X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[dalekdukesboy]

I thought that's how it worked ??

Everything I look for seems to be completely over the top priced! That said, when you do or can find something, it's great to try and find it

I got my present/last 1680 for around 200 bucks US dollars so I'll keep an eye out for you unless something's changed it shouldn't be all that much dough.

 

[Caring1]

does anyone have experience getting a 1680 v2 running on any of the Asrock X79 Extreme boards? i had to send the 1680 i bought back since i couldn't get it working on my extreme4-m, but i have no idea if it was something with my setup, or if it was the chip itself (which seems unlikely to me).

the chip is not officially supported by Asrock for that board, on their list of CPUs, but i have seen at least one person elsewhere online saying they got it working on an Extreme board (can't remember the number). i should *think* it would work in any lga 2011 board?

Try a e5-2680 V2.
The 1680 V2 is a 130W TDP unit and the -m board might not cope with that CPU.
My experience is with an ATX Extreme 11 and I had no issues with the 2680 V2.

 

[MisterE]

Try a e5-2680 V2.
The 1680 V2 is a 130W TDP unit and the -m board might not cope with that CPU.
My experience is with an ATX Extreme 11 and I had no issues with the 2680 V2.

i'm running the 4930K which is also 130W, and it looks like every i7 cpu for lga2011 is 130W at least.
also, isn't the reason people are going to the 1680v2 is because the 1xxx xeons are unlocked, whereas the 2xxx ones aren't? 2680v2 has 10cores but i'd be stuck with 2.8ghz right?

 

[Zyll Goliat]

i'm running the 4930K which is also 130W, and it looks like every i7 cpu for lga2011 is 130W at least.
also, isn't the reason people are going to the 1680v2 is because the 1xxx xeons are unlocked, whereas the 2xxx ones aren't? 2680v2 has 10cores but i'd be stuck with 2.8ghz right?

Yes correct 26xx Xeons are locked tho' with the good mobo maybe you can try BCLK OC and see how that goes...I managed to OC my Xeon 2650 V2 to the 3.405Ghz(113.5bclk)on all cores.......

 

[MisterE]

that seems like a big if from what i've seen, and i'd be going down from 4.5ghz OC to 3.4... even if it's 4 more cores, not worth it to me. seems like from 4930k the 1680v2 would be the only real upgrade

 

[agent_x007]

I would check if uCode for 1680 v2 was present in ASRock BIOS first...

 

[Zyll Goliat]

that seems like a big if from what i've seen, and i'd be going down from 4.5ghz OC to 3.4... even if it's 4 more cores, not worth it to me. seems like from 4930k the 1680v2 would be the only real upgrade

Well...yeah it is a risk for sure in general most of the people can do some bclk OC(101-105) some of them can reach up to the 113/bus speed and few can go even higher....If you do mostly gaming your OC 4930k is still more then good CPU that can handle easily even the most powerful GPU's but If you doing other heavy tasking things beside gaming then more cores even if they are a bit slower can be really beneficial.......

 

[Caring1]

I've been a (happy) X79 user since, I believe, 2012 with the 3820, which I upgraded to a 4930k about four years ago. Still love this platform. Decided to step up again with a 1680 v2 after discovering this whole thing recently (from this and other threads talking about this Xeon), and wanted to join the club. Bought a used one off 'the bay' and dropped it in, but no joy. Nothing comes on. Well, the CPU and case fans come on, but nothing shows up on my screen. The graphics card (GTX 970) fans spin up but go back off when I power on, so I guess it's maaaaybe possible the thing is booting but just the graphics card isn't coming on so I don't see anything? Really doubting that's the case, though and I'm not aware of a simple way to check...

Those symptoms are somewhat typical of RAM being incompatible, given you have tried clearing the CMOS the next step would be try one stick of Ram at a time, or a different brand..

 

[MisterE]

Those symptoms are somewhat typical of RAM being incompatible, given you have tried learing the CMOS the next step would be try one stick of Ram at a time, or a different brand..

hmm geez, wish i would have thought to try putting my older samsung ram back in while i still had the 1680. but i would think the patriot ram i recently bought would be fine, and it does work with my 4930k

to be specific i went from 4x4gb samsung to 4x8gb patriot viper a couple of months back. 1680 should be able to handle 32gb of ram shouldnt it?

I would check if uCode for 1680 v2 was present in ASRock BIOS first...

i'd probably have to email asrock for that? like i said 1680 isn't listed as supported by them but i have seen some people say they had success with it on other boards in the extreme line which also don't have it listed.

 

[agent_x007]

Nope. ASRock probably won't answer it since product is EOL.
Ask here instead : https://www.win-raid.com/f16-BIOS-Modding-Guides-and-Problems.html
Maybe someone can help you mod it.

 

[Kanan]

does anyone have experience getting a 1680 v2 running on any of the Asrock X79 Extreme boards? i had to send the 1680 i bought back since i couldn't get it working on my extreme4-m, but i have no idea if it was something with my setup, or if it was the chip itself (which seems unlikely to me).

the chip is not officially supported by Asrock for that board, on their list of CPUs, but i have seen at least one person elsewhere online saying they got it working on an Extreme board (can't remember the number). i should *think* it would work in any lga 2011 board?

It is most likely that it is not supported, seeing all your posts here and the obvious fact aside. It is also likely that the one guy you found having it working is either a) talking shit or b) (unlikely) using a modified self made bios. Yes it is possible to get anything running as far as technically compatible when using a modified bios.

As for best CPUs after that one: 4960X, 3960X, 4930K, 3930K in that order. The X CPUs are better binned, which increases likelihood of a good OC and have 3 MB more cache, and usually better Ram controllers. Do not buy a low clocking 8-12 core server CPU, those are not good for every day usage or gaming and never will be in the lifetime of the system.

If you are using a GPU of 1080 Ti or faster, consider a new system, none of those CPUs are fast enough to support it in a high demanding game which also needs CPU grunt itself, like BF5. The amount of games being too much for these CPUs will only get more and rapidly so in the near future. That is, if you don't want 30%+ of your GPU wasted.

 

[Pugheaven]

Just noticed this, it's like a blast from the past so thought I'd post... I'm running the following:

Processor: Intel E5-Xeon 1680 V2 8 Core/16 Thread @4605MHz Ivy Bridge (1.350v) EP/EX
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 TUF Gaming
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 5700XT 50th Anniversary 8GB @2200/1800MHz (1.200mv)
RAM: 64GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866mhz Quad Channel (3732mhz) @9-10-9-28-1T
PSU: Leadex Super Flower 1600W GOLD 90+
SSD & Storage:

• 1 x Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 (3,500MB/s Read & Write, Windows OS/Applications)
• 1 x Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 (3,500MB/s Read & Write, Games Drive)
• 2 x Samsung 840 Evo Pro SSD in RAID0 (Clone of main Windows OS/Application Drive)
• 1 x 10TB Seagate Barracuda Pro, 7,200RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)
• 1 x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM001, 5,900RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)

Chassis: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic (White)
Sleeved PSU Cables: Shakmods Premium sleeved cables (White).

• 1 x 24 Pin E-ATX Power Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x 8 Pin CPU Power 12v Extension Cable (White)
• 2 x 8 Pin PCIE Power Extension Cable (White)
• 2 x 6 Pin PCIE Power Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x Motherboard Pin (USB etc) Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x SATA Extension Cable (White)

Water In-line Temperature Sensor: Barrow Black Digital OLED Display Thermometer - A66
Chassis & Radiator Fans: 7 x AIGO Aurora C5 120mm RGB fans
Water Pump: Barrow Water-cooling DDC Pump, PWM Combination Pumps, LRC 2.0 RGB
Water Reservoir: Barrow Waterway LRC 2.0 RGB Panel (Front) Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic
CPU Waterblock: Barrow CPU Water Block use for Intel X99 X299 Socket LGA2011 2066 Acrylic AURA RGB Light Copper Radiator Block (LTYK3X-04-V2)
GPU Waterblock: Eisblock Aurora Plexi GPX-A AMD Radeon RX 5700/5700XT Water Block
Waterloop Coolant: 3 x EK-Cryo Fuel Clear 1L Premix Water-cooling Fluid
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 5 x OD14mm rigid compression level adjuster fittings (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 14 x OD14mm rigid compression fittings (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 11 x Rotary 90 Degree OD14mm Tube Compression Fitting (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow T Virus Spiral Suspension tank LRC 2.0 RGB (black end with white virus) NOT USED YET
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 14mm mini sealing ball valve with tap (white)
Rigid Fittings: 2 x Barrow 14mm “time” series manual tightening lock sealing plug
Rigid Fittings: Barrow LRC 2.0 RGB Flow Indicator
Hard Water Tubes: Barrow 10 x OD14mm PETG 500mm clear rigid tubes
Radiators: 1 x 360mm, 2 x 240mm Radiators (White)
Chassis RGB Controller: Barrow 16 x Way MOLEX Power 5/12v LRC 2.0 RGB Controller with Remote
Fan RGB Controller: AIGO Aurora 10 x Way SATA Power 5/12v LRC 2.0 RGB Controller with Remote
Chassis & Motherboard Screws: 10 x M3 Aluminium Computer PC Case Fully Threaded Knurled Thumb Screws Bolts (Black)

Anyone wanna see my 1st rig, it's here...

Have to say I've got two X79 Sabertooth rigs, the other one is:

Processor: Intel i7-Intel 3970x Extreme 6 Core/12 Thread @4630MHz Ivy Bridge (1.390v)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 TUF Gaming
Graphics Card: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX570 8GB @1410/1750MHz
RAM: 64GB GEIL CORSA EVO DDR3 1600mhz Quad Channel (3200mhz) @10-10-10-28-1T
PSU: Leadex Super Flower 1200W GOLD 90+
SSD & Storage:

• 2 x Intel SSD in RAID0 (1,000MB/s – 500MB/s Read & Write, Windows OS/Applications)
• 1 x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM001, 5,900RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)

both are running fantastic and I can benchmark the 1680V2 at 4735mhz but having to go into that "not so sure" 1.4v plus region has me twitchy as I want this to last another 5 years..., but I don't like running it 24/7 at that speed... long rtule X79, been running these for 8 years since release date and never missed a beat.

Can't wait until BIG NAVI comes and that will be slapped in here, but running all my games at 4k, BF5 running 80-110fps at 4k depending what's going on nice and sweet! Never seen any frames drop to below 80 though... both of these are FOLDING@HOME 24/7 on the GPU's


And this is my second rig...

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Just noticed this, it's like a blast from the past so thought I'd post... I'm running the following:

Processor: Intel E5-Xeon 1680 V2 8 Core/16 Thread @4605MHz Ivy Bridge (1.350v) EP/EX
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 TUF Gaming
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 5700XT 50th Anniversary 8GB @2200/1800MHz (1.200mv)
RAM: 64GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866mhz Quad Channel (3732mhz) @9-10-9-28-1T
PSU: Leadex Super Flower 1600W GOLD 90+
SSD & Storage:

• 1 x Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 (3,500MB/s Read & Write, Windows OS/Applications)
• 1 x Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 (3,500MB/s Read & Write, Games Drive)
• 2 x Samsung 840 Evo Pro SSD in RAID0 (Clone of main Windows OS/Application Drive)
• 1 x 10TB Seagate Barracuda Pro, 7,200RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)
• 1 x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM001, 5,900RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)

Chassis: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic (White)
Sleeved PSU Cables: Shakmods Premium sleeved cables (White).

• 1 x 24 Pin E-ATX Power Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x 8 Pin CPU Power 12v Extension Cable (White)
• 2 x 8 Pin PCIE Power Extension Cable (White)
• 2 x 6 Pin PCIE Power Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x Motherboard Pin (USB etc) Extension Cable (White)
• 1 x SATA Extension Cable (White)

Water In-line Temperature Sensor: Barrow Black Digital OLED Display Thermometer - A66
Chassis & Radiator Fans: 7 x AIGO Aurora C5 120mm RGB fans
Water Pump: Barrow Water-cooling DDC Pump, PWM Combination Pumps, LRC 2.0 RGB
Water Reservoir: Barrow Waterway LRC 2.0 RGB Panel (Front) Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic
CPU Waterblock: Barrow CPU Water Block use for Intel X99 X299 Socket LGA2011 2066 Acrylic AURA RGB Light Copper Radiator Block (LTYK3X-04-V2)
GPU Waterblock: Eisblock Aurora Plexi GPX-A AMD Radeon RX 5700/5700XT Water Block
Waterloop Coolant: 3 x EK-Cryo Fuel Clear 1L Premix Water-cooling Fluid
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 5 x OD14mm rigid compression level adjuster fittings (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 14 x OD14mm rigid compression fittings (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 11 x Rotary 90 Degree OD14mm Tube Compression Fitting (White)
Rigid Fittings: Barrow T Virus Spiral Suspension tank LRC 2.0 RGB (black end with white virus) NOT USED YET
Rigid Fittings: Barrow 14mm mini sealing ball valve with tap (white)
Rigid Fittings: 2 x Barrow 14mm “time” series manual tightening lock sealing plug
Rigid Fittings: Barrow LRC 2.0 RGB Flow Indicator
Hard Water Tubes: Barrow 10 x OD14mm PETG 500mm clear rigid tubes
Radiators: 1 x 360mm, 2 x 240mm Radiators (White)
Chassis RGB Controller: Barrow 16 x Way MOLEX Power 5/12v LRC 2.0 RGB Controller with Remote
Fan RGB Controller: AIGO Aurora 10 x Way SATA Power 5/12v LRC 2.0 RGB Controller with Remote
Chassis & Motherboard Screws: 10 x M3 Aluminium Computer PC Case Fully Threaded Knurled Thumb Screws Bolts (Black)



Have to say I've got two X79 Sabertooth rigs, the other one is:

Processor: Intel i7-Intel 3970x Extreme 6 Core/12 Thread @4630MHz Ivy Bridge (1.390v)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 TUF Gaming
Graphics Card: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX570 8GB @1410/1750MHz
RAM: 64GB GEIL CORSA EVO DDR3 1600mhz Quad Channel (3200mhz) @10-10-10-28-1T
PSU: Leadex Super Flower 1200W GOLD 90+
SSD & Storage:

• 2 x Intel SSD in RAID0 (1,000MB/s – 500MB/s Read & Write, Windows OS/Applications)
• 1 x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM001, 5,900RPM HDD (Backup Drive with downloads and archiving)

both are running fantastic and I can benchmark the 1680V2 at 4735mhz but having to go into that "not so sure" 1.4v plus region has me twitchy as I want this to last another 5 years..., but I don't like running it 24/7 at that speed... long rtule X79, been running these for 8 years since release date and never missed a beat.

Can't wait until BIG NAVI comes and that will be slapped in here, but running all my games at 4k, BF5 running 80-110fps at 4k depending what's going on nice and sweet! Never seen any frames drop to below 80 though... both of these are FOLDING@HOME 24/7 on the GPU's

Anyone wanna see my 1st rig, it's here...

And this is my second rig...

Welcome to the forum!!!Pls. feel free to post some of your benchmarking results.........

 

[Pugheaven]

Cheers man, yeah enjoyed reading alot fo this thread came across it by chance and will be keeping tabs, love my old X79 stuff mixed with new tech and as you fancy some benchmarks, yeah I've got some...

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/12505196

Couldn't quite get to number 1 there... but did get the No.1 spot here...

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22888172



Sabrent NMVe is rapid on PCIE3.0... never mind 4.0 if we had it...

This is my quicket benchmark on CPUZ

 

[phill]

I got my present/last 1680 for around 200 bucks US dollars so I'll keep an eye out for you unless something's changed it shouldn't be all that much dough.

Thank you @dalekdukesboy !! Many apologies about not replying, I lost the notification and then spent 20 minutes searching through the Xeon thread to come to the conclusion, it was in this one!! Such a donut...

If you do find any please do let me know

 

[steen]

I got my present/last 1680 for around 200 bucks US dollars so I'll keep an eye out for you unless something's changed it shouldn't be all that much dough.

That's the problem. I got a newer CPU/MB/RAM for not much more...

i'd probably have to email asrock for that? like i said 1680 isn't listed as supported by them but i have seen some people say they had success with it on other boards in the extreme line which also don't have it listed.

As per @agent_x007 or just get UBU & grab the ucode from a supported Asrock board if you don't want to edit the table yourself.

Have to say I've got two X79 Sabertooth rigs

Very cool. Nice clocks on the 1680v2. I've modded both my P9X79 Deluxe for NVMe but only have a pleb 3820 & no PCIEx4 M.2 NVMe...

Processor: Intel i7-Intel 3970x Extreme 6 Core/12 Thread @4630MHz Ivy Bridge (1.390v)

That's an SNB-E.

I'm going to avoid this thread from now on. I almost broke down & ordered some IVB-EPs...

 

[Pugheaven]

Good spot, I'd copied from the 1680v2 and forgot to amend lol, can't amend it now, but will update my word document hahaha.

 

[mouacyk]

The price of these have really dropped since I got mine. Good deal for anyone hanging onto an X79 board. Quad-channel DDR3 and tons of PCI-e lanes along with IPC that competes with Ryzen refresh.

 

[Aquinus]

with IPC that competes with Ryzen refresh.

I wouldn't call that a completely accurate statement. Phoronix a while ago did a comparison of the 3960x to various other more modern 6c/12t parts and what you'll find is that the newer chips have a very significant advantage where even an overclock of 5Ghz on all cores still can't make up the difference. If these results are at stock, the 3960x would need to over double it clock speed to make up the difference for a stock 2600X, 3600X, or a 8700k.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sandy-extreme-2019&num=1

 

[agent_x007]

Making frequency 1/3 higher than stock isn't that big of a deal (assuming AIO cooling, going from 3,6GHz stock all-core boost to 4,8GHz all-turbo is possible on SB-E).
Also, no info on what memory was used on that DX79SI board (16GB of whatever I guess so... 1333MHz CL9 ?).

 

[Aquinus]

Making frequency 1/3 higher than stock isn't that big of a deal (assuming AIO cooling, going from 3,6GHz stock all-core boost to 4,8GHz all-turbo is possible on SB-E).
Also, no info on what memory was used on that DX79SI board (16GB of whatever I guess so... 1333MHz CL9 ?).

I'm not as concerned about memory speed considering the difference between 1600 and 2400 on my 3930k is negligible. Quad-channel configurations more than makes up for it with only 6 cores.

 

[agent_x007]

They didin't wrote if it was using Quad Channel, only "16GB" amount can be seen in config table.

 

[mouacyk]

I wouldn't call that a completely accurate statement. Phoronix a while ago did a comparison of the 3960x to various other more modern 6c/12t parts and what you'll find is that the newer chips have a very significant advantage where even an overclock of 5Ghz on all cores still can't make up the difference. If these results are at stock, the 3960x would need to over double it clock speed to make up the difference for a stock 2600X, 3600X, or a 8700k.
View attachment 162504
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sandy-extreme-2019&num=1

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X vs Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2

 

[Aquinus]

They didin't wrote if it was using Quad Channel, only "16GB" amount can be seen in config table.

Most reviewers tend to use all of the channels of a CPU while reviewing if not otherwise stated. Either way, I actually did testing with my 3820 with 1, 2, 3 and 4 channels and everything past 2 made very little difference. If you doubt the source (which I think would be foolish given his credibility when it comes to Linux news and reviews,) then you could always go on the Phoronix forums and ask Michael.

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X vs Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2

I like sources that breakdown all of the numbers and consist of a lot of different benchmarks, not results for multiple users provided by a single application.
https://openbenchmarking.org/result...l=y&obr_sor=y&obr_rro=y&obr_hgv=Core+i7+3960X

For example, if you just look at zstd compression, the 3960x doesn't look too bad, but that's not the trend for almost every other one.

 

[mouacyk]

Most reviewers tend to use all of the channels of a CPU while reviewing if not otherwise stated. Either way, I actually did testing with my 3820 with 1, 2, 3 and 4 channels and everything past 2 made very little difference. If you doubt the source (which I think would be foolish given his credibility when it comes to Linux news and reviews,) then you could always go on the Phoronix forums and ask Michael.

I like sources that breakdown all of the numbers and consist of a lot of different benchmarks, not results for multiple users provided by a single application.
https://openbenchmarking.org/result...l=y&obr_sor=y&obr_rro=y&obr_hgv=Core+i7+3960X

For example, if you just look at zstd compression, the 3960x doesn't look too bad, but that's not the trend for almost every other one.

A problem with too many non-standard benchmarks is they could be optimized for any arch (intentionally or not.) Common benchmarks tend to be more transparent with general performance. Here found my Passmark 9 results for E5-1680V2 at 4.65GHz: 19557 vs 17607 of the Ryzen 2700X.

PassMark - AMD Ryzen 7 2700X - Price performance comparison

The benchmarks you reference from Phoronix do not reveal the full potential of these Xeon chips, as everyone in this thread is already well aware. The chips nominally perform at 4.5-4.6GHz, which needs an overclock to match free boost clocks of the Ryzen refresh CPUs. I don't compare with Ryzen 2, because there's a drastic change in strategy with those to increase cache and pull away (not a bad thing, but it does add cost).