PC Replacement advice

[phanbuey]

Again, hell no. Walmart's poor excuse for PCs are laughable. We want to helpful to the OP, not make their life more difficult.

Again, that's not Walmart's PC - Walmart is getting them because the SI's are dumping them off... same with B&H, etc.

 

[mouacyk]

@scrizo Play around with some of these preconfigured builds. You may have to remove things you already have and add things you still need:
Completed Builds - PCPartPicker

 

[XL-R8R]

Again, hell no. Walmart's poor excuse for PCs are laughable. We want to helpful to the OP, not make their life more difficult.

I'll repost this here again as I think your post is a little jaded or misinformed(both?):

It's got better cable management than half of hobbyists can personally manage.. and it comes backed by a 1 year warranty on the entire rig, which no home-builder can provide either.... for less than youd pay for the sum of its components if you sourced them separately..... whats not to like??


Solid deal.

 

[xrror]

So there is merit in going the pre-built route because that's about the ONLY way you're going to be able to get a decent GPU that's not horribly overinflated in price. Ideally you also could leverage prebuilt to get an unobtanium Ryzen 5xxx series too....

EXCEPT ... okay the cheapest cyperpower build i can find with a Ryzen 5600x is still like $1400 and that only comes with a Radeon 5500XT. Now the one with 5800X and RTX 3080 hell yea... except that's $2400 (RIPPPP)

oops forgot link: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/page/AMD/Ryzen-5000/

 

[phanbuey]

So there is merit in going the pre-built route because that's about the ONLY way you're going to be able to get a decent GPU that's not horribly overinflated in price. Ideally you also could leverage prebuilt to get an unobtanium Ryzen 5xxx series too....

EXCEPT ... okay the cheapest cyperpower build i can find with a Ryzen 5600x is still like $1400 and that only comes with a Radeon 5500XT. Now the one with 5800X and RTX 3080 hell yea... except that's $2400 (RIPPPP)

oops forgot link: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/page/AMD/Ryzen-5000/

Exactly - that deal is a 3700X! with a 2060 - nice and smooth for 1080P gaming, and it hasDLSS in case you want to play something juicy like cyberpunk at above slideshow levels even with RT off. Unless you're going with used parts it's really hard to build right now.

 

[xrror]

whats not to like??

Finding a bios update to support Ryzen 5xxx on the OEM mobo used. (probably not too much a concern).
Discovering that they still make DDR4 memory slower than 3000. (memory speed not listed).
Realizing that it's a 2060.... non Super. (yea it's faster than a 970 but... errr )

 

[phanbuey]

Finding a bios update to support Ryzen 5xxx on the OEM mobo used. (probably not too much a concern).
Discovering that they still make DDR4 memory slower than 3000. (memory speed not listed).
Realizing that it's a 2060.... non Super. (yea it's faster than a 970 but... errr )

It's an Asrock mobo*? - SI's (cyberpower) use off the shelf parts, that's not a walmart PC - also 2060 faster than the 1660ti/1070ti and on par with 1080 when overclocked.

The budget is 700-1000 for a completely new rig... It's alot of unlocked/non-oem computer for the money. You could do better with secondhand parts and building yourself, but not a whole lot better considering time / hassle.

Quick back of the napkin for budget parts if buying new:
Just the parts new right now with the shortage price spikes..
3700x (chip) - $329
2060 ~ $350 to $380
Ram* ~ $80
Mobo* ~ $90
SSD *~ $90
HDD* ~ $50
PSU* ~ $65
~ $964 at low end if keeping old case

Optional:
Case ~ $65
Windows ~$15 graymarket
~ $1044 pre-tax

You could build rig yourself and get a used 3600/3600x and a used 5700xt for a stronger gaming balance now, but having a stronger processor now may allow you to just upgrade the GPU next go around without issues. In any case unless you get your hands on nice used gear it's tough to update right now without overpaying.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah I looked at prices and holy robbery its just as bad as a Ps5 price

Worst possible time to buy components now. Wait 2-3 months if you can.

Another option is to look at second hand market, but a similar thing applies here, because the new performance parts are so expensive, the value of older parts is also rather stagnant. Still though, I think there are many Ryzen CPUs in the wild ready to get swapped out and even an earlier gen Zen CPU with 6-8 physical cores is going to be a *massive* upgrade. The RAM is another one of those things you can just be on the prowl for, or might even come as a bundle with a CPU and board.

That leaves the GPU, which in all honesty I would not, just simply not, get into at this time. Since demand is so high, there's too much risk involved in 2nd hand sales now, unless you really know where to look.

 

[xrror]

Yea I mean if you have a gun to your head MUST BUY NOW pre-built IS an option... but waiting might get you a more balanced rig.

I mean the thing is, your old rig despite what everyone might think it's NOT a total potato. As a fellow owner of a 8370 @ 4.7Ghz with a Radeon 290 now I kinda want to get Cyberpunk (can't afford until next month) just to try running it on that.

From the reports once you're in medium GFX it doesn't matter much if you're running it on a 2060 or a 970 or (lol) even an ancient 290.

I guess that's my long long long way of saying - wait until video cards exist again!

LOL now I want to somehow get a hold of a 3080 and throw it in the FX 8370 box and bench cyberpunk just to piss everyone off hahah

 

[lexluthermiester]

Worst possible time to buy components now. Wait 2-3 months if you can.

Good point. The prices on the used market sharply dipped for about a week or so but has currently resurged.

LOL now I want to somehow get a hold of a 3080 and throw it in the FX 8370 box and bench cyberpunk just to piss everyone off hahah

Why would that piss anyone off? I think it'd be interesting. As long as you didn't leave it in there.