Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT Pulse

64K · Jan 21, 2020

Xaled said:
The cheapest rtx 2060 which is newly released Evga KO is selling at 320 at newegg

You can get an EVGA 260 KO at Microcenter for $300 if you live near one or $310 at Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083GH7LXW?ascsubtag=s15741871268966ef9a52439&tag=52439_iceleadscom-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

Sithaer · Jan 21, 2020

Durvelle27 said:
Good luck using RT on the 2060 on decent settings

Pretty much.
RT with a 2060 is just not a selling point to me with 2560x1080 res.
Yea I rather not pay for a techdemo level kind of thing and stuff like Quake 2 RTX fooling around.

Xaled · Jan 21, 2020

bug said:
3-4% faster and no RT. Funny definition of "better" you have there.

The cards are basically interchangeable, only you could have bought the 2060 a year ago.

Yeah it is pointless to pay 320$ for a card that was 350$ a year ago

64K said:
You can get an EVGA 260 KO at Microcenter for $300 if you live near one or $310 at Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083GH7LXW?ascsubtag=s15741871268966ef9a52439&tag=52439_iceleadscom-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

Funny, I changed the language in Amazon and it went from 320 to 310$

$ReaPeR$ · Jan 21, 2020

Assimilator said:
According to who? You and every other armchair "expert" who thinks they should be entitled to set GPU prices because reasons?

you are right. instead, we should listen to you and every other armchair "expert" who think they should be entitled to set gpu prices because reasons.

btw, the fact that you, a consumer, argue against cheaper gpu prices... boggles the mind.

jesdals · Jan 21, 2020

$ReaPeR$ said:
at which site?

Proshop

Jinxed · Jan 21, 2020

radeon 5600xt:

Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 2.1%.

geforce rtx2060:

Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 7.8%.

so once again, AMD went to the very limit of the chip, just to be even remotely competitive. this was definitely not a planned action on AMD's side. it also means that the real cards from retailers are going to be boosting much less, resulting in less performance. all this on the "uber" 7nm process, competing with an architecture on 12nm that's soon going to be 2 years old. poor navi

Keullo-e · Jan 21, 2020

The overclocking is limited by software so it wouldn't cannibalize RX 5700.

Jinxed · Jan 21, 2020

Chloe Price said:
The overclocking is limited by software so it wouldn't cannibalize RX 5700.

suuuuuure ..

Keullo-e · Jan 21, 2020

Jinxed said:
suuuuuure ..

Did you even read the review?

I suspect the chips could go even higher, but for some reason, AMD chooses to artificially limit overclocking potential of their cards. GPU overclocking also maxxed out the slider range, it seems that the overclocking limits were not extended with the new BIOS.

Sithaer · Jan 21, 2020

Not everyone cares about OC-ing either,I only use my Hardware at stock/out of box settings so thats all that matters to me. 'I'm forced to undervolt my RX 570 so thats a diff story'

64K · Jan 21, 2020

Jinxed said:
radeon 5600xt:

geforce rtx2060:

so once again, AMD went to the very limit of the chip, just to be even remotely competitive. this was definitely not a planned action on AMD's side. it also means that the real cards from retailers are going to be boosting much less, resulting in less performance. all this on the "uber" 7nm process, competing with an architecture on 12nm that's soon going to be 2 years old. poor navi

Damn! That is pitiful overclocking. I missed that earlier. Good point.

Jinxed · Jan 21, 2020

Chloe Price said:
Did you even read the review?

so why do you think the overclocking limits were not extended with the bios update? because there is no more oc potential. look at all the reviews of rx5700 and rx5700xt here. all but the most exclusive bins are just 2-3% max oc potential.

so, with your logic, if 5600xt is artificially limited to not canibalize on 5700, then 5700 is artificially limited not to canibalize on 5700xt, and the 5700xt is artificially limited not to canibalize on .. oh wait

or are you saying AMD does not want to canibalize the sales of rtx 2070/2070 super?

Keullo-e · Jan 21, 2020

Jinxed said:
so why do you think the overclocking limits were not extended with the bios update? because there is no more oc potential. look at all the reviews of rx5700 and rx5700xt here. all but the most exclusive bins are just 2-3% max oc potential.

so, with your logic, if 5600xt is artificially limited to not canibalize on 5700, then 5700 is artificially limited not to canibalize on 5700xt, and the 5700xt is artificially limited not to canibalize on .. oh wait

or are you saying AMD does not want to canibalize the sales of rtx 2070/2070 super?

I can't understand what the hell you're trying to say?

But what a coincidence that all the cards OC to the max allowed without problems :rolleyes:

Assimilator · Jan 21, 2020

$ReaPeR$ said:
you are right. instead, we should listen to you and every other armchair "expert" who think they should be entitled to set gpu prices because reasons.
btw, the fact that you, a consumer, argue against cheaper gpu prices... boggles the mind.

Please show me where I'm arguing against higher prices. I'll wait.

Jinxed · Jan 21, 2020

Chloe Price said:
I can't understand what the hell you're trying to say?

But what a coincidence that all the cards OC to the max allowed without problems

are they? and i assume you're talking about review samples?

W1zzard · Jan 21, 2020

Jinxed said:
because there is no more oc potential

there is definitely more than what the slider allows. whether that is 10 mhz or 100 mhz i don't know, but it's not cool to limit people like that

bug · Jan 21, 2020

W1zzard said:
there is definitely more than what the slider allows. whether that is 10 mhz or 100 mhz i don't know, but it's not cool to limit people like that

The slider was put in place before the new BIOS, so it may have looked like it offered plenty of legroom at the time.
It's AMD after all, you want drivers, come back in 6 months or so

Jinxed · Jan 21, 2020

W1zzard said:
there is definitely more than what the slider allows. whether that is 10 mhz or 100 mhz i don't know, but it's not cool to limit people like that

if there's more headroom, why is this the same tiny one for pretty much all the recent radeons? going through your reviews, the oc for radeons is by a quick check ~3% throughout their stack, while nvidia is more like 7-8% or even more?

W1zzard · Jan 21, 2020

bug said:
so it may have looked like it offered plenty of legroom at the time.

With the old BIOS (which has lower voltage), the stability limit was roughly where the OC cards are running now by default, that's why voltage has been bumped by +0.1V

Sir Alex Ice · Jan 21, 2020

RTX2060 was launched a year or so ago, right? AMD is barely matching nvidia's product from a year ago.
They're a bit late to the party.

Xaled · Jan 21, 2020

Jinxed said:
radeon 5600xt:

geforce rtx2060:

so once again, AMD went to the very limit of the chip, just to be even remotely competitive. this was definitely not a planned action on AMD's side. it also means that the real cards from retailers are going to be boosting much less, resulting in less performance. all this on the "uber" 7nm process, competing with an architecture on 12nm that's soon going to be 2 years old. poor navi

Poor 2060 owner, you must be feeling bad now.
I feel great because I were almost buying a 2060, now I'll wait a little more and get a 2070 or even 2070s as their prices would decrease in the end no matter what

Nihilus · Jan 21, 2020

Well if Nvidia gets more RTX 2060 cards out for $300 or less, the new 5600xt will be a tough sell.

-Better o/c with the 2060 now that AMD blew their load on the factory oc

-more features like DLSS along with CUDA which my video software happens to use

-6 GB of Nvidia vram = 8 GB of AMD vram
ok, exaggerating just a little, but nvidia still has the better memory compression. Could be useful for ultra textures down the road.

bobalazs · Jan 21, 2020

I'm sorry but i don't care about price wars when in the end, the shops in my nations decide the end price, and they are usually 25% higher than MSRP+ VAT (a measly 27%) LMAO

cucker tarlson · Jan 21, 2020

rtx 2060 gaming 109.3/96=1.14x stock 2060

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5600xt pulse 102,1/98=1.04x of stock 2060