• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD 5th Gen Ryzen Desktop Possibly Codenamed "Warhol"

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
46,283 (7.69/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Earlier this week, we brought you a report about codenames of AMD processors that won't launch before 2022. It referenced "Raphael" being distant 5 nm "Zen 4" based successor to today's "Matisse." At the time, the codename for the 2021 release of AMD's mainstream desktop processor wasn't known. We're now getting a pointer as to what it is - "Warhol."

Named after American artist and filmmaker Andy Warhol, this processor combines CPU chiplets based on the "Zen 3" with a cIOD that retains PCI-Express gen 4.0, just like "Vermeer," but still qualifies as a new generation (and not a refresh). What's more, "Warhol" apparently sticks to a 7 nm-class silicon fabrication process. This means that "Warhol" could see AMD innovate on other fronts, such as leveraging an even more advanced version of TSMC's 7 nm node (such as N7+), to increase core counts over the chiplet that makes it to "Vermeer, "Genesis Peak," and "Milan."



View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Messages
250 (0.17/day)
Location
Texas U.S.A
System Name Satan
Processor AMD 2700x with EK waterblock
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Pro
Cooling Custom open loop watercooled
Memory 16 GB Corsair Vengance RGB Pro @ 3466 Mhz
Video Card(s) Powercolor 5700 xt with EK full cover block
Storage Intel 660p 512 GB nvme Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB for storage SATA
Display(s) Viotek 32" curved 144 Hz 1440 P
Case Thermaltake Tower 900
Audio Device(s) Realtek onboard
Power Supply Corsair Rmx 750
Mouse Logitech G 602 wireless
Keyboard Corsair K68
Software Windows 10 Pro
Horrible name TBH.....What "beatnick" wasn't available ?
 
Joined
Jul 11, 2015
Messages
617 (0.19/day)
System Name Harm's Rig's
Processor 5950X /2700x / AMD 8370e 4500
Motherboard ASUS DARK HERO / ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
Cooling Enermax LIQMAX III ARGB 360 AIO/ Zalman cooler fan 110mm
Memory Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (4x 8GB) 4000M TRIDENT Z F-43600V15D-16GTZ /G.SKILL DDR4
Video Card(s) ZOTAC AMP EXTREME AIRO 4090 / 1080 Ti /290X CFX
Storage SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB/ WD DARK 770 2TB , Sabrent NVMe 512GB / 1 SSD 250GB / 1 HHD 3 TB
Display(s) Thermal Grizzly WireView / TCL 646 55 TV / 50 Xfinity Hisense A6 XUMO TV
Case TT 37 VIEW 200MM'S/ NZXT Tempest custom
Audio Device(s) Sharp Aquos
Power Supply FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum - EVGA 1300G2/Corsair w750
Mouse G502
Keyboard G413
15 Mins of fame, Torso :roll:
 
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Messages
2,603 (0.69/day)
Location
Alabama
Processor Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard X470 Tachi Ultimate
Cooling Scythe Big Shuriken 3
Memory C.R.S.
Video Card(s) Radeon VII
Software Win 7
Benchmark Scores Never high enough
I guess eventually we'll have one called "Campbell"........
 
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
4,323 (1.51/day)
Location
Currently Norway
System Name Bro2
Processor Ryzen 5800X
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling Corsair h115i pro rgb
Memory 16GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14 @3800Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil 1.1v@2400Mhz
Storage M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD69 UHD / LG 27GN950
Case Fractal Design G
Audio Device(s) Realtec 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic 750W GOLD
Mouse Logitech G402
Keyboard Logitech slim
Software Windows 10 64 bit
Maybe this is a diversion of some sort. Show one hand but not the other.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
20,780 (5.97/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V
Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370
Cooling beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Fractal Design Define R5
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse XTRFY M42
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W10 x64
Joined
Jun 26, 2007
Messages
2,167 (0.35/day)
Location
Darkness
System Name Unreal Machine IV
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Motherboard Asrock 570X Taichi
Cooling Noctua U9S
Memory Team UD4-4000 @4000 CL18 1:1
Video Card(s) 5600XT Red Devil
Storage Kingston SSD 240GB + WD RED 4TB + WD Blue SN 550 Nvme 1TB X3
Display(s) DELL U2417H
Case Old school Termalthake xaser III black with lots of noctua 80mm fans
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion + Creative Inspire t7900 7.1 + Sony MDR-1A + AKG K-240
Power Supply Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse Logitech G502 hero SE
Keyboard Logitech
Software 10 pro
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 Multi ~15k 4.4Ghz all core Cinebench R23 single 1.5k 4.65Ghz
Intell should be naming their current series chernobyl, since they can cause a reactor meltdown if you overvolt them...
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
296 (0.06/day)
System Name Gaming PC/ EDU PC/ HFS PC
Processor Intel i9-9900KF/ Dual Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard Asrock Z390 Taichi Ultimate/ Dual Asrock X370 Proffesional Gaming
Cooling Noctua NH-C14S/ Arctic Xtreme Freezer/ Ryzen Wraith Prysm RGB
Memory 64GB Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200/ 32GB Corsair Dominator 3000/ 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra / MSI RTX 2080Ti Ventus / EVGA GTX 1060 SC Gaming
Storage Dual 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 6Tb 860 EVO/ 960 EVO 500GB + 18Tb R0/ 840EVO 250Gb + 16Tb R0
Display(s) Samsung 32" U32R590 Curved 3480x2160 / Samsung 32" LC32H711 Curved 2560x1440 Freesync
Case Cooler Master Stacker 830 NV Edition/ Dual Cooler Master 690 Advance II
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 SBX/ Creative X-Fi Titanium Pci-E/ On-board Realtek
Power Supply Triple Corsair Platinum HX850i
Mouse Logitech G7 WL / Logitech G903 Lightspeed / MS BT 8000
Keyboard Dual Logitech G19s
Software Win10 Pro
well, for 2022 we were expecting entirely new cpu's and sockets from amd, which will support ddr5 and next gen pci-e, but as i doubted in that before, it is rightful to think this will be several years to come to the mainstream though..... so no any major update next few years on the platforms, except graphics card only...
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
13,210 (3.83/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Black Box
Processor Intel Xeon E3-1260L v5
Motherboard MSI E3 KRAIT Gaming v5
Cooling Tt tower + 120mm Tt fan
Memory G.Skill 16GB 3600 C18
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 970 Mini
Storage Kingston A2000 512Gb NVME
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Case Corsair 450D High Air Flow.
Audio Device(s) No need.
Power Supply FSP Aurum 650W
Mouse Yes
Keyboard Of course
Software W10 Pro 64 bit
From brilliant artists, to Andy Warhol, I suppose they may as well name the next in line, Rolf Harris.
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2019
Messages
9,726 (5.12/day)
Location
Midlands, UK
System Name Nebulon-B Mk. 4
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock 4
Memory 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance EXPO DDR5-6000
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 7800 XT
Storage 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5"
Display(s) Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen
Case Kolink Citadel Mesh black
Power Supply Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech G413 SE
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 single-core: 1,800, multi-core: 18,000. Superposition 1080p Extreme: 9,900.
Name one "Cobain", and I'll be the first buyer! :D

Jokes aside, why are codenames so important nowadays that they deserve complete news articles? I mean, who cares if my CPU is codenamed "cr@p" if it runs everything brilliantly?
 
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
397 (0.08/day)
Location
Germany (Euregio)
Processor Ryzen 5600X
Video Card(s) RTX 3050
Software Win11
only this cooler seems legit enough to cool Warhol
 
Joined
Dec 10, 2015
Messages
545 (0.18/day)
Location
Here
System Name Skypas
Processor Intel Core i7-6700
Motherboard Asus H170 Pro Gaming
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212X Turbo
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB + WD Blue 1TB
Display(s) LG 22EA63V
Case Corsair Carbide 400Q
Power Supply Seasonic SS-460FL2 w/ Deepcool XFan 120
Mouse Logitech B100
Keyboard Corsair Vengeance K70
Software Windows 10 Pro (to be replaced by 2025)
If it was Intel subsequent code names would be Ashol, Bunghol, Cornhol etc
 
Joined
Mar 21, 2016
Messages
2,195 (0.75/day)
I suspect we could end up seeing 5nm on select AM4 motherboards x570 and B550. I'm thinking AMD could shrink both the CCX chiplets and the I/O die to 5nm and offer DDR5 support on a new motherboard x670 along with using the 5nm CCX's on x570/B550 to squeeze in more cores. That satisfy pretty much everyone I believe. AMD could reuse the I/O die for whatever socket puts the nail in the coffin of AM4.

This is a interesting APU, but SFF designed a quad channel LPDDR APU would be really cool along with some M.2 slots probably quad one per memory channel. It'll be grand when AMD can eek out 4 GPU CCX's and 4 CPU CCX's along with a I/O in the middle of them all. I'm not sure if 5nm will be small enough a shrink to reach that point yet, but we're getting closer at least possibly by 3nm.
 
Joined
Jun 26, 2007
Messages
2,167 (0.35/day)
Location
Darkness
System Name Unreal Machine IV
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Motherboard Asrock 570X Taichi
Cooling Noctua U9S
Memory Team UD4-4000 @4000 CL18 1:1
Video Card(s) 5600XT Red Devil
Storage Kingston SSD 240GB + WD RED 4TB + WD Blue SN 550 Nvme 1TB X3
Display(s) DELL U2417H
Case Old school Termalthake xaser III black with lots of noctua 80mm fans
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion + Creative Inspire t7900 7.1 + Sony MDR-1A + AKG K-240
Power Supply Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse Logitech G502 hero SE
Keyboard Logitech
Software 10 pro
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 Multi ~15k 4.4Ghz all core Cinebench R23 single 1.5k 4.65Ghz
I suspect we could end up seeing 5nm on select AM4 motherboards x570 and B550. I'm thinking AMD could shrink both the CCX chiplets and the I/O die to 5nm and offer DDR5 support on a new motherboard x670 along with using the 5nm CCX's on x570/B550 to squeeze in more cores. That satisfy pretty much everyone I believe. AMD could reuse the I/O die for whatever socket puts the nail in the coffin of AM4.

This is a interesting APU, but SFF designed a quad channel LPDDR APU would be really cool along with some M.2 slots probably quad one per memory channel. It'll be grand when AMD can eek out 4 GPU CCX's and 4 CPU CCX's along with a I/O in the middle of them all. I'm not sure if 5nm will be small enough a shrink to reach that point yet, but we're getting closer at least possibly by 3nm.

What about a X670 AM5 with socket compatibility for AM4 cpus but make Zen 3 AM4 anyway?
Is it asking to much of AMD rofl?
They could have it support Zen 3 and forward...
They can do the I/O on 7nm and save allocation space for the CCX's, X670 will also ofc be on 7nm as well...
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (3.05/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
Is zen 3 confirmed 7nm,7 euv or 5nm?
 
Joined
Mar 21, 2016
Messages
2,195 (0.75/day)
What about a X670 AM5 with socket compatibility for AM4 cpus but make Zen 3 AM4 anyway?
Is it asking to much of AMD rofl?
They could have it support Zen 3 and forward...
They can do the I/O on 7nm and save allocation space for the CCX's, X670 will also ofc be on 7nm as well...
The move to AM5 would be more about additional CPU pins to work with to help control voltages and such which could help with efficiency or allow higher TDP CPU's and/or higher core count ones. I think AMD will eventually replaced AM4, but I do think there is a strong chance we'll still see up to 5nm and/or any 5nm++ type of general refinement of the same node size kind of thing though I doubt they'll take it to the extreme's of 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ like Intel no one wants that to happen in perticular especially given Intel's also pushed new chipset after new chipset after new chipet after new chipset at the same node size. It seems like I may have been correct about 5nm potentially judging from TechPowerUp's latest article. about Ryzen 4000 "Vermeer", but it was pure speculation based on TSMC's reporting of 5nm transition going smoothly and it not being far off from the refined 7nm process in the first place. It just seems entirely tangible for AMD to take that approach because the wafer allows for more chips and smaller chips that are more power efficient and can also scale higher.

Right now with AMD in a fairly generally recognizable commanding lead at present it seems like a smart move for AMD to put a even larger strain on Intel and capitalize on it's lead further were they can command a even larger price premium and at the same time get customers on their platform ecosystem that could upgrade later. They might get a more entry level chip initially and purchases a higher end chip down the road in certain cases. Also perhaps the new console APU's are based on 5nm as well or will start at 7nm and will get shrunk down to 5nm quickly after in a refresh.

I was thinking more for Ryzen 5000 series at 5nm, but Ryzen 4000 series potentially being 5nm is a bit of a surprise if AMD decided to delay it a little way further for more convincing node shrink. Now I don't know what will happen with the Ryzen 5000 series though I defiantly think cross compatibility of DDR4 and DDR5 might be on the table and come down to a selection of the I/O die matted to the CPU SKU itself within the same socket perhaps that'll be the x670 socket since it seems Ryzen 4000 series is already supported by x570. To me that seems like the probable thing with the latest unconfirmed news rumor circulating about Vermeer. If Ryzen 4000 series is for example 7 EUV I suspect the Ryzen 5000 series ends up being 5nm (5NP) by the time it arrives to give it a little more oomph.
 
Top