Apple Introduces 16-inch MacBook Pro, the World's Best Pro Notebook

[neatfeatguy]

Wife enjoys her 2016 mac book pro. She can use it to work from home and do freelance work for her graphic design job. If you ask my wife, the cost is well worth it.

Myself on the other hand, I think it's an overpriced POS. Hardware wise I could have purchased 2 quality window laptops with similar or better hardware. But, maybe I'm biased. Having work with mac computers all through middle school and high school.... those computers were flat out awful. Constant lockups and crashes. Stupid single button mice.... used those dumb green screen computers in middle school....argh!

 

[SL2]

Nothing even comes close to what it can offer.

Really? And that's not poop?

I mean, it's very impressive to get so much performance into such a tiny laptop, but "nothing even comes close"???

The XPS 15 comes close, for sure, with the only two differences being price and graphics card. It has a GTX 1650, while the MBP has a Radeon 5500M. The extra VRAM is cheap for being Apple, tho.


I'm not saying which laptop is the best tho, haven't used any of them.

 

[Frick]

Really? And that's not poop?

I mean, it's very impressive to get so much performance into such a tiny laptop, but "nothing even comes close"???

The XPS 15 comes close, for sure, with the only two differences being price and graphics card. It has a GTX 1650, while the MBP has a Radeon 5500M. The extra VRAM is cheap for being Apple, tho.
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I'm not saying which laptop is the best tho, haven't used any of them.

the qualifier was ”if you like the apple ecosystem”.

 

[gaximodo]

No thank you

 

[kings]

the qualifier was ”if you like the apple ecosystem”.

This is what many people don´t understand. For those with more Apple devices, their ecosystem is one of the best things out there.

Everything works natively, no need for setup, no third-party apps, it's a great comfort and usability the way the devices works with each other.

Apple products are far from perfect, but the truth is that many of the people who bash Apple, are the ones who have never used it. And when I say use, it's not playing with the devices for 5 minutes in a store.

 

[1d10t]

Oh great, they remove that inconvenient keyboard design.I fell like i'm typing on a chalkboard with these MacBook.

 

[SL2]

Apple products are far from perfect, but the truth is that many of the people who bash Apple, are the ones who have never used it.

Not many complains about Apples software. For me it's all about the limits I described in a previous post, mainly hardware and pricing, both which have changed a lot in the last ten years.

 

[champsilva]

Holy crap this thread turned to poop real fast. If you like the Apple eco system this laptop is a beast. Nothing even comes close to what it can offer.

I quoted a comment dude...

 

[brucechow]

Jesus.... It's a 16" laptop, it has a thick chassis with lots of space, and it's still all soldered: CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD(if you can call it that)/WiFi... Also, as with 2018 15" Macbook Pro, it's all glued and barely qualifies as serviceable. Hardly a "pro" tool. At least they reverted back to normal scissor KB after four[!!!] revisions of broken butterfly KBs.


Most early reviewers (which is ironically TheVerge and few other yuppie sources), list it at $2400 for a base config (which is still a lot for basically your average 9th gen lappy w/ low-mid-range GPU).
And RX5500... so no CUDA.
The only thing Apple brags about a lot, is that it no longer thermal throttles, and can run the H-variant chip at its full potential. Basically, expecting a pat on a back for fixing their own f#$%-up.

Read what I wrote. The average user wont open their macbook air, they dont even have the tools required for it. So which part of my reply didnt you get that the average user doesnt care about what people like YOU care? And thats why they sell a lot.

I really hate to read comments like these. It's people like you creating this false idea of Mac = effortless, PC = horror. Just like the thought that Mac has no viruses.
You're comparing a custom made computer (build by who?) to a ready to boot laptop. It's like my customers who I get in my shop that compare their old 450 Euro laptop to a new > 1200 Euro Macbook and say how much better the Mac is. I don't know if you know but laptops from all major brands get automatic driver and bios updates. Just like a Mac and also get no BSOD. If you get BSODs then something is broken.
If you want to dare yourself to a custom built PC then you need a good shop (like mine that has 23 years experience) and not a POS webshop that has 17 year olds building the machines.
When I compare the innards of a super high-end HP or Lenovo to an Apple, it really makes me laugh. These fake 'pro' machines are laughable but people keep falling for it so Apple keeps going, no matter how many times they keep failing (keyboard), over (motherboard) and over (just plain bad assembly). When I open a laptop and see glue, I just want to throw it in the trash (only Apple uses glue btw).
Check out Louis Rossmann's YouTube channel as a good source for the quality of the motherboard.

Do you own any macbook AND laptop OR desktop for almost 10 years? Which one required a clean install for whatever reason? Which one required more work for it to get going?

I have a friend that owns a rog laptop, and it has BSOD and driver problem all the time, also he wanted to upgrade his stuff, but he cant. But I bet you will say that asus is shit like apple, and some "INSERT BRAND" is better and doesnt have issues.

To those two guys I quoted, stop being irrational and brainless apple hater. Every product is meant for something and someone. Its like saying all blond people are ugly just because you prefer latin ones. Theres someone somewhere that likes blond people.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

3072x1920, is that 16:10 aspect ratio?

Yes, it is 8:5.

 

[silentbogo]

average user doesnt care about what people like YOU care

And I don't really care what an average person thinks. Broken laptops(including macbooks) still make their way to my workshop sooner or later.

 

[MrMilli]

Do you own any macbook AND laptop OR desktop for almost 10 years? Which one required a clean install for whatever reason? Which one required more work for it to get going?

I have a friend that owns a rog laptop, and it has BSOD and driver problem all the time, also he wanted to upgrade his stuff, but he cant. But I bet you will say that asus is shit like apple, and some "INSERT BRAND" is better and doesnt have issues.

Considering I have a shop, I get them often. Yeah.
Well, if that ROG laptop is getting BSODs then something is probably broken. And yes, you can upgrade the RAM, SSD and HDD.
No, I won't say bad words about Asus. What I will say is that buying a gaming laptop is just stupid. They all brake eventually. You need a desktop computer for gaming.

I also maintain multiple offices with dozens of Windows 10 machines each. None have had BSOD in years, nor did I have to fresh install any of them. Ever, and I'm serious.

 

[SL2]

To those two guys I quoted, stop being irrational and brainless apple hater.

So why should we listen to you? Are you calling yourself rational after insulting them like that?

 

[ypsylon]

This is what many people don´t understand. For those with more Apple devices, their ecosystem is one of the best things out there.

Everything works natively, no need for setup, no third-party apps, it's a great comfort and usability the way the devices works with each other.

Apple products are far from perfect, but the truth is that many of the people who bash Apple, are the ones who have never used it. And when I say use, it's not playing with the devices for 5 minutes in a store.

Amen to that. Not an Apple fan. My first ecosystem is Windows first and foremost simply because of CUDA rendering and general openness of the PC standard. On the other side, MacOS in overwhelming majority of things trounces Windows. Any version. Me personally don't have many Apple devices, but I can really testify - it just works. I said numerous times that if Apple finally decided to stop behaving like spoiled brat and bring back nVidia support for real 3D work I would abandon Windows in a jiffy - leaving it only for gaming.

On paper new 16" looks really nice. Have to wait for some in-depth reviews, thermals and opinions.