This isn't about AMD. Stop rationalizing BLATANT out and out cheating.
 
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Caught ? Nah, you can say they got caught the first time and the second and maybe the third but this is just standard behavior in plain sight at this point.

Anyway, whoever buys these things based on Intel's own benchmarks in their blog posts deserves buying an inferior product. There is so much AMD can do or anyone else for that matter, you can't educated people by force.

I suspect that some companies just stick with one make of CPU etc rather than doing much research on it.. I know we use Intel here at work, so I'd like to bring up AMD whenever I can :D I do believe they have the upper hand now.... I'm just eagerly awaiting the reviews for the newer CPUs from AMD... Very excited about it :)
 
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Misleading advertising for Enterprise Class servers? It's almost like these are bought by professionals in IT departments...
Yeah you'd be surprised to know the people responsible for making some of these decisions, upper management, aren't all that into IT or independent benchmarks! Then there's this ~
Intel Corporation’s dominance of the microprocessor market and its aggressive business practices may limit our ability to compete effectively.

Intel Corporation has been the market share leader for microprocessors for many years. Intel’s market share, margins and significant financial resources enable it to market its products aggressively, to target our customers and our channel partners with special incentives and to influence customers who do business with us. These aggressive activities have in the past and are likely in the future to result in lower unit sales and a lower average selling price for many of our products and adversely affect our margins and profitability.

Intel exerts substantial influence over computer manufacturers and their channels of distribution through various brand and other marketing programs. As a result of Intel’s position in the microprocessor market, Intel has been able to control x86 microprocessor and computer system standards and benchmarks and to dictate the type of products the microprocessor market requires of us. Intel also dominates the computer system platform, which includes core logic chipsets,graphics chips, networking devices (wired and wireless), non-volatile storage and other components necessary to assemble a computer system. Additionally, Intel's able to drive de facto standards and specifications for x86 microprocessors that could cause us and other companies to have delayed access to such standards.

Intel has substantially greater financial resources than we do and accordingly spends substantially greater amounts on marketing and research and development than we do. We expect Intel to maintain its market position and to continue to invest heavily in marketing, research and development, new manufacturing facilities and other technology companies. To the extent Intel manufactures a significantly larger portion of its microprocessor products using more advanced process technologies, or introduces competitive new products into the market before we do, we may be more vulnerable to Intel’s aggressive marketing and pricing strategies for microprocessor products.

As long as Intel remains in this dominant position, we may be materially adversely affected by Intel’s:

•business practices, including rebating and allocation strategies and pricing actions, designed to limit our market share and margins;

•product mix and introduction schedules;

•product bundling, marketing and merchandising strategies;

•exclusivity payments to its current and potential customers, retailers and channel partners;

•de facto control over industry standards, and heavy influence on PC manufacturers and other PC industry participants, including motherboard, memory,chipset and basic input/output system (BIOS) suppliers and software companies as well as the graphics interface for Intel platforms; and

•marketing and advertising expenditures in support of positioning the Intel brand over the brand of its original equipment manufacturer OEM customers and retailers.

Intel could also take actions that place our discrete GPUs at a competitive disadvantage, including giving one or more of our competitors in the graphics market, such as Nvidia Corporation, preferential access to its proprietary graphics interface or other useful information. Also, Intel recently announced that it is developing their own high-end discrete GPUs. Intel’s position in the microprocessor market and integrated graphics chipset market, its introduction of competitive new products, its existing relationships with top-tier OEMs, and its aggressive marketing and pricing strategies could result in lower unit sales and a lower average selling price for our products, which could have a material adverse effect on us.
 
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Since when deliberate lies or misleading information became marketing? What is the worst is, people defend these lies and justify them just like the big companies want. Really sad and blind times.
Using Rome chip as a baseline. Sometimes Intel has no shame whatsoever. :)
Since forever. Unless you're incredibly naive, you should know that marketing departments are going to use smoke and mirrors and cherry-picked scenarios to present their product in the best light possible. They will do this to the fullest extent they can get away with, often skirting the line of deceptive marketing. I'm not saying this is the way it should be; I'm saying that's the way it is.


It's just the nature of marketing and why we never trust what the company puts out about their own products and wait for actual reviews before making a decision.
Exactly. At this point, I think anyone who's been following this industry for any length of time should know to take a company's own benchmarks with a grain of salt. Again, that's not justification, but being a realist.

Also, while we're on the topic of deception, I'm sure the media outlet also spun the story to be as sensational as they could reasonably get away with.
 
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The worst thing by far is the fact that they use their own compiler and not something like GCC or Clang. It is known Intel's compiler will try to prioritize speed at all costs by default which is not something desirable most of the time. Also it's well known that it chooses worse optimizations on non Intel CPUs.

AMD does the same thing. It's just the nature of marketing

Funny how this works. I still clearly remember a while ago when we argued about how AMD named their GPUs in a misleading way and I pointed out Nvidia did the same but you were adamant that we stick to criticizing AMD. But not this time, this time it's OK because everyone does it, funny indeed.

Next thing you know they'll sell you an empty box, but I gather that will be OK because it's the nature of marketing.

And for the record, AMD doesn't do the same thing, I invite you to find a set of misleading benchmarks about their EPYC CPUs vs Intel's Xeons.
 
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Oh man, it's our boy Ryan Shrout that spearheaded this.

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unny how this works. I still clearly remember a while ago when we argued about how AMD named their GPUs in a misleading way and I pointed out Nvidia did the same but you were adamant that we stick to criticizing AMD. But not this time, this time it's OK because everyone does it, funny indeed.
hey, we're criticizing intel here.... :p
 
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You smell that? It's the smell of Intel CEO crapping there pants from being scared. Only a desperate company would do something like this, I would believe.

Shintel is in trouble and now it's second time as well. Amd gets my money this round.
 
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You smell that? It's the smell of Intel CEO crapping there pants from being scared. Only a desperate company would do something like this, I would believe.

Shintel is in trouble and now it's second time as well. Amd gets my money this round.

Intel is not in trouble I predict that with the price drop they will have a higher adoption rate than AMD in the HEDT space. If rumours are true you could build a Intel HEDT system for the cost of the 3960X.
 
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If rumours are true you could build a Intel HEDT system for the cost of the 3960X.

Sure, one that isn't nearly as fast. The 3960X is expected to outperform even the 10980XE in many cases if not all the time. Water is wet.
 
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I dont understand corporations thought process with this sort of thing. Why would you bother risking a class action lawsuit instead of just providing true numbers and not fudging them? Why give yourself a bad image and bad PR?
 
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