When do you plan to get your next PC? And what will it be like?

[Vayra86]

I'm considering a vintage PC, already ordered my cup holder and floppy drive. I will install Windows XP on it and surf the internet without a firewall. Living life on the edge!

Everything else is out of stock

 

[Jetster]

I got some IDE cup holders if you need any

 

[cst1992]

I am continuing in running my 2008 Dell XPS 730x. Still outstanding in playing 90% of my Steam collection. But I needed to replace over time my DELL propiatary PSU, GPU, MOBO and AIO. Many thanks to Ebay. Looking to making a move later this year with Alder Lake. There’s plenty to be excited about as it represents the biggest 'architecture' movement or innovation since the Core architecture in 2006. And with 32 cores and 40 threads. I also welcome the introduction of the all new 10nm SuperFin process, the new LGA 1700 socket and the arrival of DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 support. So there is a lot going on. Planning also in specifying an all (5TB) NVME system as SSD's are getting cheaper by the day. I guess with my trusty XPS 730x having been kept alive since 2008, I can hold my breath easily for another 10-12 months. Just perhaps AMD can step-up to the plate again as well and give Alder Lake it's run for the money? Which is always good for the man on the street and his hard earned cash.

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You'll be set for another 10 years!

 

[Deleted member 193596]

since the near future only brings us new Platforms with stuff like DDR5 (which will be hella expensive and the first year might just be low speed high timings stuff) i'll wait a few years from now on (normally i am the one who buys a lot of hardware (including two 3080s and a 3090)
but this time i'll try to keep my 5900x and 3090 gaming x trio for as long as possible (maybe 4-5 years?)

 

[Grings]

I planned to pick up a new graphics card over xmas, and make do with the rest of my pc (i7 6700k) for another year or so, i even set some money aside, expecting to pay £650-700 for a 3080...

Yeah. that didnt happen.

I decided its going to be that long until we see decent stock of Gpu's, i will get the rest of the computer out of the way, as i was a bit dubious of struggling along on 4 cores anyway.

Got a 5800x, MSI x570 Tomahawk,1tb Adata sx8200pro and some cheap temporary 3600mhz ram. First AMD (In my main gaming PC) since Socket 939.

 

[Tom Sunday]

You'll be set for another 10 years!

My 2008 Dell XPS 730x is like my girlfriend. She keeps me coming back for more. She is like a 'Gaming PC' extremely high maintenance and expensive. She is a blond and has attributes which become immediately visible by seeing her walk and talk that talk. The first question other men ask me: "Where did you find her?" This was like asking are there more like her and be sure to never give her up? When I first met her she turned my imagination rock hard and I instinctively knew that I was going to be in for ride. When for the first time I laid my eyes on the 730x case I got the same loving feeling. The beautiful forward leaning curve of the case alone evaporated my ongoing hate for Dell's forced proprietary. Perhaps too much blond later this year will usher in "Alder Lake" and bringing about more sense into my already crazy life? Since I already had to replace most of the Dell's marginal hardware in the 730x, perhaps I can squeeze Alder Lake into the case and keep old memories rock hard? Some also call this love?

 

[cst1992]

An update for my plans:

* Good VRMs and all, for peace of mind when overclocking(It's an Asus Z97-A)

Looking for a motherboard with this. My current Z97-A has 8-phase VRM, so similar to that.

* A 7nm Intel CPU with at least 8 cores - 4 cores in my 4690k are not enough in today's world, and Intel has better single-core performance than AMD
* DDR5 RAM support - the Haswell architecture was the last to support DDR3. As a result, I'm unable to get RAM to upgrade my system's memory capacity. I'd like to avoid this.

No longer sure about this, because DDR5 RAM doesn't seem that great. I'm thinking I'd rather go with a R5 5600x. According to benchmarks, games are not making use of more than 6 cores, so performance between a (similarly clocked) R5 5600x and R7 5800x is almost identical. Plus, the 5600x gets great power efficiency, and is faster than almost Intel's entire Comet Lake suite(in gaming).

* A STIM(soldered TIM) processor like the i9-9900K - that'll eliminate the need to delid

A 5600x satisfies this criterion

1. My Samsung 970 Evo Plus SSD.

Looking for a B550 or X570 motherboard, so that it has at least space for this and another(larger) NVMe SSD. 500GB just isn't as big as it once used to be. I have external HDDs for storage, so looking for a drive to hold my Steam games.
How's the B550 Tomahawk from MSI?

2. My 3060Ti. Bottlenecked by the CPU.

The 5600x also seems like a good match for this. I'm thinking if I waited too long to get a new CPU then again it'll be bottlenecked by this card. It's hard to believe, but the card is close to a year old now(bought end of December 2020).

3. A 1080p or 1440p monitor. I haven't felt the need to get a 4K monitor yet - when I built this PC I used my old 1440x900 monitor, and then a 1080p IPS monitor from Dell. Still running well, but in case it dies, I'd want to get a 1440p monitor, but at the moment, nothing bigger.

Still thinking about a 1440p 60+Hz or 1080p 120+Hz monitor. Which would be better?

Unfortunately, the situation today is such that both motherboard and memory is not cheap Especially memory, if I wanted to get a 2x8GB kit or 1x16GB stick to add another later.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

An update for my plans:

Looking for a motherboard with this. My current Z97-A has 8-phase VRM, so similar to that.

No longer sure about this, because DDR5 RAM doesn't seem that great. I'm thinking I'd rather go with a R5 5600x. According to benchmarks, games are not making use of more than 6 cores, so performance between a (similarly clocked) R5 5600x and R7 5800x is almost identical. Plus, the 5600x gets great power efficiency, and is faster than almost Intel's entire Comet Lake suite(in gaming).

A 5600x satisfies this criterion

Looking for a B550 or X570 motherboard, so that it has at least space for this and another(larger) NVMe SSD. 500GB just isn't as big as it once used to be. I have external HDDs for storage, so looking for a drive to hold my Steam games.
How's the B550 Tomahawk from MSI?

The 5600x also seems like a good match for this. I'm thinking if I waited too long to get a new CPU then again it'll be bottlenecked by this card. It's hard to believe, but the card is close to a year old now(bought end of December 2020).

Still thinking about a 1440p 60+Hz or 1080p 120+Hz monitor. Which would be better?

Unfortunately, the situation today is such that both motherboard and memory is not cheap Especially memory, if I wanted to get a 2x8GB kit or 1x16GB stick to add another later.

I currently have a 3600x I was going to upgrade to the 5600x but the difference seems negligible so if I upgrade I'll go bigger but that paired with a msi motherboard I'm extremely happy.
With the Asrock I had seemed to be very plastic'y and I was forever having issues with the USB c port. The msi board was easy to set up and the dragon center software doesn't seem to be completely useless. I picked up 2x8gb sticks of 3600 crucial ballistics the other day so I can use the hyper X I have with the Asrock on a Nas build but other than messing about with my homelab project and a custom loop I can't see me building a new system for maybe 5 years at least till ddr5 has settled and we know who's making the top CPU's with the new generation.

 

[LifeOnMars]

On my next build I'm going to make sure I get a premium board and a high end CPU. If you have those in place (depending on socket life) you can have a build that lasts you longer, can still push newer GPU's as they are released and has longer lasting board support/bios updates. Cheaper boards (not always) tend to be ignored after a certain amount of time and what start as overkill CPU's soon come into their own as technology progresses (looking at you I7 920) and can last you a lot longer than a momentary fad (looking at you G3258)

GPU wise I'm easy either way as long it has good features, good reviews and makes sense price wise.

I'll probably also wait until DDR5 has matured a bit and you start seeing good latencies with good pricing.

 

[cst1992]

we know who's making the top CPU's with the new generation

Zen 3's seem great. Alder Lakes aren't as bad as I'd previously thought but if they consume a lot of power then that's a dealbreaker for me, 'cause:

1. High-end coolers are not cheap here
2. Fan noise
3. Heat
4. I don't like devices that consume a lot of power

and can last you a lot longer than a momentary fad (looking at you G3258)

I'm not going as low as that. I'm looking to spend $250-300 for the CPU. But I heard the G3258 was a great CPU for the Haswell generation, for those who were not looking for a powerhouse gaming CPU.

GPU wise I'm easy either way as long it has good features, good reviews and makes sense price wise.

I already have a GPU(3060Ti) and not going to go looking for another one for atleast the next 4-5 years. This GPU is quite fast.

I'll probably also wait until DDR5 has matured a bit and you start seeing good latencies with good pricing.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Zen 3's seem great. Alder Lakes aren't as bad as I'd previously thought but if they consume a lot of power then that's a dealbreaker for me, 'cause:

1. High-end coolers are not cheap here
2. Fan noise
3. Heat
4. I don't like devices that consume a lot of power


I'm not going as low as that. I'm looking to spend $250-300 for the CPU. But I heard the G3258 was a great CPU for the Haswell generation, for those who were not looking for a powerhouse gaming CPU.

I already have a GPU(3060Ti) and not going to go looking for another one for atleast the next 4-5 years. This GPU is quite fast.

Over the last couple decades I've tended to leap first but when I pre-ordered pile-driver and got that junk over intel I promised myself never to buy a brand new on the market Cpu ever again hence why my newest build has a ryzen 3600. So untill raptorlake has been out for maybe 1 year I won't go near a new build.

 

[LifeOnMars]

@cst1992 I had a G3258 and yes it was great but nowadays I'm looking for longevity. My point being, if you have the funds which I will on my next build I'm gonna aim for something that lasts me a while and can also incorporate just GPU upgrades to prolong its life.

I also have a 3060 Ti currently and yes, very nice GPU

 

[ThaiTaffy]

I'll probably also wait until DDR5 has matured a bit and you start seeing good latencies with good pricing.

I don't understand the latencies on ddr5 I saw this morning one manufacturer advertising cl36 at like 6000mhz

 

[LifeOnMars]

Yeh it always starts off slow with each generation of RAM but it soon starts to get optimised and the latencies come tumbling down.

 

[cst1992]

For me it doesn't look that odd.

For DDR3 it was between 6 and 14.
For DDR4 it was between 12 and 20.
So what's the problem if DDR5 has double the latency and double the frequency? I seriously doubt we're going to see DDR4 level latencies in DDR5.

My 2008 Dell XPS 730x is like my girlfriend. She keeps me coming back for more. She is like a 'Gaming PC' extremely high maintenance and expensive. She is a blond and has attributes which become immediately visible by seeing her walk and talk that talk. The first question other men ask me: "Where did you find her?" This was like asking are there more like her and be sure to never give her up? When I first met her she turned my imagination rock hard and I instinctively knew that I was going to be in for ride. When for the first time I laid my eyes on the 730x case I got the same loving feeling. The beautiful forward leaning curve of the case alone evaporated my ongoing hate for Dell's forced proprietary. Perhaps too much blond later this year will usher in "Alder Lake" and bringing about more sense into my already crazy life? Since I already had to replace most of the Dell's marginal hardware in the 730x, perhaps I can squeeze Alder Lake into the case and keep old memories rock hard? Some also call this love?

Haha, you should have seen me when I first laid eyes on my white 500R case. I was like a 3-year-old girl given a 4-foot soft toy

very nice GPU

For me that is for two reasons:
1. Performance
2. It's a Founder's Edition, so it looks great as is with its new design, and it scratched a 5-year itch for me: when I got my 970 I wanted the FE with the blower-type cooler. I got a Strix instead(also a card I love for its aesthetics, efficiency and performance) so this time when I saw a FE available I just got it.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Like I said I don't understand it I'm having a hard time now looking at ram for my server.

Is this any good? Or do I go

 

[cst1992]

The Samsung, of course. You get the reliability that they offer, plus it's cheaper. It's 10600(1333MHz) rather than 12800(1600MHz) of the Kllisre, but I don't think that makes much of a difference.

(Side note: why is the Samsung so cheap - $16 for an 8GB stick? ECC memory is supposed to be expensive as compared to non-ECC. What am I missing here?)

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Asia the speed is irrelevant as I think my board tops out at 1033

The whole server cost less than my new hdmi cable 2nd hand market here is focused on gaming, servers and homelabs get little love.

Turns out I can only use 4gb sticks so.....

Slightly more expensive per Gb but not to bad

 

[xrobwx71]

I'm contemplating maybe Q1 next year...

• *BASE_PRICE: [+2425]
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• CAS: [LIRIK EDITION] LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Mid-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case w/ USB 3.1 Type-C, Tempered glass on the front & side [+70]
• CC: None
• COOLANT: None
• CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X 3.4GHz [4.9GHz Turbo] 16 Cores/ 32 Threads 72MB Total Cache 105W Processor [+500]
• CS_FAN: 6X 120mm APEVIA 120mm Addressable RGB 1200RPM Fans w/ Hub + Remote Controller [+49]
• ENGRAVING: None
• FAN: Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync Edition high performance CPU waterblock Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate [+128]
• FREEBIE_VC: NVIDIA Guardians of the Galaxy Bundle [+0]
• HDD: 1TB WD BLACK SN850 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7000/5300 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1000/720k [+196] (Single Drive)
• HDD2: None [-33]
• HEADSET: None
• IUSB: Built-in USB Ports (Based on motherboard and case selection)
• KEYBOARD: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
• MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR4/3200MHz Dual Channel Memory [+150] (GSKILL Trident Z RGB [+90])
• MICROPHONE: None
• MONITOR: None
• MOPAD: None
• MOTHERBOARD: ASROCK B550 PG Velocita ATX w/ RGB, 2.5 Gigabit LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [+33]
• MOUSE: CyberPowerPC Lyra 01 RGB 6-Color w/ 7 Button USB wired, 4200DPI Optical Gaming Mouse
• NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
• OS: Windows 11 Pro [+31]
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
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I will add my current 512GB Samsung 980 Pro to the rig to hold my Steam, Epic, Origin game files.

 

[GerKNG]

my next build in the future will be a "best bang 4 buck" build.

with these ridiculous prices in these days it's just not worth it to build anything above the mid tier.
a 3070 costs like 1200 bucks... we are over one year in. these prices will never go back to normal.

maybe a i5 13400F and a 4060 ti.

especially when you look at most of these "AAA" crap games in these days. you pay 3 grand for a 3090 just to run behind the same two fetch quests in New World.. and with every killed enemy there is a 1% that your GPU will die with it.

 

[P4-630]

2022, maybe an i7 12700K with new motherboard and some new ddr4 memory...

I will probably keep using my RTX 2070 Super a little longer, and hope GPU prices are more reasonable in 2023....

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I don't understand the latencies on ddr5 I saw this morning one manufacturer advertising cl36 at like 6000mhz

While DRAM clock speeds have increased over generations, latency-per-clock has held steady. This is due to the nature of DRAM (which I don't understand well enough to explain). The starting point for "fast" RAM is a MT:CL ratio of about 200:1, e.g. DDR-400 CL2, DDR2-800 CL4, DDR3-1600 CL8, DDR4-3200 CL16, and by inference DDR5-6000 CL30. As mentioned above, we don't get those latency numbers at the beginning of a generation. DDR4-2133 ran (and continues to run, because JEDEC) at CL15 out-of-the-box. Thats 142:1; ick. DDR5-6000 CL36 would be 167:1, which isn't great, but not as bad as the first DDR4 sticks.

Spoiler: hiding tall image

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I think my next build will be back to Intel, maybe 12400/600 with some sort of 690 board and DDR4

 

[80-watt Hamster]

So I did end up building a new platform this year, if not an entire PC. I'd been entertaining the idea of doing some livestreaming in support of a convention I staff, so picked up a 9700K + RAM + refurb board this past spring when Microcenter had 9th-gen K chips on fire sale. Everything else carried over, including the RX 470, cuz I refuse to spend 2-3X list on any component on principle. That pushes my next build/upgrade to... heck, who knows. Probably when I get the itch again. Which should still be around 2024.

 

[MBE_77]

I just completed an upgrade: CPU, RAM, motherboard, CPU AIO and a new cooler for my video card. The original PC was built from the ground up in 2017.

• Ryzen 9 5900X (upgraded from Ryzen 7 1700X)
• 32GM 3600 Mhz RAM (upgraded from 16GB 3000 Mhz RAM)
• ASRock X570 Taichi (upgraded from ASRock X370 Taichi - never had a problem with this mobo)
• Arctic Freezer II 240 AIO cooler (upgraded from a tiny Corsair H60 or H60i)
• Added a Raijintek Morpheus II radiator and two 120mm low-profile fans to a Gigabyte Aorus 1080 Ti blower card

Upgrading the computer took much more time than expected (several hours) because of the sheer number of cables that I had to disconnect and then reconnect. I kept my case, the power supply and the hard drives. I also removed the CD/DVD drive, which was no longer working. Those drives seem to have a finite life. I have an external unit.

Surprisingly, I didn't have to reinstall either Manjaro Linux or Windows 10 after the (re)build was completed. The Morphius II cooler has worked phenomenally well. My idle temp is 28C, while it never goes above 60C or so.

Before (Furmark)- with blower cooler

After (Furmark - 98% of test completed) with Raijintek Morpheus II

My first PC build was a 486DX around 1991, while my most recent (last week) was a mini-build with an Intel Core2 Quad 9550S to run a 32-bit OS so I can operate two older slide scanners.