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AMD RX 5600 XT Poised to Offer Vega 56-like Performance, Possible Specs Rumored

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AMD's upcoming RX 5600 XT will bring about a much needed power increase over the current baseline RX 5500 series, slotting smoothly between it and the mainstream, high-performance RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT. New benchmarks spotted by Videocardz place AMD's upcoming graphics card (which could feature a 6 GB VRAM with higher capacities likely to be offered as well) some 35% ahead of the RX 5500, as well as on the overall performance level of AMD's RX Vega 56. That AMD card debuted at $399 and now has performance 8% to 15% higher than NVIDIA's current GTX 1660 SUPER, exactly where AMD would want the RX 5600 XT's performance to land.

Other details come courtesy of another publication, where Igor Wallosseck over at Igor's Lab says that AMD could be looking at harvesting the Navi 10 dies that power the company's RX 5700 XT and RX 5700 by disabling one of four Asynchronous Compute Engines (ACEs). These four ACEs are found two each on one of Navi's Shader Engines (SEs), and disabling one ACE and subordinate hardware from the full Navi 10's 40 RDNA Units, 2,560 Stream Processors (SPs), 160 texture mapping units (TMUs) and 64 render output units (ROPs) would make up for an RX 5600 XT with 30 RDNA CUs, 1,920 SPs, 120 TMUs, 48 ROPs and expected 3 MB of L2 cache. AMD could be looking to position the AMD RX 5600 XT in the $249 price range, since top tier RX 5500 XT tend to go for $200.



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IF the price is correct then yeah, it'll be a solid card. GTX 1660 Super pricing for 12-15% more performance.
Basically something 5700 series brought to the table against 2060/Super/2070, and something 5500XT completely lacks.
 
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IF the price is correct then yeah, it'll be a solid card. GTX 1660 Super pricing for 12-15% more performance.
Basically something 5700 series brought to the table against 2060/Super/2070, and something 5500XT completely lacks.
RX 5500 XT 8GB AIB is GTX 1660 Super pricing.
I'm afraid the RX 5600 XT will suffer the same fate, and with RX 5700 models creeping 299$ price point, there isn't much it can do
 
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If these are $249.........they finally got pricing right (assuming it beats the 1660 Super). I have a feeling these will cost more than than 1660 Supers though... just like the 5500 does over the 1650 super. :(
 
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People will still buy 1660 Super just like they're buying RTX 2060s, 2060 Supers.
 
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I wish I could say I was optimistic, but AMD just isn't putting forth a decent effort in the consumer GPU segment right now. The 5500XT is a gigantic disappointment that hit a price point at least $50 too high for its numbers all around. Feeling like this will be a similar situation, something AMD could really make a difference in that market segment with, but doesn't/won't.
 
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People will still buy 1660 Super just like they're buying RTX 2060s, 2060 Supers.

Yeah, that's why all the board partners are building 5700 xt's because no one buys them:/:shadedshu:
 
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While I understand everyone`s sentiment about AMD GPUs being too expensive at launch. We should keep in mind that AMD does drop prices after about 3 months of all of their components. There is also the fact that we get more free games from them than Nvidia usually.
 
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IF the price is correct then yeah, it'll be a solid card. GTX 1660 Super pricing for 12-15% more performance.
Basically something 5700 series brought to the table against 2060/Super/2070, and something 5500XT completely lacks.
Whenever I see the pricing of 5500XT, it seems to me that AMD is clearing out Polaris stock.
 
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5600 XT looks like solid value if this is the case. AMD probably should've just cancelled the 5500 cards if Polaris stock was so high and go straight to next gen 6500 cards for ultra low end parts.
 
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Yeah, that's why all the board partners are building 5700 xt's because no one buys them:/:shadedshu:
Notice how even you didn't mention 5700 non-XT?

5700 xt is a fantastic card. But it's like non XT doesn't exist. I spebd a lot of my free time on various hardware subreddits. In terms of popularity 5700 xt > 2070 super > 2060 super > 2060 > 5700
5700 is also a fantastic card imo but I just don't see it around very much.
 
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The 5500 series likely exists now for OEM partners, like Apple, to go into mobile/desktop products with better efficiency. AMD is also probably fine to price them higher so they can clear Polaris out. The 760/580/590 are still the lower-cost solution if you are willing to pay the power premium.

I certainly welcome the 5600 line. It should be a solid mid-range card, and I suspect this will eventually be a ~$200 card once Polaris is completely gone, and the 5500 line will then take the $150-175 space.
 
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My Vega 56 with very basic tuning involving only reduced voltage and increased memory clock performs on par with a 5700.
 
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My Vega 56 with very basic tuning involving only reduced voltage and increased memory clock performs on par with a 5700.
But how many people can do that?
For OEMs AMD needed Navi. They'll keep desktop parts cost high till polaris stock remains.
 
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But how many people can do that?
<<< I don't. I couldn't be bothered. It's not that I don't know how to do it (I am posting on TPU after all), I simply don't want to spend the few minutes to do it. lol I just use Chill to keep it from going full throttle in games the whole time and that's plenty.
 
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<<< I don't. I couldn't be bothered. It's not that I don't know how to do it (I am posting on TPU after all), I simply don't want to spend the few minutes to do it. lol I just use Chill to keep it from going full throttle in games the whole time and that's plenty.

If you use the Auto-Undervolt setting which in my experience get pretty close to the optimum settings it's 6 clicks of the mouse from a blank desktop. If thats too much tuning you should probably just buy an Nvidia card.
 

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This 5600 XT is going to have a hard time slotting in-between the 5500 XT and the 5700 with the current pricing. They should've set the ceiling of the 5500XT to $170 so they can place this 5600 XT at $200 to $250, especially with 5700s coming down to $320.

EDIT: 5700 non-XT currently $300 at Best Buy for XFX's DD Ultra variant.
 
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If you use the Auto-Undervolt setting which in my experience get pretty close to the optimum settings it's 6 clicks of the mouse from a blank desktop. If thats too much tuning you should probably just buy an Nvidia card.
What? How does not wanting to undervolt and deal with any possible system instability lead to buying a different graphics card? What kind of incongruent nonsense is that?

Here's the thing, I don't have any complaints for Vega 56. The Red Dragon already runs cool and is incredibly quiet. I don't overclock anymore and I haven't in years. There's very little reason to deal with the possible headaches that could come from it. Give me great performance out of the box and I'm happy, and that's what this card does (also what my 3700X does).
 
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This card interests me. I want a good card <$250 with enough bandwidth for some moderate 4k gaming. My RX570 just gets overwhelmed in many titles...but I'll be damned if I shell out $300 for an RX5700.
 

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Notice how even you didn't mention 5700 non-XT?

5700 xt is a fantastic card. But it's like non XT doesn't exist. I spebd a lot of my free time on various hardware subreddits. In terms of popularity 5700 xt > 2070 super > 2060 super > 2060 > 5700
5700 is also a fantastic card imo but I just don't see it around very much.

Because most dont know how to unlock them correctly.
 

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My Vega 56 with very basic tuning involving only reduced voltage and increased memory clock performs on par with a 5700.
If you use the Auto-Undervolt setting which in my experience get pretty close to the optimum settings it's 6 clicks of the mouse from a blank desktop. If thats too much tuning you should probably just buy an Nvidia card.

The same can be said for Nvidia cards, there is a relatively big scene for undervolt/overclock using the GPU boost curve editor, it's quite simple. AMD got the spotlight in this specific arena because Vega used SO much power the gains in efficiency were bigger from undervolting, but you can increase performance and make efficent old Pascal even better perf/watt too, which I do with my 3.5 year old GTX1080

I've not got high hopes for this 5600 series unless the 5500XT price drops, it's too small a space to fit it into. AMD is really stuck here, the 5500XT likely needs to cost what it does (for now) or they don't make enough off it for it to be viable in their lineup. Meanwhile Polaris just wont die.

Then you take all of this and consider were likely ~6 months from Nvidia launching Ampere products, AMD need to try and get ahead of the play instead of constantly playing catch up with yesteryear's products. Looks like their bread and butter will continue to be in consoles and their massive leaps in the CPU space for the time being.
 
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The same can be said for Nvidia cards, there is a relatively big scene for undervolt/overclock using the GPU boost curve editor, it's quite simple. AMD got the spotlight in this specific arena because Vega used SO much power the gains in efficiency were bigger from undervolting, but you can increase performance and make efficent old Pascal even better perf/watt too, which I do with my 3.5 year old GTX1080

I've not got high hopes for this 5600 series unless the 5500XT price drops, it's too small a space to fit it into. AMD is really stuck here, the 5500XT likely needs to cost what it does (for now) or they don't make enough off it for it to be viable in their lineup. Meanwhile Polaris just wont die.

Then you take all of this and consider were likely ~6 months from Nvidia launching Ampere products, AMD need to try and get ahead of the play instead of constantly playing catch up with yesteryear's products. Looks like their bread and butter will continue to be in consoles and their massive leaps in the CPU space for the time being.

I believe the pricing on the 5500 series will be reduced.
 
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