Cancelling your GPU Pre-orders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deleted member 193596]

I’m living in the Netherlands and using Amazon.de ... never found one available ( well I found a couple at 999€ and 1200€... that’s beyond ridiculous).
You must have a special Amazon treatment

the 700/800€ with delivery in 7 days are a joke (for both the price and the fake availability). A 3070 should costs no more than 600/650€

i paid 579€ for the 3070

 

[Super XP]

I think Nvidia deliberately withheld RTX 3000 series cards from retailers due to preventing a major backlash, this was all dependant of how well AMDs Radeon 6000 performs.
How many people would be upset that RDNA2 is faster and costs less.

 

[Max(IT)]

i paid 579€ for the 3070

lucky you

 

[GamerGuy]

I've heard that some in my neck of the woods are able to land the RTX3070, while price gouging for the RTX3080 is subsiding somewhat, the price of the RTX3090 have certainly come down from lofty heights to some extend. Except for diehard nVidia fanboys, I think many have stopped trying to get a RTX3080 simply due to lack of availability. Also not discounting the splash AMD had made with their announcement of the RX6800 series and their imminent release on the 18th.

 

[Drone69]

Amazon are price gouging as well. There`s a Zotac 3080 for £1389.00. There`s a Asus 3070 for £960.00 as well. There were other 3070s for over £900 as well.

I did get a Pallit 3070 for $550.00 to play with though.

 

[sepheronx]

Amazon are price gouging as well. There`s a Zotac 3080 for £1389.00. There`s a Asus 3070 for £960.00 as well. There were other 3070s for over £900 as well.

I did get a Pallit 3070 for $550.00 to play with though.

Yeah, here too in Canada.

Funny, one of the Amazon stores selling RTX 3070 for $1700 cad is called "sorry for scalping store"

 

[tabascosauz]

Yeah, here too in Canada.

Funny, one of the Amazon stores selling RTX 3070 for $1700 cad is called "sorry for scalping store"

I'm glad I have all the GPU power I need.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think many have stopped trying to get a RTX3080 simply due to lack of availability.

Only people who have no patience.

Oh Tigerdirect... weren't they connected with CompUSA?

They bought CompUSA after the shutdown.

 

[xrobwx71]

I'll tell you why buddy, because years ago you could buy two cheaper cards, one when they released and the next when you could afford it and sli them to get high end performance. The drivers dont offer this much for games any more unless specifically optimised. 3DMark on the other hand will always get a profile while the technology still exists(in whatever state).

Thanks, man, makes sense. I currently have 2 GTX 1080's that are still running current games nicely. It buys time and saves money is my reason. Then, at somewhere in the "price downturn curve", I can sell them and upgrade and still be in the black money wise.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I can sell them and upgrade and still be in the black money wise.

Doubtful. Used card prices have dropped like a stone lately.

 

[R-T-B]

Doubtful. Used card prices have dropped like a stone lately.

Is this a recent thing? I saw them on the rise not but a month or so ago.

 

[purplekaycee]

You could buy a three bedroom house for the price of top-end GPUs where I live, probably with a garage thrown in.

Where is that

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Doubtful. Used card prices have dropped like a stone lately.

Lol where i live people still think they can get £500 for a 2080, in their dreams with the new stuff out.

 

[xrobwx71]

Doubtful. Used card prices have dropped like a stone lately.

It fluctuates, but I do see they have dropped, especially on Ebay. I guess I shouldn't have used the wording "in the black". What I should have said was, I can more than likely sell the 2 1080's and pay for a 3080 with that $ and not have to kick in much.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is this a recent thing? I saw them on the rise not but a month or so ago.

Yeah, last few weeks used card prices on ebay have started to drop. CraigsList is even better.

It fluctuates, but I do see they have dropped, especially on Ebay. I guess I shouldn't have used the wording "in the black". What I should have said was, I can more than likely sell the 2 1080's and pay for a 3080 with that $ and not have to kick in much.

That's fair. I did that with my 2080. Bought it and sold my 1080 for a decent amount. Granted, I still had to fork out a few hundred for the difference, but it was all good in the end.

 

[Undertoker]

Only an asshole scalps - it’s that simple

 

[Amite]

I have a theory how you can tell how many 3080s and 90s are hiting the US market. Just go on Ebay and look at the number of 2080 ti are being sold - not alot - plus given the times alot of those may be for Christmas money.
I guess the Minners in China are paying a premium and who knows what other pressure is being applyed.
Just gave up my Vega for a Ebay 2080ti
PS Don't forget the sales tax they collect even when an individule is selling - - got a little 10% suprise on my pay pal

 

[Rei]

I have a theory how you can tell how many 3080s and 90s are hiting the US market. Just go on Ebay and look at the number of 2080 ti are being sold - not alot - plus given the times alot of those may be for Christmas money.
I guess the Minners in China are paying a premium and who knows what other pressure is being applyed.
Just gave up my Vega for a Ebay 2080ti

As long as you're not paying over the MSRP or just the average current retail price, then it's all good.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I have a theory how you can tell how many 3080s and 90s are hiting the US market. Just go on Ebay and look at the number of 2080 ti are being sold - not alot - plus given the times alot of those may be for Christmas money.
I guess the Minners in China are paying a premium and who knows what other pressure is being applyed.
Just gave up my Vega for a Ebay 2080ti
PS Don't forget the sales tax they collect even when an individule is selling - - got a little 10% suprise on my pay pal

It's very easy right now to find a prebuilt / OEM system with a 3070 / 3080 or 3090.

Seems the DIY market is the one filled with scalpers.

Right now for example, you can order a minimum spec Dell Alienware with a 3080. That's a 10700F with water cooling, 1000W PSU, rest all min specs, $1969 total.

3080 GPU alone on Amazon costs ~$1600-$1700 from what I see.

So that's like, $270 to $370 difference between the card and an entire system.

I think the scalpers are about done. OEMS are selling entire rigs with these cards for not much more than than the scalpers want, tends to suggest supply is there and the scalpers are running out of time.

 

[Rei]

3080 GPU alone on Amazon costs ~$1600-$1700 from what I see.

WTF?!? RTX 3080 for $1600+?!?!? That is way above the RTX 3090 MSRP. Pretty sure those are scalper's product.

 

[RandallFlagg]

WTF?!? RTX 3080 for $1600+?!?!? That is way above the RTX 3090 MSRP. Pretty sure those are scalper's product.

Yeah but it's what I see on Amazon right now for those in stock.

I am starting to see some 3070s coming down to just under $800 on ebay, its Nvidia advertised cost is $499 I believe though most of the board makers MSRP are a little bit higher (like $529 or $549). The cheapest one I see is $788 atm. A week or so ago I think it was more like $1000.

Anyway I want to hold out for the 3060 Ti and see what that brings. Supposedly $349 MSRP.

 

[sepheronx]

I can already see how some stores (memoryexpress) here in Canada are saying there will be not a single release of the AIB RX 6800's at their store as they have no stock coming in.

Newegg is showing the RX 6800 about as much as a 6800XT would be going for in CAD prices if you do the currency exchange calculations. But they are "sold out" because they havent released yet.

I dont think I will be getting a RX 6800 tomorrow either. Guess I will have to wait till next year. I think that will be par for the course for everyone everywhere.

 

[Toothless]

It's very easy right now to find a prebuilt / OEM system with a 3070 / 3080 or 3090.

Seems the DIY market is the one filled with scalpers.

Right now for example, you can order a minimum spec Dell Alienware with a 3080. That's a 10700F with water cooling, 1000W PSU, rest all min specs, $1969 total.

3080 GPU alone on Amazon costs ~$1600-$1700 from what I see.

So that's like, $270 to $370 difference between the card and an entire system.

I think the scalpers are about done. OEMS are selling entire rigs with these cards for not much more than than the scalpers want, tends to suggest supply is there and the scalpers are running out of time.

You do know scalpers can hit Amazon too right? Supply and demand changes pricing and going by history AIBs are 50-200 above MSRP. Not doubling in price.

If you can find me a 10700 combo for 300 bucks I'll take it.

 

[Drone69]

On the Asus Amazon UK store they have the 3080 for $1700.00. They have the 3090 for £2720.00.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/pag...5fad-9fbc-4187-8404-f45d85370e95&ref_=ast_bln

 

[RandallFlagg]

You do know scalpers can hit Amazon too right? Supply and demand changes pricing and going by history AIBs are 50-200 above MSRP. Not doubling in price.

If you can find me a 10700 combo for 300 bucks I'll take it.

Yeah, I know Amazon, NewEgg, WalMart, and many others allow 3rd party sales. I usually filter that garbage out, tons of scams not just limited to GPUs. It's something that really got going in the last 3 years and I absolutely hate it. My wife got taken ordering freakin covid masks from China (she didn't look) when TSHTF. They've all basically become a lot like Ebay in many ways.

So the $200-$300 is the cost of an OEM rig with the 3070 or 3080 vs scalpers wanting $1500+ for say a 3080 right now.

That said my point was, if someone is going to buy from a scalper they are better off buying an OEM rig like the one below. You can put your old card in it and flip it, and it looks to me on ebay like people are doing exactly that. They are selling for $1300 - $1700 with a 2060 in them. But that's all a big PITA.

I was contemplating doing this b/c my stepson (he's 30) was asking for a gaming PC for christmas, so I had an excuse. He would get a lot better rig than I would normally get him and I'd get a 3080 or 3070. At least that's what I was going to tell myself

Unfortunately he switched to asking for a cell phone as his is malfunctioning

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